McHonda Oz Retirement Sweepstake

Laura23 · Post by **Laura23** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:13 pm

Genuinely just a bit of fun,

What lap will the last McLaren retire in Melbourne? Fire away.

There's a poll with some options but please leave a comment with a specific lap time!

I will go for lap 15.

AngusWolfe · Post by **AngusWolfe** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:23 pm

One will finish. Just because the odds must be long.

A2jdl · Post by **A2jdl** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:30 pm

Lap 42.

RunningMan · Post by **RunningMan** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:57 pm

They haven't run a stint longer than 13 laps so far in testing with the engine turned out. They've got two weeks to sort out reliability. So I'm going to go with 23 laps.

Maybe they'll just treat the race as a test session. If they have a problem, they'll try fix it and send them out again regardless of how many laps down they end up

GingerFurball · Post by **GingerFurball** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:08 pm

They'll both finish.

Remember after testing last year people were questioning whether 10 cars would finish.

dizlexik · Post by **dizlexik** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:15 pm

Both will finish. They will just turn revs down if engine isn't yet ready.

Exediron · Post by **Exediron** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:17 pm

I think 1 will finish, but it will surprise everyone by how high it finishes.

The other will fail within the opening 3 laps, or possibly on the grid.

CaptainRicky · Post by **CaptainRicky** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:22 pm

One will finish, but a number of laps down. I'll suspect they'll just treat Oz like a test session.

M44 · Post by **M44** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:38 pm

I think one won't even leave the garage due to a sensor issue..

..but I honestly wondered how Oz last year would turn out, and I was pleasantly surprised. I think Honda will at least have sorted it out so it can run a race, albeit on a reduced engine setting.

Maybe by Barcelona we will see the wick turned up? And maybe by Singapore we will see its full-punch?

Realistically though, who knows - ROLL ON AUS!!!!!

Post by **P-F1 Mod** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:47 pm

In a strange twist the Honda engine decides not to blow up, break down or in any other way fail on Saturday. McLaren lock out the front row, Mercedes behind them utterly confused. Nobody else makes 107% but the FIA grants the entire field special dispensation. The lights go out on Sunday, at which point plumes of smoke emanate from the back of both cars. An 18-car pile up is the result [assuming Manor make the grid] and the McLarens pull away steadily. Somehow they complete 3 laps, albeit behind the Safety Car and having to go through the pit lane. One car then stops, leaving the other to finish lap 4 and park as the winner of a half-points 'race'.

Ron Dennis claims superior reliability won his team a famous victory.

What odds can I get on this? Any winnings go into the forum's repair fund.

Lt. Drebin · Post by **Lt. Drebin** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:53 pm

On lap 24, with one lap down due to time already spent in pitbox.

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:56 pm

Can't see the point of running the engine at 80%, Honda want to win long term so I think that they will run it till it breaks ! Just another test day, so 30+ laps In P1

dizlexik · Post by **dizlexik** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:41 pm

Option or Prime wrote:Can't see the point of running the engine at 80%, Honda want to win long term so I think that they will run it till it breaks ! Just another test day, so 30+ laps In P1

Honda did thst during testing. Keep in mind that they can use only 4 PUs this season. Honda will rather gradually turn up the revs rather than blow one PU after another.

slide · Post by **slide** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:41 pm

they should be much further up the road , ....I can see some long face's in the McLaren garage , and when Alonso wears a long face , its long enough to go all the way round , particulary as the Ferrari looks half decent ,but its early days yet , we'll get a clearer picture by a couple of race's in

wolfticket · Post by **wolfticket** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:49 pm

Both will finish. Both will be in the top 8.

slide · Post by **slide** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:11 pm

ericb is now saying McLaren won't be competitive for several months !

Laura23 · Post by **Laura23** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:13 pm

slide wrote:ericb is now saying McLaren won't be competitive for several months !

He said Spain. Which is in May. Which is in two months. Not several.

AngusWolfe · Post by **AngusWolfe** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:14 pm

slide wrote:ericb is now saying McLaren won't be competitive for several months !

That exclamation point makes you sound surprised.

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:14 pm

One will fail on formation lap.

j man · Post by **j man** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:18 pm

We are all saying this about Red Bull this time last year and they had things sorted by the first race. I think McLaren will get at least one car to the finish.

Laura23 · Post by **Laura23** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:46 pm

j man wrote:We are all saying this about Red Bull this time last year and they had things sorted by the first race. I think McLaren will get at least one car to the finish.

