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Launch Date:

Aston Martin - 10th February
McLaren - 11th February
Ferrari - 17th February
Mercedes - 18th February
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Aston Martin has become the first team to announce the launch date for AMR22.
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Mike Krakk, former head of BMW motorsports will be the new Team Principal for Aston Martin:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... TwIHf.html
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A list showing what the F1 drivers will be earning in 2022. The salaries don't include performance bonuses & sponsor payouts. (Some drivers out there are a good bargain! Stroll getting $10m????!!!!)

DRIVER / TEAM / SALARY (in $ Million) / CONTRACT LENGHT

Hamilton / Mercedes / 40 / 2023
Verstappen / Red Bull / 25 / 2023
Alonso / Alpine / 20 / 2022
Vettel / Aston Martin / 15 / 2022 +
Ricciardo / McLaren / 15 / 2023 +
Leclerc / Ferrari / 12 / 2024
Sainz / Ferrari / 10 / 2022 +
Bottas / Alfa Romeo / 10 / 2025
Stroll / Aston Martin / 10 / Open
Perez / Red Bull / 8 / 2022
Russell / Mercedes / 5 / 2023
Norris / McLaren / 5 / 2025 +
Ocon / Alpine / 5 / 2024
Gasly / AlphaTauri / 5 / 2023
Albon / Williams / 2 / 2022 + (Red Bull)
Zhou / Alfa Romeo / 1 / 2022
Schumacher / Haas / 1 / 2022 + (Ferrari)
Mazepin / Haas / 1 / 2022
Latifi / Williams / 1 / 2022
Tsunoda / AlphaTauri / 0.75 / 2022 +
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UnlikeUday wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:23 pm
A list showing what the F1 drivers will be earning in 2022. The salaries don't include performance bonuses & sponsor payouts. (Some drivers out there are a good bargain! Stroll getting $10m????!!!!)

DRIVER / TEAM / SALARY (in $ Million) / CONTRACT LENGHT

Hamilton / Mercedes / 40 / 2023
Verstappen / Red Bull / 25 / 2023
Alonso / Alpine / 20 / 2022
Vettel / Aston Martin / 15 / 2022 +
Ricciardo / McLaren / 15 / 2023 +
Leclerc / Ferrari / 12 / 2024
Sainz / Ferrari / 10 / 2022 +
Bottas / Alfa Romeo / 10 / 2025
Stroll / Aston Martin / 10 / Open
Perez / Red Bull / 8 / 2022
Russell / Mercedes / 5 / 2023
Norris / McLaren / 5 / 2025 +
Ocon / Alpine / 5 / 2024
Gasly / AlphaTauri / 5 / 2023
Albon / Williams / 2 / 2022 + (Red Bull)
Zhou / Alfa Romeo / 1 / 2022
Schumacher / Haas / 1 / 2022 + (Ferrari)
Mazepin / Haas / 1 / 2022
Latifi / Williams / 1 / 2022
Tsunoda / AlphaTauri / 0.75 / 2022 +
George Russell and Lando Norris need better agents.

The most interesting thing is, with Sainz contract up at the end of this year I can't see jhow Ferrari keep him without making him then higher paid driver. He'll be in demand.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:59 pm
UnlikeUday wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:23 pm
A list showing what the F1 drivers will be earning in 2022. The salaries don't include performance bonuses & sponsor payouts. (Some drivers out there are a good bargain! Stroll getting $10m????!!!!)

DRIVER / TEAM / SALARY (in $ Million) / CONTRACT LENGHT

Hamilton / Mercedes / 40 / 2023
Verstappen / Red Bull / 25 / 2023
Alonso / Alpine / 20 / 2022
Vettel / Aston Martin / 15 / 2022 +
Ricciardo / McLaren / 15 / 2023 +
Leclerc / Ferrari / 12 / 2024
Sainz / Ferrari / 10 / 2022 +
Bottas / Alfa Romeo / 10 / 2025
Stroll / Aston Martin / 10 / Open
Perez / Red Bull / 8 / 2022
Russell / Mercedes / 5 / 2023
Norris / McLaren / 5 / 2025 +
Ocon / Alpine / 5 / 2024
Gasly / AlphaTauri / 5 / 2023
Albon / Williams / 2 / 2022 + (Red Bull)
Zhou / Alfa Romeo / 1 / 2022
Schumacher / Haas / 1 / 2022 + (Ferrari)
Mazepin / Haas / 1 / 2022
Latifi / Williams / 1 / 2022
Tsunoda / AlphaTauri / 0.75 / 2022 +
George Russell and Lando Norris need better agents.

