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Leo Turrini : Stefano Domenicali has resigned. Mr Mattiacci to take over


EDIT: added a question mark in the topic subject

EDIT2: removed a question mark :)
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Can you provide a clearer source than that? A link would be nice.
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I don't have a concrete source right now, but I can confirm the rumour is rife across the majority of the F1 journalists on twitter. Will look for confirmation.

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He joins Whitmarsh then.

F1 is turning very flowery :)

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Even if its not a reliable source, I believe them completely

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Wow, I did not expect a midseason change. This is definitely huge, but I'm not sure there'e any real immediate benefit other than to grab the headlines.

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if I could I would :) but normally Leo is pretty good on this kind of thing. He can joke and talk a bit of BS, but not on this subject. So far everyone quotes him
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Denorth wrote:if I could I would :) but normally Leo is pretty good on this kind of thing. He can joke and talk a bit of BS, but not on this subject. So far everyone quotes him

I agree. Not good news for Kimi I fear

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halsted wrote:Wow, I did not expect a midseason change.


I think a midseason change is best when you don't expect the season to take a turn for the better. That way everything can be set up to have a proper 2015 campaign, instead of letting a person/people in which you have lost faith continue. After all, the second half of this year is probably the key period for the 2015 campaign.
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mds wrote:
halsted wrote:Wow, I did not expect a midseason change.


I think a midseason change is best when you don't expect the season to take a turn for the better. That way everything can be set up to have a proper 2015 campaign, instead of letting a person/people in which you have lost faith continue. After all, the second half of this year is probably the key period for the 2015 campaign.

Yes, it does suggest that they are already now looking to 2015

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Lol imagine Whitmarsh and Domenicali working together at a new team next season

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Twitter is going crazy with this... and wikipedia has already edited Domenicali's page (adding "former") it seems its true folks... YAY!!

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Zoue wrote:
mds wrote:
halsted wrote:Wow, I did not expect a midseason change.


I think a midseason change is best when you don't expect the season to take a turn for the better. That way everything can be set up to have a proper 2015 campaign, instead of letting a person/people in which you have lost faith continue. After all, the second half of this year is probably the key period for the 2015 campaign.

Yes, it does suggest that they are already now looking to 2015


But they would only sack domenicali if they had someone waiting in the wings right? I don't know, sacking SD only to promote this Matticiacci (unknown to me) sounds like a case of firing for the sake of firing. I would've thought they'd have someone more high profile take over. Like with Whitmarsh, mclaren had boullier step in with immediate effect.

maybe there's still another domino to fall, but at first blush, this move feels kinda short sighted

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halsted wrote:But they would only sack domenicali if they had someone waiting in the wings right? I don't know, sacking SD only to promote this Matticiacci sounds like a case of firing for the sake of firing. Like with Whitmarsh, mclaren had boullier step in with immediate effect.

maybe there's still another domino to fall, but at first blush, this move feels kinda short sighted


The quote says he has resigned, if accurate, maybe it took Ferrari by surprise?

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Wth? Is this someone to replace SD so that Briatore can take over soon?

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M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:He joins Whitmarsh then.

F1 is turning very flowery :)

It's running a risk of turning in to Football, where managers get sacked just like that. Most of the time though replacing the manager makes no difference in the teams performance/results.

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Ev0lutionz wrote:Wth? Is this someone to replace SD so that Briatore can take over soon?

I don't know that they'd need Mattiacci for that, though? Why not just put Briatore straight in if he was the intended replacement?

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So Ferrari vs Sauber for 8th in the constructors next year.

Seriously though, I don't think Domenicali was the problem. Or not the whole problem anyway. It will be interesting to see how results will be effected if true.
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AngusWolfe wrote:So Ferrari vs Sauber for 8th in the constructors next year.

Seriously though, I don't think Domenicali was the problem. Or not the whole problem anyway. It will be interesting to see how results will be effected if true.

I agree. But as somebody said on another thread it's probably more to do with LdM asserting his authority than any direct reflection on Domenicali's own performance. I strongly suspect Domenicali's just been made a scapegoat

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Teddy007 wrote:
M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:He joins Whitmarsh then.

F1 is turning very flowery :)

It's running a risk of turning in to Football, where managers get sacked just like that. Most of the time though replacing the manager makes no difference in the teams performance/results.


To be fair, in football a top team that doesn't get good results will replace the coach way, way sooner than 4 years. More like half a season at best.
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mds wrote:
Teddy007 wrote:
M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:He joins Whitmarsh then.

F1 is turning very flowery :)

It's running a risk of turning in to Football, where managers get sacked just like that. Most of the time though replacing the manager makes no difference in the teams performance/results.


To be fair, in football a top team that doesn't get good results will replace the coach way, way sooner than 4 years. More like half a season at best.

I think that was Teddy's point.

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"Apparently Luca di Montezemolo recently agreed a three-year extension to his Ferrari deal, so he won't be going any time soon"

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So did he jump or was he pushed?

I fear, he has been turned into another Ferrari scapegoat.
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nixxxon wrote:Twitter is going crazy with this... and wikipedia has already edited Domenicali's page (adding "former") it seems its true folks... YAY!!


I hope you know that this will make very little difference to Ferrari, and that this time next year, you'll probably be asking for the new guys head on a stick as well.
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mds wrote:
Teddy007 wrote:
M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:He joins Whitmarsh then.

