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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113501

No. Really. He said that. Apparently the GUT incident was a 'soft crash', hate to think what he calls a hard crash, and that ten years ago 'everyone was fighting and touching, because there were no penalties', don't know what F1 he was watching because I remember Montoya and Schumacher being hit with a few a decade ago.

To me it sounds like the boy just can't take responsibility for anything which IMO is really rather scary in a sport as dangerous as this one.
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Silly penalties in F1 will hurt the racing yes but Maldonaldo deserves the one for hitting Esteban Gutiérrez it was dangerous he should have been given a 10 grid drop and not 5.

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I can see what he is saying, but this was a valid penalty and points...

Think he's worried that he will quickly have enough penalties for a race ban due to his dangerous driving.

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On this matter, I'm a bit gutted for Bianchi as he's up there with 4 points already and I think he deserved none.
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it's tough to agree with him, I can see how too many penalties can ruin F1, but he shouldn't be saying that, as you deserve not to race if you ruin's somebody else's race. As good as the last race was, that crash really ruined it. I just waited for this when I heard he'll be in a Lotus. He didn't blame Guti outright but did not apologize either and I do think he got off too light.

Let's hope he gets his act together or the next time I'd like to see him banned for 5 races....

This time it was Gutierezz, next time it could be Hamilton or Rosberg, he could end up being a big championship player...

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""In my opinion it was a normal race contact" - LOL, bet Gutierrez didn't think so when he was upside down!

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Swiss1 wrote:I can see what he is saying, but this was a valid penalty and points...

Think he's worried that he will quickly have enough penalties for a race ban due to his dangerous driving.


Ka-ching

Maldonado is too aggressive and does stupid things far too often. He knows that if the penalty system is enforced, he will run out of points and receive a race ban. Grosjean learned his lesson, changed, and is better because of it. But Maldonado, he just doesn't learn. He should pack his suitcase and move to NASCAR.

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Does this guy even read the rule book? I often wonder how Pastor Maldonados mind actually works, well I presume like most peoples but you get what I mean ;)
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Wow. Just wow.

I was going to make a political joke but i'll refrain.

Lets hope Gutierrez ends up much higher in the championship this year.
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Blinky McSquinty wrote:
Swiss1 wrote:I can see what he is saying, but this was a valid penalty and points...

Think he's worried that he will quickly have enough penalties for a race ban due to his dangerous driving.


Ka-ching

Maldonado is too aggressive and does stupid things far too often. He knows that if the penalty system is enforced, he will run out of points and receive a race ban. Grosjean learned his lesson, changed, and is better because of it. But Maldonado, he just doesn't learn. He should pack his suitcase and move to NASCAR.

He must have said that after the car came to rest and he was there hanging by his shoulder straps. Knowing that he was Ok and having the image of him hanging there wondering why the world is upside-down gives it a surreal humor that makes me chuckle.
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Robbo-92 wrote: I often wonder how Pastor Maldonados mind actually works


Most of the time it doesn't.

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yeah, the reaction was funny, given that he was allright, seems like a nice guy. It should have been Maldonado uspide down and out of the race, but oh well.

I can agree Maldonado does have some talent, but won't last long with those antics

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Guys there is a thread about the Gutierrez/Maldonado incident. This is not about that topic.

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Laura23 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113501

No. Really. He said that. Apparently the GUT incident was a 'soft crash', hate to think what he calls a hard crash, and that ten years ago 'everyone was fighting and touching, because there were no penalties', don't know what F1 he was watching because I remember Montoya and Schumacher being hit with a few a decade ago.

To me it sounds like the boy just can't take responsibility for anything which IMO is really rather scary in a sport as dangerous as this one.

The guy is worried about getting banned and basically doesn't really realise what an idiot he is at times
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Really. What a tool.
Its that he knows he will get banned.

For what its worth. I still think he should be sitting out a gp. If not 2 orc3.

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He is only saying this because he knows that at somepoint this season he will get a race ban. Okay he has won a race, but he doesnt engage his brain when racing and too many incidents in the past... a race ban sorted out Grojean no end... This is where i thing the penalty points come into their own.

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He doesn't get it at all....

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Laura23 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113501

No. Really. He said that. Apparently the GUT incident was a 'soft crash', hate to think what he calls a hard crash, and that ten years ago 'everyone was fighting and touching, because there were no penalties', don't know what F1 he was watching because I remember Montoya and Schumacher being hit with a few a decade ago.

To me it sounds like the boy just can't take responsibility for anything which IMO is really rather scary in a sport as dangerous as this one.


I remember a younger Michael saying similar 10 years ago over his run ins with other drivers

Not that the 2 could ever be compared, but Schumacher sort of had a point in that he grew up with the whole Senna era of hitting, pushing shoving running off the road / in to each other antics

Maldonado probably wasn't even born so he cannot cite the same reasons

The guy is a liability and even the other drivers call him dangerous, says something doesn't it.........

