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egnat69

You seem to be repeating what I already said, what I was questioning is when you said that if Red Bull pulled out of F1 they could stop their contracted drivers from driving for other F1 teams. i think that has been discussed at the very beginning of this thread... the contract would need to have a...

egnat69

it all is just a thinking exercise after all... i really have no indication or reason to believe that mateschitz or red bull are thinking about such a series, but if they were, i think f1 is now very vulnerable on many different levels. much more than it was when the last pirate series was talked a...

egnat69

Covalent wrote:On my phone, can't figure out what went wrong with the quotes.

i can't either... it seems to be all correct... if i quote your reply, in preview it all looks correct...

egnat69

Why exactly would a contending series not be allowed to race around circuits like Spa? As far as I'm aware, F1 does not own these circuits. It was said last time a breakaway series looked likely that any track hosting them would not have another GP. they threatened to take the FIA status away from ...

egnat69

Just thought of a down side to this. After the way Red Bull has behaved in F1, would anyone be stupi.. err, willing to enter a series where they make and enforce the rules? considering how the current governing body has set up and enforced the rules (promising cost caps and lower costs for a decade...

egnat69

fair enough... just a quick update on the bold section: ferrari an mercedes have told the FIA that 8 million for 1-year old engines is not enough and they can and will not supply them for that money. the fia wanted to introduce a customer cost cap: 8 million for year-old, 12 for new spec engines......

egnat69

shoot999 wrote:
Clarky wrote:DONE DEAL - superb deal for Manor

http://www.mercedesamgf1.com/en/news/20 ... ouncement/

so that is kind of an official statement that Lotus will run Renault engines, right?

egnat69

Thumbsuck prediction: Redbull relinquishes control and naming rights, Andretti buys team with 2015 Ferrari engine deal Drivers: DR,DK FP1 driver: Marco Andretti STR bought by a Middle Eastern consortium or private equity firm, retains customer Renault engines toward a 2017 Mercedes deal. Drivers: M...

egnat69

wasn't there an engine rule in place that suppliers had to supply engines to customers over the works team? I thought there was a rule in place? no... there will be one from 2017 - at least that is the plan. it is supposed to be like it was with tyres. a manufacturer will have to supply at least 3 ...

egnat69

A cheap F1-like series (in terms of competitiveness and speed) would have the potential to be a big hit if it could pick up some classic tracks to race on and some alright drivers to start off with. I think a lot of people would stop being angry about spec cars if it was good, quick racing at good ...

egnat69

I'd love to see this use screaming V8's or V10's with a support series that uses 2.4L turbo V6's. That would really be shoving it in F1's face Man I LOVE your idea! That's one way to stuff these ridiculous V-6's down the FIA's throat. wouldn't you need the FIA to sanction this new racing series? :u...

egnat69

Why is it Red Bull that is funding this entire proposed venture? In a realistic sense it seems like an awfully risky and costly venture to undertake when there are far safer - perhaps even more effective - ways to advertise their brand. well.. the status quo for me was: Red Bull was linked numerous...

egnat69

With a lot of irons in the fire, is it maybe time RB had their own TV channel or web based channel? The cost of this is small in comparison to what RB spend on advertising, and a lot could be recovered from venues and sponsors of venues and participants. If the venue gave brake even, a sponsored pr...

egnat69

With a lot of irons in the fire, is it maybe time RB had their own TV channel or web based channel? The cost of this is small in comparison to what RB spend on advertising, and a lot could be recovered from venues and sponsors of venues and participants. If the venue gave brake even, a sponsored pr...

egnat69

this has been tried and failed. Great concept great idea but it won't work for 1 reason. F1 the rights to the name F1 belong to the FIA and I think the FIA gave all rights (marketing etc) to Bernie (CVC) with a long term contract something like 99 or 999 years some crazy term. Further this new seri...

egnat69

Yes I know some say F1 is full of clowns, but... The whole experience. Dont just turn up with a class of cars turn up with the whole lot from FF level to F1 equivalent (F ultimate?). Red bull have the nouse to do this in conjunction with others. Classic tracks with classic cars for a reasonable cos...

egnat69

A cheap F1-like series (in terms of competitiveness and speed) would have the potential to be a big hit if it could pick up some classic tracks to race on and some alright drivers to start off with. I think a lot of people would stop being angry about spec cars if it was good, quick racing at good ...

egnat69

this has been tried and failed. Great concept great idea but it won't work for 1 reason. F1 the rights to the name F1 belong to the FIA and I think the FIA gave all rights (marketing etc) to Bernie (CVC) with a long term contract something like 99 or 999 years some crazy term. Further this new seri...

egnat69

Enter Red Bull? i will not argue against them having triggered those thoughts... in the end, they (even under Red Bull ownership) have knowledge of 3 engine concepts (where the IP could probably easily be bought from Cosworth) as well as the IP to different chassis to accomodate those engines plus ...

egnat69

Can this all be a smokescreen for leaving F1? Think about this, the Renault engine really won't get an update until the next race or so from what Renault is saying, yet RB has been quick the last few GP's....hmmmm and then RB goes blasts Renault and that relationship ends....they go to MB and the s...