The most interesting thing is, with Sainz contract up at the end of this year I can't see jhow Ferrari keep him without making him then higher paid driver. He'll be in demand.
If Ferrari don’t build a great car this year and Aston/Alpine do, then Ferrari will have an issue in keeping him. Mercedes I guess could take him too if Hamilton calls it a day.

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JN23 wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:03 pm
mikeyg123 wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:59 pm
UnlikeUday wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:23 pm
A list showing what the F1 drivers will be earning in 2022. The salaries don't include performance bonuses & sponsor payouts. (Some drivers out there are a good bargain! Stroll getting $10m????!!!!)

DRIVER / TEAM / SALARY (in $ Million) / CONTRACT LENGHT

Hamilton / Mercedes / 40 / 2023
Verstappen / Red Bull / 25 / 2023
Alonso / Alpine / 20 / 2022
Vettel / Aston Martin / 15 / 2022 +
Ricciardo / McLaren / 15 / 2023 +
Leclerc / Ferrari / 12 / 2024
Sainz / Ferrari / 10 / 2022 +
Bottas / Alfa Romeo / 10 / 2025
Stroll / Aston Martin / 10 / Open
Perez / Red Bull / 8 / 2022
Russell / Mercedes / 5 / 2023
Norris / McLaren / 5 / 2025 +
Ocon / Alpine / 5 / 2024
Gasly / AlphaTauri / 5 / 2023
Albon / Williams / 2 / 2022 + (Red Bull)
Zhou / Alfa Romeo / 1 / 2022
Schumacher / Haas / 1 / 2022 + (Ferrari)
Mazepin / Haas / 1 / 2022
Latifi / Williams / 1 / 2022
Tsunoda / AlphaTauri / 0.75 / 2022 +
George Russell and Lando Norris need better agents.

The most interesting thing is, with Sainz contract up at the end of this year I can't see jhow Ferrari keep him without making him then higher paid driver. He'll be in demand.
If Ferrari don’t build a great car this year and Aston/Alpine do, then Ferrari will have an issue in keeping him. Mercedes I guess could take him too if Hamilton calls it a day.
Assuming he has a great season again he will likely be the most desirable available driver with just about every team having a seat to fill with someone if Hamilton retires.

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UnlikeUday wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:23 pm
A list showing what the F1 drivers will be earning in 2022. The salaries don't include performance bonuses & sponsor payouts. (Some drivers out there are a good bargain! Stroll getting $10m????!!!!)

DRIVER / TEAM / SALARY (in $ Million) / CONTRACT LENGHT

Hamilton / Mercedes / 40 / 2023
Verstappen / Red Bull / 25 / 2023
Alonso / Alpine / 20 / 2022
Vettel / Aston Martin / 15 / 2022 +
Ricciardo / McLaren / 15 / 2023 +
Leclerc / Ferrari / 12 / 2024
Sainz / Ferrari / 10 / 2022 +
Bottas / Alfa Romeo / 10 / 2025
Stroll / Aston Martin / 10 / Open
Perez / Red Bull / 8 / 2022
Russell / Mercedes / 5 / 2023
Norris / McLaren / 5 / 2025 +
Ocon / Alpine / 5 / 2024
Gasly / AlphaTauri / 5 / 2023
Albon / Williams / 2 / 2022 + (Red Bull)
Zhou / Alfa Romeo / 1 / 2022
Schumacher / Haas / 1 / 2022 + (Ferrari)
Mazepin / Haas / 1 / 2022
Latifi / Williams / 1 / 2022
Tsunoda / AlphaTauri / 0.75 / 2022 +
Source?

