Well it was by common consent (we'll unlikely ever know more detail than that).... What else am I making up in what I already said was a "theory"?VDV23 wrote:Now you are just making things up. He forced his Ferrari exit, not the other way around.Covalent wrote:I wonder if Fernando has fallen out with his new team already... Loses his drive at Ferrari, has nowhere else to go to than McLaren with whom he already has history, finds out the marriage with Honda is an absolute disaster, crashes the car, is hospitalized, maybe says a few heated words to the wrong person...Kev627 wrote:Sorry if this has already been posted but I thought DC made an interesting point, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31768613
Crazy unlikely theory but I wouldn't be too surprised to see Magnussen driving more than the first race.
And DC doesn't make good points to begin with. From "staying for 3 days in the hospital for concussion is too much" they jump straight to "he's not motivated to drive a slow car".
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Well it made me laugh out loud, I didn't need a /sarcInBetween wrote:That tweet is mighty suspicious...
Something fishy going on here...I really think its RD impersonating FA...FIA should look into it ASAP
In which case why not take some of the tin foil hat brigade to task rather than someone poking fun at their idiocy...P-F1 Mod wrote:I realise that, but given the rumours that are currently flying around it's one I can easily see being taken seriously by someone. Sorry to take the fun out of it but it's meant to be a serious topic
The best thing to do with conspiracy theorists is laugh at them, see @alo_oficial
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Flavio gives his tuppence worth.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31806850
There's that 'strange' word again. It won't go away, even from those who are close to him. And he's not exactly complimentary about Mclaren either.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31806850
There's that 'strange' word again. It won't go away, even from those who are close to him. And he's not exactly complimentary about Mclaren either.
If...
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We have and are, on both points.Battle Far wrote:Well it made me laugh out loud, I didn't need a /sarcInBetween wrote:That tweet is mighty suspicious...
Something fishy going on here...I really think its RD impersonating FA...FIA should look into it ASAPIn which case why not take some of the tin foil hat brigade to task rather than someone poking fun at their idiocy...P-F1 Mod wrote:I realise that, but given the rumours that are currently flying around it's one I can easily see being taken seriously by someone. Sorry to take the fun out of it but it's meant to be a serious topic
The best thing to do with conspiracy theorists is laugh at them, see @alo_oficial
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Thanks for that as it confirms it was a normal accident but he hit the wall hard and he doesn't have any health problem to cause it and he said the mclaren was good.PzR Slim wrote:Flavio gives his tuppence worth.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31806850
There's that 'strange' word again. It won't go away, even from those who are close to him. And he's not exactly complimentary about Mclaren either.

