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KingVoid

and Mercedes has worst form currently that Red bull had in 2019/20, based on: I view f1 non stop, and I can see. Red Bull was always good for 2nd/3rd in those years, while Mercedes needs to luck into even the podium. Mercedes clearly was the third best car early in 2022 (behind Ferrari and Red Bull...

KingVoid

Driver A teammates: Alonso, Kovalainen, Button, Rosberg, Bottas, Russell Driver B teammates: Sainz, Ricciardo, (Gasly), Albon, Perez (...) not a full season Take a driver of the same ability/quality: which teammate group would you expect him to dominate more strongly? I'm talking about Verstappen i...

KingVoid

of course I think it otherwise, Verstappen was best aleady in his mother's womb. Winning 3 races with the distant third best car, and outscoring both Leclerc and Vettel with a clearly inferior car, is quite a bit more impressive than winning 11 races out of 21 with a car that was easily the best ov...

KingVoid

nah, no way, he was best even before he was born. He was easily the best driver in 2019, more than happy to debate this with anyone who thinks otherwise. of course I think it otherwise, Verstappen was best aleady in his mother's womb. Winning 3 races with the distant third best car, and outscoring ...

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Ironically, just above that one, you posted how Verstappen moans in the exactly same way if it doesn't go well for him. (False claim about RB being a midfield car already rejected by others.) The difference is that while Verstappen moans about the handling of his car, he doesn't use that as an excu...

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Ironically, just above that one, you posted how Verstappen moans in the exactly same way if it doesn't go well for him. (False claim about RB being a midfield car already rejected by others.) The difference is that whilst moaning Verstappen drove the hell out of his car, won races in it and was so ...

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that or he is just doing a Vettel, and it will all shatter in a car built under different regulations. He was already the best driver in 2019, when the cars were completely different to now. nah, no way, he was best even before he was born. He was easily the best driver in 2019, more than happy to ...

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I really wish Verstappen goes to Merc, but looking at the way Toto is bending over backwards to bring Max to the team, I fear that under some pressure by Jos he may also give verstappen number 1 status on his contract, something Merc has never done, but Toto is looking desperate and is not acting r...

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Against my better judgement I'm going to re enter this discussion as a few people have brought up a Vettel comparison... You could see Vettel was going to be "found out" from a mile off. He was barely better than Webber in 2009, 2010 and the first half of 2012 and there is zero evidence to suggest ...

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Both cars tailored around Verstappen that's the similarity, that's something that Red Bull/Newey seem apt at same for Vettel, with other teams it can often be you make do with what you've got. How can a draggy car with mild understeer (2019) and a slippery car with a pointy front end (2023) both be...

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“Speaking after FP2, Hamilton reflected on his tricky session, explaining: “Yeah, a typical day, just lacking the confidence in the rear of the car. [With] the set-up we did some work session to session, changed quite a bit, but [there was still the] underlying issue with the rear end that I was st...

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“Speaking after FP2, Hamilton reflected on his tricky session, explaining: “Yeah, a typical day, just lacking the confidence in the rear of the car. [With] the set-up we did some work session to session, changed quite a bit, but [there was still the] underlying issue with the rear end that I was st...

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“Speaking after FP2, Hamilton reflected on his tricky session, explaining: “Yeah, a typical day, just lacking the confidence in the rear of the car. [With] the set-up we did some work session to session, changed quite a bit, but [there was still the] underlying issue with the rear end that I was str...

KingVoid

Verstappen would absolutely enhance his legacy by going to a different team and proving he can do it outside of Red Bull. There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strength...

KingVoid

Everyone who wants Max to “test” himself will get it soon enough, as the rumours are that he is joining Mercedes. I do wonder what the excuses will be when he inevitably turns Russell into another Albon. For starters the Mercedes won't handle like a Red Bull plus Newey won't be around, those advant...

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Our debate is not if Bottas is better than Max, but him being better than Perez, and Perez paints Max good with his inability. Long story short: 2021 was Bottas' worst against Lewis, he was unmotivated and sacked, obvious why you picked it for comparison. Dont know how Max beat Bottas in 2020, when...

KingVoid

Everyone who wants Max to “test” himself will get it soon enough, as the rumours are that he is joining Mercedes. I do wonder what the excuses will be when he inevitably turns Russell into another Albon. For starters the Mercedes won't handle like a Red Bull plus Newey won't be around, those advant...

KingVoid

Verstappen would absolutely enhance his legacy by going to a different team and proving he can do it outside of Red Bull. There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strength...

KingVoid

No amount of gaslighting from Verstappen detractors will convince anyone with a bit of intellectual honesty that a guy who matched Nico Hulkenberg over 3 years is a bad/slow driver and noticeably worse than Bottas. At Mercedes Bottas never had a car that he struggled to drive. And how do you know t...