Renault engines had done a heck of a lot more running than the Honda has by the time the final test day rolled round.

nixxxon · Post by **nixxxon** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:02 pm

slide wrote:ericb is now saying McLaren won't be competitive for several months !

Not exactly. He said that in Europe they will be MORE competitive than in the first races.
Inaccurate headline in PF1

RunningMan · Post by **RunningMan** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:03 pm

slide wrote:ericb is now saying McLaren won't be competitive for several months !

These cars are so complex that they minor problems they've been having have had a serious effect on their track time. They've had oil leaks, water leaks and seal failures. Not catastrophic failures as some try to make them out to be, just small nuisances that limit track time, which limits the amount of time they can spend learning about the chassis. McLaren and Honda will get on top of these issues, it's only a matter of time

mds · Post by **mds** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:25 pm

Laura23 wrote:
j man wrote:We are all saying this about Red Bull this time last year and they had things sorted by the first race. I think McLaren will get at least one car to the finish.
Renault engines had done a heck of a lot more running than the Honda has by the time the final test day rolled round.

Yes. Renault had got the PU running halfway decent in Bahrain testing. RBR didn't get to run a full race distance but that was because of the packaging in the RB10. They knew what to fix but they hadn't had the time to do it in Bahrain.

Still I think one car will reach the finish. Not saying that will be full distance - I think the Mercs might lap them.

rife_hypocricy · Post by **rife_hypocricy** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:41 pm

one will finish, Kev Mag on the podium

Exediron · Post by **Exediron** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:18 pm

P-F1 Mod wrote:What odds can I get on this? Any winnings go into the forum's repair fund.

I'll give you 5000/1, with a minimum bet of 1000

Honda Quick · Post by **Honda Quick** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:25 pm

No lap prediction.

One will retire via Honda power unit issues.

One will retire due to contact with another car.

Laura23 · Post by **Laura23** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:54 am

Honda Quick wrote:No lap prediction.

One will retire via Honda power unit issues.

One will retire due to contact with another car.

But the whole point was to give a lap prediction.

Laura23 · Post by **Laura23** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:55 am

rife_hypocricy wrote:one will finish, Kev Mag on the podium

I won't be the one to tell you then...

paulsf1fix · Post by **paulsf1fix** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:56 am

I reckon of the McLaren's won't make the starting grid it will break down but the other one will be in the points. If they got a podium that will be an amazing achievement but I don't think that will happen.

Post by **P-F1 Mod** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:57 am

Exediron wrote:
P-F1 Mod wrote:What odds can I get on this? Any winnings go into the forum's repair fund.
I'll give you 5000/1, with a minimum bet of 1000

I've checked down the back of the sofa, I might be able to take that bet

Desert Storm · Post by **Desert Storm** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:41 am

Jensen Button to finish 3rd
Alonso to retire on the lap after his first pitstop, lap 12/13 I reckon

2fast · Post by **2fast** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:59 am

IMHO, both will finish (but outside top 10)

FringeUK · Post by **FringeUK** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:34 am

I genuinely can't see either Macca making the finish line. Firstly, I presume they will still have their unreliability - they must have really, because they simply haven't fully 'tested'? Secondly, I presume they will want to preserve their engines given the restrictions - meaning that they cannot afford to run them if there is a serious risk of complete failure?
I'll say the last Macca will retire on lap 29.

AravJ · Post by **AravJ** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:47 am

Given the testing, I voted 21-30.
I am quietly hoping they can both finish, given last year I did not think Renault/Ferrari powered cars would last 20laps but they actually surprised me with their reliability when Aus came

DarkoA · Post by **DarkoA** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:49 am

I think one of them will make the podium!

bourbon19 · Post by **bourbon19** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:51 am

They managed 100 laps one day with some good stints. So I say one will finish and they will have to resolve issues on the other.

However, that may be the case for many teams...

ReservoirDog · Post by **ReservoirDog** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:14 am

I think they'll qualify deadlast and the engines would die by around lap 20 or so.

mds · Post by **mds** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:23 am

ReservoirDog wrote:I think they'll qualify deadlast

Not too likely if Manor runs...

Chunky · Post by **Chunky** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:54 am

Alonso will still have after effects from the Barca crash so Magnusson will be in his car. Turns out McLaren Honda have been sandbagging all the time. Jenson will lead the race until a late puncture, caused by running over debris from the customary Maldonado / Perez brain fade crash.

Kevin will get his first race win with Jenson taking third spot with Rosberg in the middle of the sandwich. Hamilton will have been rear ended by Vettel at the first pit stops.

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How far will the McHondas make it?