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Laura23 wrote: No two head injuries are the same. We still don't know if the reports he thought it was 1995 are even true or just tabloid fodder that's gotten out of hand again.
With 80 billion neurons involved and 10K connections per neuron, they could hardly be the same. Like I mentioned before, IF he had even an episode of long term memory loss then that's a problem. Memory of the accident may easily be lost because the brain is still in the course of processing information and has not filed it away - much like a computer losing RAM memory when it crashes. The stuff on the hard drive should remain though or else it's an indication of more serious trauma. At this point it's not known exactly how big of a problem FA had (or has), but there is likely at least some truth to those rumors.

He will always be at an increased risk now. Even if he passes all medical tests and gets clearance, his next minor accident may very well be career ending. The problem is that there is so much riding on him, and McLaren, that they can hardly be counted upon to do the right thing at this point.

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"In a few days the championship begins and we'll run out of "science fiction". I propose a game with RT (that means retweet I assume) for the most/more creative ones. The hashtag translates to: Where has he awoken today?

:lol:

He also says that he'll be 100% for Malaysia

Source: http://www.marca.com/2015/03/06/motor/f ... MBOSO34503

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VDV23 wrote:Image

"In a few days the championship begins and we'll run out of "science fiction". I propose a game with RT (that means retweet I assume) for the most/more creative ones. The hashtag translates to: Where has he awoken today?

:lol:

He also says that he'll be 100% for Malaysia

Source: http://www.marca.com/2015/03/06/motor/f ... MBOSO34503
More precisely, it translates as "Where have YOU awoken today?".
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Sorry about that. My Spanish's a bit rusty, haven't used it in an year or so.

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That tweet is mighty suspicious...

Something fishy going on here...I really think its RD impersonating FA...FIA should look into it ASAP

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InBetween wrote:That tweet is mighty suspicious...

Something fishy going on here...I really think its RD impersonating FA...FIA should look into it ASAP
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InBetween wrote:That tweet is mighty suspicious...

Something fishy going on here...I really think its RD impersonating FA...FIA should look into it ASAP
Any moment now Dr. Harnstein will tweet that it was the concussion speaking/tweeting and FA is not being himself :o

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Ok guys this is starting to get silly now.

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P-F1 Mod wrote:Ok guys this is starting to get silly now.
What us or the entire Alonso situation?
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InBetween wrote:That tweet is mighty suspicious...

Something fishy going on here...I really think its RD impersonating FA...FIA should look into it ASAP
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Laura23 wrote:
P-F1 Mod wrote:Ok guys this is starting to get silly now.
What us or the entire Alonso situation?
:thumbup: We're only feeding off the bizarre information we've been given. Don't give out to us for speculating on poorly communicated information
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Even if Alonso has permanent memory loss he would not admit it for obvious reasons. The other thing this incident has brought up is that the cars need horizontal dampers attached around the wheels to take the jarring shock out of these sideways crashes. Anyway, it gives an opportunity for McLaren to see how Magnussen and Button compare in the 2015 car and Magnussen has already said he likes the predictability of it.

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mas wrote:Even if Alonso has permanent memory loss he would not admit it for obvious reasons. The other thing this incident has brought up is that the cars need horizontal dampers attached around the wheels to take the jarring shock out of these sideways crashes. Anyway, it gives an opportunity for McLaren to see how Magnussen and Button compare in the 2015 car and Magnussen has already said he likes the predictability of it.
Button likes a predictable car too, though. If the car is stable and predictable Jenson will be on another level to what he was able to do with the last couple of McLarens. Mark my words!
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Exediron wrote:
mas wrote:Even if Alonso has permanent memory loss he would not admit it for obvious reasons. The other thing this incident has brought up is that the cars need horizontal dampers attached around the wheels to take the jarring shock out of these sideways crashes. Anyway, it gives an opportunity for McLaren to see how Magnussen and Button compare in the 2015 car and Magnussen has already said he likes the predictability of it.
Button likes a predictable car too, though. If the car is stable and predictable Jenson will be on another level to what he was able to do with the last couple of McLarens. Mark my words!
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P-F1 Mod wrote:Ok guys this is starting to get silly now.
That's the point...the whole situation is silly.