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Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:50 pm
UnlikeUday wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:23 pm
A list showing what the F1 drivers will be earning in 2022. The salaries don't include performance bonuses & sponsor payouts. (Some drivers out there are a good bargain! Stroll getting $10m????!!!!)

DRIVER / TEAM / SALARY (in $ Million) / CONTRACT LENGHT

Hamilton / Mercedes / 40 / 2023
Verstappen / Red Bull / 25 / 2023
Alonso / Alpine / 20 / 2022
Vettel / Aston Martin / 15 / 2022 +
Ricciardo / McLaren / 15 / 2023 +
Leclerc / Ferrari / 12 / 2024
Sainz / Ferrari / 10 / 2022 +
Bottas / Alfa Romeo / 10 / 2025
Stroll / Aston Martin / 10 / Open
Perez / Red Bull / 8 / 2022
Russell / Mercedes / 5 / 2023
Norris / McLaren / 5 / 2025 +
Ocon / Alpine / 5 / 2024
Gasly / AlphaTauri / 5 / 2023
Albon / Williams / 2 / 2022 + (Red Bull)
Zhou / Alfa Romeo / 1 / 2022
Schumacher / Haas / 1 / 2022 + (Ferrari)
Mazepin / Haas / 1 / 2022
Latifi / Williams / 1 / 2022
Tsunoda / AlphaTauri / 0.75 / 2022 +
Source?
This was put up by Racingnews365. They also mentioned this:
'Various sources within the F1 paddock and across teams were consulted in order to make the list as reliable as possible. All salaries exclude performance bonuses and income from personal sponsors. Meanwhile, drivers with a + behind their contract have an option to extend.'
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkNLFy-lQXg

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UnlikeUday wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:45 am
Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:50 pm
UnlikeUday wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:23 pm
A list showing what the F1 drivers will be earning in 2022. The salaries don't include performance bonuses & sponsor payouts. (Some drivers out there are a good bargain! Stroll getting $10m????!!!!)

DRIVER / TEAM / SALARY (in $ Million) / CONTRACT LENGHT

Hamilton / Mercedes / 40 / 2023
Verstappen / Red Bull / 25 / 2023
Alonso / Alpine / 20 / 2022
Vettel / Aston Martin / 15 / 2022 +
Ricciardo / McLaren / 15 / 2023 +
Leclerc / Ferrari / 12 / 2024
Sainz / Ferrari / 10 / 2022 +
Bottas / Alfa Romeo / 10 / 2025
Stroll / Aston Martin / 10 / Open
Perez / Red Bull / 8 / 2022
Russell / Mercedes / 5 / 2023
Norris / McLaren / 5 / 2025 +
Ocon / Alpine / 5 / 2024
Gasly / AlphaTauri / 5 / 2023
Albon / Williams / 2 / 2022 + (Red Bull)
Zhou / Alfa Romeo / 1 / 2022
Schumacher / Haas / 1 / 2022 + (Ferrari)
Mazepin / Haas / 1 / 2022
Latifi / Williams / 1 / 2022
Tsunoda / AlphaTauri / 0.75 / 2022 +
Source?
This was put up by Racingnews365. They also mentioned this:
'Various sources within the F1 paddock and across teams were consulted in order to make the list as reliable as possible. All salaries exclude performance bonuses and income from personal sponsors. Meanwhile, drivers with a + behind their contract have an option to extend.'
Ah, so it is estimations.

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The 1st test at Barcelona from 23rd-25th February won't be allowing any spectators in attendance due to the Covid scene in Spain.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/barcelona ... sed-doors/
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Haas released a few renders of the '21 livery on the '22 car. This isn't an official launch though!

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Budkowski gone from Alpine.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/995305/1/ ... ne-f1-team

In totally unrelated news, word is Ottmar Szafnauer was spotted walking around his local his Renault dealership on the weekend.
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UnlikeUday wrote:
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Haas released a few renders of the '21 livery on the '22 car. This isn't an official launch though!