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Still find it strange that while e.g. Kubica participated in the next race following his horrible crash in Canada, Alonso doesn't after that relatively minor crash.
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Kubica missed the next race, USA. Was replaced by Vettel.
I'm confused why the word 'strange' is used again with regards to this Alonso crash yet it's unchallenged by Alonso and mclaren.
I'm confused why the word 'strange' is used again with regards to this Alonso crash yet it's unchallenged by Alonso and mclaren.
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True had forgotten, but he still took part in a race just 3 weeks after the accident.Sutton wrote:Kubica missed the next race, USA. Was replaced by Vettel.
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He doesn't "confirm it was a normal accident", he states the accident was strange!A2jdl wrote:Thanks for that as it confirms it was a normal accident but he hit the wall hard and he doesn't have any health problem to cause it and he said the mclaren was good.PzR Slim wrote:Flavio gives his tuppence worth.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31806850
There's that 'strange' word again. It won't go away, even from those who are close to him. And he's not exactly complimentary about Mclaren either.
Basically this means that he isn't really believing McLaren's explanation."He crashes without any reason," he added.
"We have to see if there was a steering problem."
Go Vandoorne
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I'm pretty he just meant Flavio is so untrustworthy if he said it was sunny you'd get out an umbrella.mds wrote:He doesn't "confirm it was a normal accident", he states the accident was strange!A2jdl wrote:Thanks for that as it confirms it was a normal accident but he hit the wall hard and he doesn't have any health problem to cause it and he said the mclaren was good.PzR Slim wrote:Flavio gives his tuppence worth.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31806850
There's that 'strange' word again. It won't go away, even from those who are close to him. And he's not exactly complimentary about Mclaren either.
Basically this means that he isn't really believing McLaren's explanation."He crashes without any reason," he added.
"We have to see if there was a steering problem."
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I think the view of "sport" in relation to concussion was not so rigorous or focussed then.Covalent wrote:True had forgotten, but he still took part in a race just 3 weeks after the accident.Sutton wrote:Kubica missed the next race, USA. Was replaced by Vettel.
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Why is Bernie sending Briatore footage of the crash when nobody else seems to have seen it?
Schumacher was better than Senna.
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Isn't Briatore Alonso's manager?Beschy wrote:Why is Bernie sending Briatore footage of the crash when nobody else seems to have seen it?
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Then what does Luis Garcia Abad do?Covalent wrote:Isn't Briatore Alonso's manager?Beschy wrote:Why is Bernie sending Briatore footage of the crash when nobody else seems to have seen it?
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No idea but the article we are discussing starts with "Fernando Alonso's manager Flavio Briatore says ".mcdo wrote:Then what does Luis Garcia Abad do?Covalent wrote:Isn't Briatore Alonso's manager?Beschy wrote:Why is Bernie sending Briatore footage of the crash when nobody else seems to have seen it?
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And humble too.Azi wrote:I'm pretty he just meant Flavio is so untrustworthy if he said it was sunny you'd get out an umbrella.mds wrote:He doesn't "confirm it was a normal accident", he states the accident was strange!A2jdl wrote:Thanks for that as it confirms it was a normal accident but he hit the wall hard and he doesn't have any health problem to cause it and he said the mclaren was good.PzR Slim wrote:Flavio gives his tuppence worth.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31806850
There's that 'strange' word again. It won't go away, even from those who are close to him. And he's not exactly complimentary about Mclaren either.
Basically this means that he isn't really believing McLaren's explanation."He crashes without any reason," he added.
"We have to see if there was a steering problem."

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just read on another site that Alonso has said that he is working as hard as possible to be fit for Malaysia, I read that as meaning that he may well miss that race as well.
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*snort* oh typos!
That should have been 'pretty sure' obviously.

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Does that mean that he's out of observation and working on physical and mental agility (I.e. back to usual training regime), or that the doctors are observing him still and they're hoping he gets the all clear soon?owenmahamilton wrote:just read on another site that Alonso has said that he is working as hard as possible to be fit for Malaysia, I read that as meaning that he may well miss that race as well.
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back in to trainingminchy wrote:Does that mean that he's out of observation and working on physical and mental agility (I.e. back to usual training regime), or that the doctors are observing him still and they're hoping he gets the all clear soon?owenmahamilton wrote:just read on another site that Alonso has said that he is working as hard as possible to be fit for Malaysia, I read that as meaning that he may well miss that race as well.
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/24184 ... alaysia-gp
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Well that's good news at least.A2jdl wrote:back in to trainingminchy wrote:Does that mean that he's out of observation and working on physical and mental agility (I.e. back to usual training regime), or that the doctors are observing him still and they're hoping he gets the all clear soon?owenmahamilton wrote:just read on another site that Alonso has said that he is working as hard as possible to be fit for Malaysia, I read that as meaning that he may well miss that race as well.
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/24184 ... alaysia-gp
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Ron Dennis admits he wasn't honest when reporting about Fernando's injuries:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/m ... sion-crash
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/m ... sion-crash
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This is one of 100 reasons why I don't like Dennis.Covalent wrote:Ron Dennis admits he wasn't honest when reporting about Fernando's injuries:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/m ... sion-crash
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“It was not the best performance by me. I understand why the press beat me up for being inaccurate. I wanted to be open and honest. I failed. But it is my objective to try to be as honest as possible in future.”