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InBetween wrote:
P-F1 Mod wrote:Ok guys this is starting to get silly now.
That's the point...the whole situation is silly.
Indeed. It is sooo "silly" that one of the top drivers in the sport is coping with a potentially career-ending injury.

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Yes but suggesting that Dennis is tweeting for Alonso to further some conspiracy theory is a bit far fetched. That's about the only thing that HASN'T been suggested in reports.

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I can imagine Alonso coming around and saying he wanted to be in F1, and Ron Dennis handing him a 5 year contract saying " Sign this lad, I will give you DOUIBLE what we are paying Mika Häkkinen"

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SmoothRide wrote:
InBetween wrote:
P-F1 Mod wrote:Ok guys this is starting to get silly now.
That's the point...the whole situation is silly.
Indeed. It is sooo "silly" that one of the top drivers in the sport is coping with a potentially career-ending injury.
No he is not, he is training in Dubai getting ready for Malaysia. This silliness is beyond me...potentially career ending injury ¿where have you seen any shred of proof of such thing?

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P-F1 Mod wrote:Yes but suggesting that Dennis is tweeting for Alonso to further some conspiracy theory is a bit far fetched. That's about the only thing that HASN'T been suggested in reports.
It was a joke... :?

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InBetween wrote: No he is not, he is training in Dubai getting ready for Malaysia. This silliness is beyond me...potentially career ending injury ¿where have you seen any shred of proof of such thing?
McLaren have now confirmed that there was (or is) memory loss involved. A person does not just forget their entire adult life, there is nothing "normal" about it, regardless of how many times McLaren repeat that it is. Alonso himself surely wants to think he's ok, but at this point there is essentially no way that he can get in a race car this year without very serious risk to himself and others.

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SmoothRide wrote:
InBetween wrote: No he is not, he is training in Dubai getting ready for Malaysia. This silliness is beyond me...potentially career ending injury ¿where have you seen any shred of proof of such thing?
McLaren have now confirmed that there was (or is) memory loss involved. A person does not just forget their entire adult life, there is nothing "normal" about it, regardless of how many times McLaren repeat that it is. Alonso himself surely wants to think he's ok, but at this point there is essentially no way that he can get in a race car this year without very serious risk to himself and others.
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SmoothRide wrote:
InBetween wrote: No he is not, he is training in Dubai getting ready for Malaysia. This silliness is beyond me...potentially career ending injury ¿where have you seen any shred of proof of such thing?
McLaren have now confirmed that there was (or is) memory loss involved. A person does not just forget their entire adult life, there is nothing "normal" about it, regardless of how many times McLaren repeat that it is. Alonso himself surely wants to think he's ok, but at this point there is essentially no way that he can get in a race car this year without very serious risk to himself and others.
McLaren has confirmed that there was some memory loss not that he's "forgotten his entire adult life."

Even if right after he came to his response to the EMT's was that he was still in karting it doesn't mean that he still thinks that or that the last 20 years of memories are gone.

I've seen interviews with NFL players who have talked about thinking that they were in a college game when asked those types of questions after taking a blow to the head. It's not that uncommon, and more like being unaware of where you are at the moment so your mind brings up a memory that it can recall with circumstances that fit the current surroundings.

I'm not trying to down play this event, but some are making too much of it.
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InBetween wrote:
P-F1 Mod wrote:Yes but suggesting that Dennis is tweeting for Alonso to further some conspiracy theory is a bit far fetched. That's about the only thing that HASN'T been suggested in reports.
It was a joke... :?
yeah, but be careful making jokes that could come true.. ;)

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RaggedMan wrote: I've seen interviews with NFL players who have talked about thinking that they were in a college game when asked those types of questions after taking a blow to the head. It's not that uncommon, and more like being unaware of where you are at the moment so your mind brings up a memory that it can recall with circumstances that fit the current surroundings.

I'm not trying to down play this event, but some are making too much of it.
Perhaps the same NFL players who have recently successfully sued the league on account of head injuries that ruined their lives?

I know that people are in denial about this whole thing, this is a natural tendency, but there is human health/life at stake here, and not just Alonso's. Somebody has to look at it with an objective eye and do the right thing. Otherwise it's asking for a disaster to happen.