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Maybe he is testing some material for his post F1 stand up routine.

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Laura23 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113501

No. Really. He said that. Apparently the GUT incident was a 'soft crash', hate to think what he calls a hard crash, and that ten years ago 'everyone was fighting and touching, because there were no penalties', don't know what F1 he was watching because I remember Montoya and Schumacher being hit with a few a decade ago.

To me it sounds like the boy just can't take responsibility for anything which IMO is really rather scary in a sport as dangerous as this one.

it was a soft crash, that seemed like a hard crash because the spectacularity of it, but it was really a soft crash. Both cars were going very slowly when they collided.

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Well I do agree that there are way too many penalties in F1 nowadays the problem is that it comes from Maldonado's mouth. If someone should already had a a whole season ban (if not lifetime or license revoked) it must be him. It was because of his stupidity that he sC had to come out and the race was ruined for some.
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nixxxon wrote:
Laura23 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113501

No. Really. He said that. Apparently the GUT incident was a 'soft crash', hate to think what he calls a hard crash, and that ten years ago 'everyone was fighting and touching, because there were no penalties', don't know what F1 he was watching because I remember Montoya and Schumacher being hit with a few a decade ago.

To me it sounds like the boy just can't take responsibility for anything which IMO is really rather scary in a sport as dangerous as this one.

it was a soft crash, that seemed like a hard crash because the spectacularity of it, but it was really a soft crash. Both cars were going very slowly when they collided.

Karl Wendlinger was going at 30MPH when he hit that barrier in Monaco back in 1994. It isn't the speed that matters, it's the move in the first place and that one was pathetic from Maldonado.
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Laura23 wrote:Karl Wendlinger was going at 30MPH when he hit that barrier in Monaco back in 1994. It isn't the speed that matters, it's the move in the first place and that one was pathetic from Maldonado.

I just watched the Wendlinger video and looked more like 130MPH rather than 30MPH... With those 1994 cars that had poor safety.
Anyway, you could also say Gutierrez should have been more aware of the car that was coming out from the pits. He shut the door completely in the corner and Pastor had nowhere to go. Weren't they fighting for position?
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We've comfortably established Maldonado should have been penalised for the Bahrain incident. Can we please focus on the wider issue rather than just this one incident. As I have already said, there is another thread for that.

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FIA penalties may spoil racing for Maldonado but they will improve racing for everyone else.

Maldonado races in a constant state of red mist. It is scary that he seems to have the same
clouded judgement even when the adrenaline is not flowing. Does he have to hurt someone or
himself before he gets it. Good racers seldom make these kinds of mistakes and when they do
they tend to make light contact because they error by a smaller margin. Maldonado is a much
better driver in his head than he is in real life.

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ETM3 wrote:FIA penalties may spoil racing for Maldonado but they will improve racing for everyone else.

Maldonado races in a constant state of red mist. It is scary that he seems to have the same
clouded judgement even when the adrenaline is not flowing. Does he have to hurt someone or
himself before he gets it.
Good racers seldom make these kinds of mistakes and when they do
they tend to make light contact because they error by a smaller margin. Maldonado is a much
better driver in his head than he is in real life.


The bit in bold is the problem. He has already nearly killed a Marshall in Monaco because he ignored yellow flags.

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I wonder how much of his talking of no blame is down to his sponsors ?

A bit like the old never admit blame in the event of an accident for your insurers

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Human nature. Maldonado likely does not belong in F1, and sees the penalty points as a danger to his future. Another example of "Whose ox is being gored?". Not surprising at all

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LOL Normal race contact...for Pastor - contact is an inevitable part of racing. Its ridiculous in open wheel F1 to have that outlook surely...?!

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How long do the penalty points actually stay on a license? Are they wiped at the end of the season or is it 12 months? 24 months? If they're wiped before the next season I think that will take a lot of power out of the system. If it's 12 months or more the deterence will be far higher as teams might be reluctant to hire a driver who might get a ban at any minute
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Laura23 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113501
To me it sounds like the boy just can't take responsibility for anything which IMO is really rather scary in a sport as dangerous as this one.

Exactly.

It didn't stop Lewis/Nico race and all the other drivers from racing its just idiot Maldonado that needs to sort his crap out. Only have to look at the two incidents during 2 practise sessions. His head isn't right for F1.

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How Maldonado hasn't been banned is beyond me.

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I just found this on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt5nt7IdyPs

please someone explain to me, apart from his sponsorship money, how is this guy in F1?

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owenmahamilton wrote:I just found this on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt5nt7IdyPs

please someone explain to me, apart from his sponsorship money, how is this guy in F1?


Good grief that's absolutely appalling! Have not seen that before, and just when i thought my opinion of this loon couldn't be any lower. :x

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There's another one online somewhere when PM is in one of the lower formulas; he's side-by-side with another car (or maybe 2) coming out of a corner, and just suddenly changes direction and takes himself and another car off the circuit and out of the race. Mental. I'll have a better search for it.


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