lbennie wrote:Hamilton is not consistent enough to be seen as king imo. He also has a much more dominant car than vettel ever did and he is not getting anywhere near the level of performance Seb was hitting. This against a team mate who was beaten quite comfortably by webber.
In his debut year, when it was Webber's 5th full year? Also - bearing in mind that was the year before I started following F1 - but just looking at the numbers it doesn't really look like Webber was that far ahead of Rosberg. 7 points against 4, and both of them retired so much it's hard to make out much else on the basis of the numbers alone. After that season he went on to never be beaten by a teammate again until he partnered Lewis last year, so I'd cut him some slack.
James14 wrote:My point is has Hamilton done that much in a non dominant car?
He's done everything he's done in a non-dominant car, up until this year. That word gets thrown around way too much here; the Mercedes of this year is dominant, because it's clearly the best at all times. A car that is equal best or only best sometimes is not dominant, and unless it's clearly the best car it's not dominant. The McLaren of 2007 wasn't dominant, unless Raikkonen and Massa were actually much better drivers than Lewis and Alonso, and the McLaren of 2008 wasn't either or Lewis should have had it tied up well before the last race and his teammate would have been a bit higher than seventh. It's obvious that the later McLarens weren't dominant either, and the Mercedes of 2013 certainly wasn't.
Out of this decade I think the only cars with any claim to being truly dominant were the Mass Damper Renault of early 2006, the Brawn BGP 001 at the start of 2009, the RB7 for pretty much its entire run and the RB9 at the end of 2013. And of course the Mercedes W05 Hybrid, so far at least.