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SmoothRide wrote:
RaggedMan wrote: I've seen interviews with NFL players who have talked about thinking that they were in a college game when asked those types of questions after taking a blow to the head. It's not that uncommon, and more like being unaware of where you are at the moment so your mind brings up a memory that it can recall with circumstances that fit the current surroundings.

I'm not trying to down play this event, but some are making too much of it.
Perhaps the same NFL players who have recently successfully sued the league on account of head injuries that ruined their lives?

I know that people are in denial about this whole thing, this is a natural tendency, but there is human health/life at stake here, and not just Alonso's. Somebody has to look at it with an objective eye and do the right thing. Otherwise it's asking for a disaster to happen.
There's no doubt that this is a serious incident. I'm not downplaying head injuries but there is a difference between not being aware of time and place in the immediate aftermath of a head trauma and losing the memory of your whole adult life for good.

However people are taking uncorroborated accounts of what Alonso said right after the crash and making it sound like to this day he still doesn't know what year it is or what level of racing he's competeing in.
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RaggedMan wrote: There's no doubt that this is a serious incident. I'm not downplaying head injuries but there is a difference between not being aware of time and place in the immediate aftermath of a head trauma and losing the memory of your whole adult life for good.

However people are taking uncorroborated accounts of what Alonso said right after the crash and making it sound like to this day he still doesn't know what year it is or what level of racing he's competeing in.
The reason these uncorroborated accounts have gained so much momentum is that the official account has been so inconsistent and generally suspicious.

From the original accident, with the first eye witness accounts describing it like he tried to pull over, McLaren going completely silent at first before blaming it on the wind a day later, announcing he was fine, saying the prolonged stay at the hospital was just precautionary and there was nothing wrong, before later saying he was concussed (while somehow simultaneously asserting he was uninjured...) and going back and forth with the official story. Combine that with the fact that the impact appeared to be far less serious than the ones you see drivers walk away from all the time.

Then there's the complete lack of any information from Alonso himself, apart from what appeared to be one very short highly scripted and carefully worded video release, and it's easy to see why people are worried that everything is not as straightforward as McLaren are making out. Respected people from the F1 media, and from within F1 itself, have questioned what happened and described it as strange.

There's no smoke without fire, and there are so many suspicious circumstances surrounding this case that it's difficult to take McLaren at face value (especially when they continue to use evasive language - when asked about the memory loss they replied that "it is not unusual" rather than confirming or denying anything or giving any details) - of course, Alonso's personal medical details are between him and his doctors, so you could say that it's not McLaren's place to reveal anything, which is true. But if there was nothing to reveal then they wouldn't need to be so evasive.

Hopefully Alonso is all clear and back racing in Malaysia, but I wouldn't be so dismissive of some of the reports coming out, purely because McLaren are clearly hiding something with their behaviour.

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steoc4 wrote:
RaggedMan wrote: There's no doubt that this is a serious incident. I'm not downplaying head injuries but there is a difference between not being aware of time and place in the immediate aftermath of a head trauma and losing the memory of your whole adult life for good.

However people are taking uncorroborated accounts of what Alonso said right after the crash and making it sound like to this day he still doesn't know what year it is or what level of racing he's competeing in.
The reason these uncorroborated accounts have gained so much momentum is that the official account has been so inconsistent and generally suspicious.

From the original accident, with the first eye witness accounts describing it like he tried to pull over, McLaren going completely silent at first before blaming it on the wind a day later, announcing he was fine, saying the prolonged stay at the hospital was just precautionary and there was nothing wrong, before later saying he was concussed (while somehow simultaneously asserting he was uninjured...) and going back and forth with the official story. Combine that with the fact that the impact appeared to be far less serious than the ones you see drivers walk away from all the time.

Then there's the complete lack of any information from Alonso himself, apart from what appeared to be one very short highly scripted and carefully worded video release, and it's easy to see why people are worried that everything is not as straightforward as McLaren are making out. Respected people from the F1 media, and from within F1 itself, have questioned what happened and described it as strange.

There's no smoke without fire, and there are so many suspicious circumstances surrounding this case that it's difficult to take McLaren at face value (especially when they continue to use evasive language - when asked about the memory loss they replied that "it is not unusual" rather than confirming or denying anything or giving any details) - of course, Alonso's personal medical details are between him and his doctors, so you could say that it's not McLaren's place to reveal anything, which is true. But if there was nothing to reveal then they wouldn't need to be so evasive.