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Well what do you know!Covalent wrote:Ron Dennis admits he wasn't honest when reporting about Fernando's injuries:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/m ... sion-crash
If...
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ClassicCovalent wrote:Ron Dennis admits he wasn't honest when reporting about Fernando's injuries:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/m ... sion-crash
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Briatore and Dennis... two great honest men...
If I had to choose one of them to trust, I'd pick Briatore.
If I had to choose one of them to trust, I'd pick Briatore.
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After reading Benson's stuff I was sure it was a normal accident. But then both Bernie and Flavio spoke questioning it.
Bernie knows pretty much everything in F1. And Flavio is a close friend of Alonso and is I believe the head of Alonso's management. There is obviously footage of the accident (Flavio said he seen it) and both have said its strange what happened. They wouldn't be saying this if it wasn't true.
Flavio definetly seems a little suspicious of McLaren.
Bernie knows pretty much everything in F1. And Flavio is a close friend of Alonso and is I believe the head of Alonso's management. There is obviously footage of the accident (Flavio said he seen it) and both have said its strange what happened. They wouldn't be saying this if it wasn't true.
Flavio definetly seems a little suspicious of McLaren.
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Maybe Ron should get one of those PR minders to follow him around like they do with the drivers.mds wrote:“It was not the best performance by me. I understand why the press beat me up for being inaccurate. I wanted to be open and honest. I failed. But it is my objective to try to be as honest as possible in future.”
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Simply astonishing!!!nixxxon wrote:Briatore and Dennis... two great honest men...
If I had to choose one of them to trust, I'd pick Briatore.
A man with an undischarged conviction for fraud in Italy, who as team principle for Renault and driver manager, sat on both sides of the negotiating table on driver contracts, only employing those from whom he took a cut via his driver management arm.
Who sacked a driver because he chose to change driver management and whose activities, arguably criminal, certainly deliberate rule breaking, included fuel system safety infringements, traction control, movable aerodynamic devices and most infamously, race fixing as well as destroying the career of an up an coming driver...
For mine, I don't think I'd trust your judgement to cross a road
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I agree re. Flavio - after Singapore '08 he should never be allowed near F1 again. Even so, Ron isn't exactly trustworthy either..., but I do love RonspeakBattle Far wrote:Simply astonishing!!!nixxxon wrote:Briatore and Dennis... two great honest men...
If I had to choose one of them to trust, I'd pick Briatore.
A man with an undischarged conviction for fraud in Italy, who as team principle for Renault and driver manager, sat on both sides of the negotiating table on driver contracts, only employing those from whom he took a cut via his driver management arm.
Who sacked a driver because he chose to change driver management and whose activities, arguably criminal, certainly deliberate rule breaking, included fuel system safety infringements, traction control, movable aerodynamic devices and most infamously, race fixing as well as destroying the career of an up an coming driver...
For mine, I don't think I'd trust your judgement to cross a road