F1 is turning very flowery :)

It's running a risk of turning in to Football, where managers get sacked just like that. Most of the time though replacing the manager makes no difference in the teams performance/results.


To be fair, in football a top team that doesn't get good results will replace the coach way, way sooner than 4 years. More like half a season at best.

A manager of a football team has far more influence on matters on the picth , than a team principal on the track. He is the equivalent of a football team's CEO and most CEO's either see out their contract or resign. They rarely get the sack.

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nixxxon wrote:Twitter is going crazy with this... and wikipedia has already edited Domenicali's page (adding "former") it seems its true folks... YAY!!

Anyone can edit wiki mate!

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sandyf1 wrote:
mds wrote:
Teddy007 wrote:
M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:He joins Whitmarsh then.

F1 is turning very flowery :)

It's running a risk of turning in to Football, where managers get sacked just like that. Most of the time though replacing the manager makes no difference in the teams performance/results.


To be fair, in football a top team that doesn't get good results will replace the coach way, way sooner than 4 years. More like half a season at best.

A manager of a football team has far more influence on matters on the picth , than a team principal on the track. He is the equivalent of a football team's CEO and most CEO's either see out their contract or resign. They rarely get the sack.


Wouldn't you rather compare Montezemolo with a football team's manager and Domenicali with the coach?

I now see I read Teddy007's post wrong. I thought he meant the coach instead of the manager. Agree with you in that the manager (or Montezomolo) aren't usually replaced just like that.
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Reported by Gazzetta, as good as official now:

http://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/14-04- ... 1753.shtml


Replacement is apparently Marco Mattiacci, current head of North America Ferrari division.

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This is the start of what I expect to be a painful few years for Ferrari
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Apparently Luca di Montezemolo recently agreed a three-year extension to his Ferrari deal, so he won't be going any time soon

Wow, its very rare that adam replies to me.

He said Luca extended himself when i asked him whether it was SD or the new fella.

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Clarky wrote:
nixxxon wrote:Twitter is going crazy with this... and wikipedia has already edited Domenicali's page (adding "former") it seems its true folks... YAY!!

Anyone can edit wiki mate!

Exactly. Wikipedia was wrong on many occasions. On one occasion some decided to ignore all FIA documents and make up facts to suit their concept of article.
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Also reported by Repubblica, Corriere and just about every major italian newspaper.

According to the Autosprint article, Domenicali had already previously decided to leave the position by the end of the year, but he chose to leave earlier due to the current lack of results and essentially to offer himself as a scapegoat.

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mds wrote:
sandyf1 wrote:
mds wrote:
Teddy007 wrote:
M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:He joins Whitmarsh then.

F1 is turning very flowery :)

It's running a risk of turning in to Football, where managers get sacked just like that. Most of the time though replacing the manager makes no difference in the teams performance/results.


To be fair, in football a top team that doesn't get good results will replace the coach way, way sooner than 4 years. More like half a season at best.

A manager of a football team has far more influence on matters on the picth , than a team principal on the track. He is the equivalent of a football team's CEO and most CEO's either see out their contract or resign. They rarely get the sack.


Wouldn't you rather compare Montezemolo with a football team's manager and Domenicali with the coach?

I now see I read Teddy007's post wrong. I thought he meant the coach instead of the manager. Agree with you in that the manager (or Montezomolo) aren't usually replaced just like that.

Domenicali does not design the car. He does not plan strategies during a race. He just hires people usually based on the recommendation of the technical director and inks contracts with various suppliers. His only possible major role is in hiring the drivers and that too is usually montezemolo's call. The technical director is the manager of an F1 team IMO and so if anyone deserves the sack it is Pat Fry.

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Oke, it seems to be true. Shame, but thank god Biatore isn't back.
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I'm told that Stefano Domenicali's departure, and take over by Marco Mattiacci, is about to be formally confirmed

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CONFIRMED HE HAS STEPPED DOWN...!

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Clarky wrote:CONFIRMED HE HAS STEPPED DOWN...!


Where has it been confirmed?

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sandyf1 wrote:
mds wrote:
sandyf1 wrote:
mds wrote:
Teddy007 wrote:It's running a risk of turning in to Football, where managers get sacked just like that. Most of the time though replacing the manager makes no difference in the teams performance/results.


To be fair, in football a top team that doesn't get good results will replace the coach way, way sooner than 4 years. More like half a season at best.

A manager of a football team has far more influence on matters on the picth , than a team principal on the track. He is the equivalent of a football team's CEO and most CEO's either see out their contract or resign. They rarely get the sack.


Wouldn't you rather compare Montezemolo with a football team's manager and Domenicali with the coach?

I now see I read Teddy007's post wrong. I thought he meant the coach instead of the manager. Agree with you in that the manager (or Montezomolo) aren't usually replaced just like that.

Domenicali does not design the car. He does not plan strategies during a race. He just hires people usually based on the recommendation of the technical director and inks contracts with various suppliers. His only possible major role is in hiring the drivers and that too is usually montezemolo's call. The technical director is the manager of an F1 team IMO and so if anyone deserves the sack it is Pat Fry.


I think you're greatly diminishing the role of a TP. It's up to Domenicali to run the team in that all falls into place well, both on and off track. Sure he'll delegate like any high-placed person, but he bears a lot of responsibility.
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