mds wrote: justmoi wrote:
May I remind you again that I never said, or even implied, that Nico's lap wasn't quick?
Unless I recall wrongly, you did say all 'we know' is that Nico's lap was the quickest, but we don't know if it's 'quick'
Saying "we don't know if it's very quick" does not equal "Nico's lap wasn't quick". I said the former, but not the latter. There's a clear difference and if you're not even going to acknowledge that, I don't even know why you are on a forum in the first place.
which you also did say was absolute.
I see no problem with that. 1:50 is slow, 1:10 is insane. Somewhere in there lies a point where a time becomes "quick" and "very quick".
Which is rather a shame for those of us who don't work with any of the F1 teams as even during the season we'll never know who's truly quick... Based on the 'reasons' you gave of course
No need for those quotation marks. I'm conducting in civilized debate, I'm not saying anything out of the ordinary. The chances of Merc, Ferrari and Williams being so close together aren't that great. So prove Merc can't go faster or accept the possibility they have been sandbagging and that time is not per se "very quick" as they could possibly go quite a bit quicker.
Mate you did imply it was not quick. And if you're dancing around that now that is straw arguing as we may or may not know. I mean how do we know it's not the ulimate fastest they can go? See? I said it was very quick based on everything we had seen at these tests, this year. You went on about last year testing and unknown factors few in the world will ever know, even when the season starts, like true limit of an f1 car. Why my original statement is difficult to grasp I'm not sure.
I mean I'm wondering why we're even looking at ANY times then. What's the point if we'll still be in the dark.
Those laps thus far are clearly top of the pile, thus far. And they're both very quick. Which clearly doesn't mean nothing will/can go quicker. How that has morphed into this long uninteresting debate I'm not sure.
You're still asking me to prove unknowns. I could just as well ask you to 'prove' they're not the fastest also. Now see the real danger of straw arguments?
We're all conducting civilised debate. I haven't seen anyone uncivil yet.
And my suspicion is possibly one of the reasons you're on the forum is you like to argue.
I said Nico's lap was very quick. Further to quick there's quicker
. I can't see where I said it was any of the latter. Should be simple really
I'm truly done with this. But not for the first time on this forum I do enjoy reading your posts.