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I am still puzzled that Haas was and is allowed to run a Russian flag livery. Haas & FIA showing a stinking finger to the anti-doping movement.

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Russell just spent his first day as an official Mercedes driver at Brackley. Hopefully, he'll see his teammate soon enough...
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Ferrari will be launching their car on 17th February.
https://racingnews365.com/ferrari-revea ... 022-f1-car
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McLaren will reveal their car on 11th February.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-a ... ate-mcl36/
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With Prost out, it's about time Otmar S.will be announced. Since BWT is strongly rumoured to join Alpine, the car may be completely Pink or have a fair amount of Pink on the livery.
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As per one or two F1 websites, the FP1& FP2sessions will revert back to 90-minute duration this year.
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UnlikeUday wrote:
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As per one or twoF1 websites, the FP1& FP2sessions will revert back to 90-minute duration this year.
I though FP1/2 sessions being an hour was a good move generally because it meant there was almost always action, and teams still got their work done (according to James Allison) in that time, it just meant they didn’t sit in the pits at the start of the session for a while. Red flags cause more issues though.

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Mercedes will reveal their car on 18th February!
https://www.racefans.net/2022/01/18/mer ... uary-18th/
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18th February for the Mercedes W13

https://twitter.com/mercedesamgf1/statu ... 14081?s=21
The only question is will it be revealed in the presence of Sir Lewis Hamilton?
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JN23 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:52 am
UnlikeUday wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:52 am
As per one or twoF1 websites, the FP1& FP2sessions will revert back to 90-minute duration this year.
I though FP1/2 sessions being an hour was a good move generally because it meant there was almost always action, and teams still got their work done (according to James Allison) in that time, it just meant they didn’t sit in the pits at the start of the session for a while. Red flags cause more issues though.
Agreed. I don't see why they don't specify up to 60 mins running time within a 90 mins window. That would allow up to 30 mins for any red flag delays.

Having said that, for GPs with sprint races, quali is straight after FP1, so maybe a full 90 mins FP1 for those events is a good idea. And I guess they all have to be the same as far as possible..
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tim3003 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:39 am
JN23 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:52 am
UnlikeUday wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:52 am
As per one or twoF1 websites, the FP1& FP2sessions will revert back to 90-minute duration this year.
I though FP1/2 sessions being an hour was a good move generally because it meant there was almost always action, and teams still got their work done (according to James Allison) in that time, it just meant they didn’t sit in the pits at the start of the session for a while. Red flags cause more issues though.
Agreed. I don't see why they don't specify up to 60 mins running time within a 90 mins window. That would allow up to 30 mins for any red flag delays.

Having said that, for GPs with sprint races, quali is straight after FP1, so maybe a full 90 mins FP1 for those events is a good idea. And I guess they all have to be the same as far as possible..
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Yeah 60 mins running in a 90 min window would work.

I don’t think it needs to be the same, at the end of the day teams have 180 mins practice on a normal weekend but only 120 on a sprint weekend. So I don’t see why FP1 on a sprint weekend couldn’t be 90 mins.

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Zak Brown has said there is a danger of there being no sprint races this year due to a dispute over the budget cap. I’m guessing they’ll find a compromise, but basically they need eight teams to agree to the change but it seems some want a larger budget cap.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60036659

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I hope the sprint race plan gets thrown out entirely, regardless of budget.
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JN23 wrote:
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Zak Brown has said there is a danger of there being no sprint races this year due to a dispute over the budget cap. I’m guessing they’ll find a compromise, but basically they need eight teams to agree to the change but it seems some want a larger budget cap.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60036659
No sprint races - that would be so sad! :-D

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Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:01 am
JN23 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:29 pm
Zak Brown has said there is a danger of there being no sprint races this year due to a dispute over the budget cap. I’m guessing they’ll find a compromise, but basically they need eight teams to agree to the change but it seems some want a larger budget cap.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60036659
No sprint races - that would be so sad! :-D
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A French magazine's perception of Alpine this year:

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It is strongly believed Ferrari has gone for a more aggressive nose design. They also have opted for a pull rod suspension & not a push rod one.
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