Hopefully Alonso is all clear and back racing in Malaysia, but I wouldn't be so dismissive of some of the reports coming out, purely because McLaren are clearly hiding something with their behaviour.
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Pretty much nailed it. If McLaren had straight away come out with a statement along the lines of "Fernando suffered a concussion, his condition will be monitored and we will then make any decisions regarding his participation in future races" then I think a lot of the speculation would have been quelled. I mean, the accident still seems strange and questions do need to be answered about how it actually occurred and how a relatively tame impact can cause such an injury, but it would have clarified a lot and not seemed so "cloak and dagger".
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TheOtherGuy wrote:
steoc4 wrote:
RaggedMan wrote: There's no doubt that this is a serious incident. I'm not downplaying head injuries but there is a difference between not being aware of time and place in the immediate aftermath of a head trauma and losing the memory of your whole adult life for good.

However people are taking uncorroborated accounts of what Alonso said right after the crash and making it sound like to this day he still doesn't know what year it is or what level of racing he's competeing in.
The reason these uncorroborated accounts have gained so much momentum is that the official account has been so inconsistent and generally suspicious.

From the original accident, with the first eye witness accounts describing it like he tried to pull over, McLaren going completely silent at first before blaming it on the wind a day later, announcing he was fine, saying the prolonged stay at the hospital was just precautionary and there was nothing wrong, before later saying he was concussed (while somehow simultaneously asserting he was uninjured...) and going back and forth with the official story. Combine that with the fact that the impact appeared to be far less serious than the ones you see drivers walk away from all the time.

Then there's the complete lack of any information from Alonso himself, apart from what appeared to be one very short highly scripted and carefully worded video release, and it's easy to see why people are worried that everything is not as straightforward as McLaren are making out. Respected people from the F1 media, and from within F1 itself, have questioned what happened and described it as strange.

There's no smoke without fire, and there are so many suspicious circumstances surrounding this case that it's difficult to take McLaren at face value (especially when they continue to use evasive language - when asked about the memory loss they replied that "it is not unusual" rather than confirming or denying anything or giving any details) - of course, Alonso's personal medical details are between him and his doctors, so you could say that it's not McLaren's place to reveal anything, which is true. But if there was nothing to reveal then they wouldn't need to be so evasive.

Hopefully Alonso is all clear and back racing in Malaysia, but I wouldn't be so dismissive of some of the reports coming out, purely because McLaren are clearly hiding something with their behaviour.
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Pretty much nailed it. If McLaren had straight away come out with a statement along the lines of "Fernando suffered a concussion, his condition will be monitored and we will then make any decisions regarding his participation in future races" then I think a lot of the speculation would have been quelled. I mean, the accident still seems strange and questions do need to be answered about how it actually occurred and how a relatively tame impact can cause such an injury, but it would have clarified a lot and not seemed so "cloak and dagger".
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I would want to believe everything is fine with Alonso...... There is nothing to gain for Mclaren doing anything fishy...... They can't obviously get away doing some fishy stuff...too many people to buy off.

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InBetween wrote:
P-F1 Mod wrote:Yes but suggesting that Dennis is tweeting for Alonso to further some conspiracy theory is a bit far fetched. That's about the only thing that HASN'T been suggested in reports.
It was a joke... :?
I realise that, but given the rumours that are currently flying around it's one I can easily see being taken seriously by someone. Sorry to take the fun out of it but it's meant to be a serious topic.

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TheOtherGuy wrote:
steoc4 wrote:
RaggedMan wrote: There's no doubt that this is a serious incident. I'm not downplaying head injuries but there is a difference between not being aware of time and place in the immediate aftermath of a head trauma and losing the memory of your whole adult life for good.

However people are taking uncorroborated accounts of what Alonso said right after the crash and making it sound like to this day he still doesn't know what year it is or what level of racing he's competeing in.
The reason these uncorroborated accounts have gained so much momentum is that the official account has been so inconsistent and generally suspicious.

From the original accident, with the first eye witness accounts describing it like he tried to pull over, McLaren going completely silent at first before blaming it on the wind a day later, announcing he was fine, saying the prolonged stay at the hospital was just precautionary and there was nothing wrong, before later saying he was concussed (while somehow simultaneously asserting he was uninjured...) and going back and forth with the official story. Combine that with the fact that the impact appeared to be far less serious than the ones you see drivers walk away from all the time.