egnat69

Can this all be a smokescreen for leaving F1? Think about this, the Renault engine really won't get an update until the next race or so from what Renault is saying, yet RB has been quick the last few GP's....hmmmm and then RB goes blasts Renault and that relationship ends....they go to MB and the s...

egnat69

Thumbsuck prediction: Redbull relinquishes control and naming rights, Andretti buys team with 2015 Ferrari engine deal Drivers: DR,DK FP1 driver: Marco Andretti STR bought by a Middle Eastern consortium or private equity firm, retains customer Renault engines toward a 2017 Mercedes deal. Drivers: M...

egnat69

this has been tried and failed. Great concept great idea but it won't work for 1 reason. F1 the rights to the name F1 belong to the FIA and I think the FIA gave all rights (marketing etc) to Bernie (CVC) with a long term contract something like 99 or 999 years some crazy term. Further this new seri...

egnat69

I think the problem would be the same as last time. The new series would not be allowed to use the same tracks. If they could get it sanctioned, why not have a " Super GP2 " for 2 years with the option of contesting teams then moving to the new series on the third year? It would not then have all t...

egnat69

Enter Red Bull? i will not argue against them having triggered those thoughts... in the end, they (even under Red Bull ownership) have knowledge of 3 engine concepts (where the IP could probably easily be bought from Cosworth) as well as the IP to different chassis to accomodate those engines plus ...

egnat69

I know, that pirate-series from a couple of years ago would never have happened... teams would not have been able to agree on regulations and i think the FIA had quite a leverage on the circuits... but what if this is not going to be a carbon-copy of f1, but rather a new concept that is just quite c...

egnat69

Thumbsuck prediction: Redbull relinquishes control and naming rights, Andretti buys team with 2015 Ferrari engine deal Drivers: DR,DK FP1 driver: Marco Andretti STR bought by a Middle Eastern consortium or private equity firm, retains customer Renault engines toward a 2017 Mercedes deal. Drivers: M...

egnat69

Id love to see an engine manufacturer partner up with someone like Tesla providing the electrical side of it; it'd be one hell of an expensive project but the scope for what could be achieved in development would be amazing. hybrid racing systems are probably way more advanced than what tesla is wo...

egnat69

Any failure in those cars would put human lifes to risk. Driving is easy. People are not stupid, they can drive and they have to drive because they will always be way more intelligent than a programmed computer . Any unexpected thing would make those things crash (for example, an animal crossing th...

egnat69

How is it that Ferrari are the villians of this piece, when Merc didn't offer to supply anything? What's to stop Ferrari just saying 'No'as well. How is that any different to Merc saying no? And why aren't Merc being held up as chickens, they aren't doing anything to help the situation. If RB do ex...

egnat69

I remember debating this a couple of weeks ago - that Red Bull may have snookered themselves into having to vote for a rule change to receive older spec engines. egnat69 I recall you agreeing that it was a plausible situation. And here we are seemingly with Red Bull and Ferrari still at some sort o...

egnat69

But Red Bull do nit have a contract or agreement for Ferrari to supply engines. They did not sign up expecting anything, which changed because ( as far as we know) nothing was agreed. Had there been an agreement, and the product was changed, or was not as advertised, they would have a point. As the...

egnat69

Having said that, what would happen to the Milton Keynes team and the Faenza team? I mean I dont think they would disappear like that if they don't have any exit-clauses in their contracts, they will still be contracted to either RBR or STR... last thing we know is that Red Bull might not be sellin...

egnat69

But Red Bull do nit have a contract or agreement for Ferrari to supply engines. They did not sign up expecting anything, which changed because ( as far as we know) nothing was agreed. Had there been an agreement, and the product was changed, or was not as advertised, they would have a point. As the...

egnat69

Should Red Bull leave, where will we see the drivers end up? jamesalleenonf1.com ran a piece a couple of days ago on the situation at Red Bull. In the comments he was talking about the free for all that would eventuate should the pull out occur with drivers contracts. Where would you like to see th...

egnat69

An interesting twist might be (mentioned on James Allen's website): Red Bull pull out, devaluing F1 as there is only 9 teams. Then Red Bull purchase F1 from Bernie and CVC for less money than it is worth now. So I guess it would be like Red Bull air race. Then Red Bull could sell their teams to ree...

egnat69

so, come australia should we change the thread-title to "Yay! Renault Are at the Back"?

egnat69

If Red Bull can 'demand' a competitive engine then why shouldn't McLaren do the same? well... aren't they demanding a competitive engine? i think even more so than red bull... red bull are demanding a competitive engine that has the same spec as the one that the works team uses.... mclaren did have...

egnat69

Apple? Meh... what an overrated company. I'd say car industry companies only. Ford, and the return of Jaguar in F1. :D I guess that you haven't heard that they are making a car then... Just googled it, man they need to give me money to drive such a fugly car http://cdn.iphonehacks.com/wp-content/up...

egnat69

If Red Bull can 'demand' a competitive engine then why shouldn't McLaren do the same? well... aren't they demanding a competitive engine? i think even more so than red bull... red bull are demanding a competitive engine that has the same spec as the one that the works team uses.... mclaren did have...

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