KingVoid

No amount of gaslighting from Verstappen detractors will convince anyone with a bit of intellectual honesty that a guy who matched Nico Hulkenberg over 3 years is a bad/slow driver and noticeably worse than Bottas.

KingVoid

Our debate is not if Bottas is better than Max, but him being better than Perez, and Perez paints Max good with his inability. Long story short: 2021 was Bottas' worst against Lewis, he was unmotivated and sacked, obvious why you picked it for comparison. Dont know how Max beat Bottas in 2020, when...

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Our debate is not if Bottas is better than Max, but him being better than Perez, and Perez paints Max good with his inability. Long story short: 2021 was Bottas' worst against Lewis, he was unmotivated and sacked, obvious why you picked it for comparison. Dont know how Max beat Bottas in 2020, when...

KingVoid

Verstappen would absolutely enhance his legacy by going to a different team and proving he can do it outside of Red Bull. There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strength...

KingVoid

Everyone who wants Max to “test” himself will get it soon enough, as the rumours are that he is joining Mercedes. I do wonder what the excuses will be when he inevitably turns Russell into another Albon.

KingVoid

One thing that bothers me about the Max/Lewis debate is that many of the arguments for Lewis being better are not actually based on skill, but on legacy. For instance, Lewis has won a title for two different teams. Max has never had a realistic opportunity at achieving this. It’s not like he has an...

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Driving is one part of greatness but a very important part. I don’t see anything Lewis does better than Max at actually driving the car. I don’t think he’s as quick, or as relentless, or as consistent. Sprint qualy china, the moment rain fell down, Max fell to 4th. He is not the 2nd coming of jesus...

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Driving is one part of greatness but a very important part. I don’t see anything Lewis does better than Max at actually driving the car. I don’t think he’s as quick, or as relentless, or as consistent. Sprint qualy china, the moment rain fell down, Max fell to 4th. He is not the 2nd coming of jesus...

KingVoid

The hardest question to figure out right now is who the second best driver on the grid is. There really is no clear answer.

KingVoid

Terrible start to the season for Gasly, he should consider himself lucky that Alpine is incapable of scoring points so no one is noticing. I think he’ll come good though.

KingVoid

It’s very obvious at this point that Max set up his car to be as light on the tyres as possible

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I would say that Sainz's stock presently is higher, he's actually beating his teammate, also the fact he seems a lot closer to signing for Mercedes than Red Bull points to Perez being retained for next year. Verstappen himself said that Red Bull should recruit from within so that kind of rules out ...

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Ricciardo who was slower than Verstappen, what does that gain Mercedes, Mercedes wanted Verstappen not the slower driver. Did Mercedes pass on Alonso for next year, maybe Alonso decided that Aston Martin was the better option, I'm not reading that Mercedes turned him down. If Red Bull are looking f...

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You seemed to have explained it yourself in regards to legacy, weaker teammates and you don't get credit for beating a teammate you never had. In terms of titles with different teams, Verstappen chose to always drive for Red Bull. Hamilton moved when he lost faith in his own team, he didn’t move fo...

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One thing that bothers me about the Max/Lewis debate is that many of the arguments for Lewis being better are not actually based on skill, but on legacy. For instance, Lewis has won a title for two different teams. Max has never had a realistic opportunity at achieving this. It’s not like he has an...

KingVoid

One thing that bothers me about the Max/Lewis debate is that many of the arguments for Lewis being better are not actually based on skill, but on legacy. For instance, Lewis has won a title for two different teams. Max has never had a realistic opportunity at achieving this. It’s not like he has and...

KingVoid

That upside is completely immaterial if you first driver is delivering on all cylinders every single race. How many more races would Red Bull have won since the beginning of 2022 if another driver sat next to Verstappen? The races Red Bull lost to Ferrari in the first half of 2022 were because Ferr...

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Not much Verstappen can do about the so-called quality of his teammates when two of the best drivers on the grid (Alonso and Norris) are both too scared to face him. Is there a reliable source for Alonso turning down a Red Bull offer? Genuine question. Der Ex-Champion entschied sich damit für klare...

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2010 and 2012 were both fantastic races that have somehow been completely overshadowed by the generational race in 2011.

KingVoid

Not much Verstappen can do about the so-called quality of his teammates when two of the best drivers on the grid (Alonso and Norris) are both too scared to face him. Is there a reliable source for Alonso turning down a Red Bull offer? Genuine question. Der Ex-Champion entschied sich damit für klare...

KingVoid

Not much Verstappen can do about the so-called quality of his teammates when two of the best drivers on the grid (Alonso and Norris) are both too scared to face him.

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