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I have to agree with LKS1.... except I can do without Ron speak. Neither of them are trustworthy... funny thing is, most never really trusted Briatore, but prior to McLarengate(s), Ron was thought to be the "gentleman" racer, the representative of honor... funny (actually sad) how that perception has changed. Still, I do give Ron Dennis credit for some of his charitable actions outside F1.LKS1 wrote:I agree re. Flavio - after Singapore '08 he should never be allowed near F1 again. Even so, Ron isn't exactly trustworthy either..., but I do love RonspeakBattle Far wrote:Simply astonishing!!!nixxxon wrote:Briatore and Dennis... two great honest men...
If I had to choose one of them to trust, I'd pick Briatore.
A man with an undischarged conviction for fraud in Italy, who as team principle for Renault and driver manager, sat on both sides of the negotiating table on driver contracts, only employing those from whom he took a cut via his driver management arm.
Who sacked a driver because he chose to change driver management and whose activities, arguably criminal, certainly deliberate rule breaking, included fuel system safety infringements, traction control, movable aerodynamic devices and most infamously, race fixing as well as destroying the career of an up an coming driver...
For mine, I don't think I'd trust your judgement to cross a road.
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Well, at least with Flavio, what you see is what you get, anyone who ever thought his work ethics were unquestionable was seriously deluded...and I'm not refferring to his latter years in F1, I've always had the same opinion of him since I started following F1 (early 90s).Battle Far wrote:Simply astonishing!!!nixxxon wrote:Briatore and Dennis... two great honest men...
If I had to choose one of them to trust, I'd pick Briatore.
A man with an undischarged conviction for fraud in Italy, who as team principle for Renault and driver manager, sat on both sides of the negotiating table on driver contracts, only employing those from whom he took a cut via his driver management arm.
Who sacked a driver because he chose to change driver management and whose activities, arguably criminal, certainly deliberate rule breaking, included fuel system safety infringements, traction control, movable aerodynamic devices and most infamously, race fixing as well as destroying the career of an up an coming driver...
For mine, I don't think I'd trust your judgement to cross a road
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And both men are just like angels when compared to Ecclestone ...Blake wrote:I have to agree with LKS1.... except I can do without Ron speak. Neither of them are trustworthy... funny thing is, most never really trusted Briatore, but prior to McLarengate(s), Ron was thought to be the "gentleman" racer, the representative of honor... funny (actually sad) how that perception has changed. Still, I do give Ron Dennis credit for some of his charitable actions outside F1.LKS1 wrote:I agree re. Flavio - after Singapore '08 he should never be allowed near F1 again. Even so, Ron isn't exactly trustworthy either..., but I do love RonspeakBattle Far wrote:Simply astonishing!!!nixxxon wrote:Briatore and Dennis... two great honest men...
If I had to choose one of them to trust, I'd pick Briatore.
A man with an undischarged conviction for fraud in Italy, who as team principle for Renault and driver manager, sat on both sides of the negotiating table on driver contracts, only employing those from whom he took a cut via his driver management arm.
Who sacked a driver because he chose to change driver management and whose activities, arguably criminal, certainly deliberate rule breaking, included fuel system safety infringements, traction control, movable aerodynamic devices and most infamously, race fixing as well as destroying the career of an up an coming driver...
For mine, I don't think I'd trust your judgement to cross a road.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCqVyROqnoCovalent wrote:Ron Dennis admits he wasn't honest when reporting about Fernando's injuries:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/m ... sion-crash
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The Eternal President of North America's F1 Conspiracy Theory Society is back at it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhGEV5D5l6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhGEV5D5l6k

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCqVyROqnoCovalent wrote:Ron Dennis admits he wasn't honest when reporting about Fernando's injuries:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/m ... sion-crash



How to fix F1:
1. Stop seeking consensuses on rules - it will always turn out to be the least favourible option for everyone involved...
2. Listen to the fans - there are plenty of them and they have good ideas...
1. Stop seeking consensuses on rules - it will always turn out to be the least favourible option for everyone involved...
2. Listen to the fans - there are plenty of them and they have good ideas...
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What. A. Loon.Toby. wrote:The Eternal President of North America's F1 Conspiracy Theory Society is back at it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhGEV5D5l6k
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Well at least he knows who he is.RaggedMan wrote:What. A. Loon.Toby. wrote:The Eternal President of North America's F1 Conspiracy Theory Society is back at it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhGEV5D5l6k
...Oh.
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As you noticed Flavio didnt rule out electric shock. Changing shift or braking during accident wont rule out that also. Muscles do funny things when you give some electric to them.
Also many people who have received shocks from stun gun, cant figure out what happened to them, if the shock was given from behind.
It seems that Mr. Dennis is pathetic liar and his credibility has reached "Putin level".
Also many people who have received shocks from stun gun, cant figure out what happened to them, if the shock was given from behind.
It seems that Mr. Dennis is pathetic liar and his credibility has reached "Putin level".