Then there's the complete lack of any information from Alonso himself, apart from what appeared to be one very short highly scripted and carefully worded video release, and it's easy to see why people are worried that everything is not as straightforward as McLaren are making out. Respected people from the F1 media, and from within F1 itself, have questioned what happened and described it as strange.

There's no smoke without fire, and there are so many suspicious circumstances surrounding this case that it's difficult to take McLaren at face value (especially when they continue to use evasive language - when asked about the memory loss they replied that "it is not unusual" rather than confirming or denying anything or giving any details) - of course, Alonso's personal medical details are between him and his doctors, so you could say that it's not McLaren's place to reveal anything, which is true. But if there was nothing to reveal then they wouldn't need to be so evasive.

Hopefully Alonso is all clear and back racing in Malaysia, but I wouldn't be so dismissive of some of the reports coming out, purely because McLaren are clearly hiding something with their behaviour.
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Pretty much nailed it. If McLaren had straight away come out with a statement along the lines of "Fernando suffered a concussion, his condition will be monitored and we will then make any decisions regarding his participation in future races" then I think a lot of the speculation would have been quelled. I mean, the accident still seems strange and questions do need to be answered about how it actually occurred and how a relatively tame impact can cause such an injury, but it would have clarified a lot and not seemed so "cloak and dagger".
It's been said before: this could all have happened on behalf of Alonso, too... Drivers don't want to see their position weakened due to (minor) injuries, so they cover them up...
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egnat69 wrote:
TheOtherGuy wrote:
steoc4 wrote:
RaggedMan wrote: There's no doubt that this is a serious incident. I'm not downplaying head injuries but there is a difference between not being aware of time and place in the immediate aftermath of a head trauma and losing the memory of your whole adult life for good.

However people are taking uncorroborated accounts of what Alonso said right after the crash and making it sound like to this day he still doesn't know what year it is or what level of racing he's competeing in.
The reason these uncorroborated accounts have gained so much momentum is that the official account has been so inconsistent and generally suspicious.

From the original accident, with the first eye witness accounts describing it like he tried to pull over, McLaren going completely silent at first before blaming it on the wind a day later, announcing he was fine, saying the prolonged stay at the hospital was just precautionary and there was nothing wrong, before later saying he was concussed (while somehow simultaneously asserting he was uninjured...) and going back and forth with the official story. Combine that with the fact that the impact appeared to be far less serious than the ones you see drivers walk away from all the time.

Then there's the complete lack of any information from Alonso himself, apart from what appeared to be one very short highly scripted and carefully worded video release, and it's easy to see why people are worried that everything is not as straightforward as McLaren are making out. Respected people from the F1 media, and from within F1 itself, have questioned what happened and described it as strange.

There's no smoke without fire, and there are so many suspicious circumstances surrounding this case that it's difficult to take McLaren at face value (especially when they continue to use evasive language - when asked about the memory loss they replied that "it is not unusual" rather than confirming or denying anything or giving any details) - of course, Alonso's personal medical details are between him and his doctors, so you could say that it's not McLaren's place to reveal anything, which is true. But if there was nothing to reveal then they wouldn't need to be so evasive.

Hopefully Alonso is all clear and back racing in Malaysia, but I wouldn't be so dismissive of some of the reports coming out, purely because McLaren are clearly hiding something with their behaviour.
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Pretty much nailed it. If McLaren had straight away come out with a statement along the lines of "Fernando suffered a concussion, his condition will be monitored and we will then make any decisions regarding his participation in future races" then I think a lot of the speculation would have been quelled. I mean, the accident still seems strange and questions do need to be answered about how it actually occurred and how a relatively tame impact can cause such an injury, but it would have clarified a lot and not seemed so "cloak and dagger".
It's been said before: this could all have happened on behalf of Alonso, too... Drivers don't want to see their position weakened due to (minor) injuries, so they cover them up...
Keeping the official line evasive so as to keep their driver's reputation intact? I doubt it somehow
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mcdo wrote:Keeping the official line evasive so as to keep their driver's reputation intact? I doubt it somehow
Passing out while driving due to a medical condition wouldn't be something an F1 driver would like to know the public or the other drivers... Keep in mind, we're talking about people that don't tell their own team about serious injuries...

Just saying, with all the conspiracy theories going on, that should also be something that should be kept in mind... Something that is wrong with the car and subsequently being covered up of course is more interesting for the public and the fans... Something that is wrong with the driver naturally isn't anything a fan or fan-like publication would think about, but surely it is in the realm of the possible...
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1. Stop seeking consensuses on rules - it will always turn out to be the least favourible option for everyone involved...
2. Listen to the fans - there are plenty of them and they have good ideas...

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Sorry if this has already been posted but I thought DC made an interesting point, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31768613

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Kev627 wrote:Sorry if this has already been posted but I thought DC made an interesting point, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31768613
I wonder if Fernando has fallen out with his new team already... Loses his drive at Ferrari, has nowhere else to go to than McLaren with whom he already has history, finds out the marriage with Honda is an absolute disaster, crashes the car, is hospitalized, maybe says a few heated words to the wrong person...
Crazy unlikely theory but I wouldn't be too surprised to see Magnussen driving more than the first race.

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Covalent wrote:
Kev627 wrote:Sorry if this has already been posted but I thought DC made an interesting point, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31768613
I wonder if Fernando has fallen out with his new team already... Loses his drive at Ferrari, has nowhere else to go to than McLaren with whom he already has history, finds out the marriage with Honda is an absolute disaster, crashes the car, is hospitalized, maybe says a few heated words to the wrong person...
Crazy unlikely theory but I wouldn't be too surprised to see Magnussen driving more than the first race.
I have personally though about something along the same lines but more related to ways of exiting a contract quickly. I don't want to go into that but I have thought about it.

I am beginning to wonder though if this situation would have been dealt with very differently if there was no long term memory loss. When I say long term memory loss I talking about memory loss of things that happened a long time in the past, short term memory loss being the moments leading up the accident.
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Razoola wrote:
Covalent wrote:
Kev627 wrote:Sorry if this has already been posted but I thought DC made an interesting point, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31768613
I wonder if Fernando has fallen out with his new team already... Loses his drive at Ferrari, has nowhere else to go to than McLaren with whom he already has history, finds out the marriage with Honda is an absolute disaster, crashes the car, is hospitalized, maybe says a few heated words to the wrong person...
Crazy unlikely theory but I wouldn't be too surprised to see Magnussen driving more than the first race.
I have personally though about something along the same lines but more related to ways of exiting a contract quickly. I don't want to go into that but I have thought about it.
He wouldn't win anything by exiting his contract now. He has no team to drive for this year anyway. He's smart enough to wait it out at least half a year and gauge whether McLaren-Honda have a chance to come good for 2016 or 2017.
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Covalent wrote:
Kev627 wrote:Sorry if this has already been posted but I thought DC made an interesting point, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31768613
I wonder if Fernando has fallen out with his new team already... Loses his drive at Ferrari, has nowhere else to go to than McLaren with whom he already has history, finds out the marriage with Honda is an absolute disaster, crashes the car, is hospitalized, maybe says a few heated words to the wrong person...
Crazy unlikely theory but I wouldn't be too surprised to see Magnussen driving more than the first race.
Now you are just making things up. He forced his Ferrari exit, not the other way around.

And DC doesn't make good points to begin with. From "staying for 3 days in the hospital for concussion is too much" they jump straight to "he's not motivated to drive a slow car".

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VDV23 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
Kev627 wrote:Sorry if this has already been posted but I thought DC made an interesting point, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31768613
I wonder if Fernando has fallen out with his new team already... Loses his drive at Ferrari, has nowhere else to go to than McLaren with whom he already has history, finds out the marriage with Honda is an absolute disaster, crashes the car, is hospitalized, maybe says a few heated words to the wrong person...
Crazy unlikely theory but I wouldn't be too surprised to see Magnussen driving more than the first race.
Now you are just making things up. He forced his Ferrari exit, not the other way around.

And DC doesn't make good points to begin with. From "staying for 3 days in the hospital for concussion is too much" they jump straight to "he's not motivated to drive a slow car".
Next they will be saying Mclaren arnt letting him race because he is in contract negotiations with Merc, to take Hamiltons place :lol:

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