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by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

As for the Mercedes may quit. There is plenty of evidence and opinion around the web on this and it has been put out elsewhere that Merc wanted a seat at the table with the counter argument from BE that Merc should show their seriousness by signing a big name (Hamilton). ... like, 'Michael Schumach...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

My understanding was that the key to unlocking Concorde was Hamilton. 'Telegraph sport understand that Mercedes are waiting for their board to sign off on the new Concorde agreement before making an official announcement regarding Hamilton.' Could be a coincidence I suppose? Since both of the thing...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:05 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Both signings galvanised both teams to up their game. That's a save position, poker. It does not require any explanation as what either of them did nor how exactly did they contribute in building the great car/team; they accomplished it merely by their divine presence. So, look! Vettel did that sam...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

I believe Hamilton was just one of many factors that convinced Mercedes board to stay in F1. That's it in my opinion. The car and engine were in development before Hamilton came there and later I doubt his arrival radical changed plans regarding engine and chassis design for 2014. yep, I'd go along...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

As was Kimi and Alonso what is your point the teams have a place for two drivers . Alonso is held in high regard as a driver but not a team player. McLaren considered moving Jenson or Magnussen to have him as part of their re-structuring of Mclaren. Despite his so called (disruptive nature) The Leg...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

As for the Mercedes may quit. There is plenty of evidence and opinion around the web on this and it has been put out elsewhere that Merc wanted a seat at the table with the counter argument from BE that Merc should show their seriousness by signing a big name (Hamilton). ... like, 'Michael Schumach...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

So you don't believe Mercedes have gained anything by having Lewis ? Was the decline of Mclaren was made worse by Lewis"s absence, we don't know but the teams seem to hold him in high regard, Perhaps because they work with him and have direct access to his telemetry which shows a clear difference i...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Zoue wrote: no worries - simple misunderstanding :)
Good, it's quite embarrassing actually
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

As for the Mercedes may quit. There is plenty of evidence and opinion around the web on this and it has been put out elsewhere that Merc wanted a seat at the table with the counter argument from BE that Merc should show their seriousness by signing a big name (Hamilton). ... like, 'Michael Schumach...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:55 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

My understanding was that the key to unlocking Concorde was Hamilton. 'Telegraph sport understand that Mercedes are waiting for their board to sign off on the new Concorde agreement before making an official announcement regarding Hamilton.' Could be a coincidence I suppose? Since both of the thing...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

As for the Mercedes may quit. There is plenty of evidence and opinion around the web on this and it has been put out elsewhere that Merc wanted a seat at the table with the counter argument from BE that Merc should show their seriousness by signing a big name (Hamilton). ... like, 'Michael Schumach...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Fair enough, but I'd still like to see some actual reasoning as to how Lewis has benefited Merc. Pokerman may be right that Bernie forced them to employ Lewis to gain the additional funding, but other than this?? So you don't believe Mercedes have gained anything by having Lewis ? Was the decline o...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:39 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

I still haven't found a clear description of why Mercedes would have been considering leaving F1 in 2012, when they had been developing the 2013 new engine concept for years, starting from before the initial deployment of KERS. (The new engines were then delayed by a year.) Also, I have not yet com...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Is the question directed at me ? If so what difference are you referring to ? My mistake :blush: , I thought you were one of those that believed Lewis 'made the difference' that resulted in Merc being so dominant in '14. I see... well my take on it is. Mercedes were a team in decline, they had slip...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Who has said serving time is what counts? That's your line, not mine. It's not the overall duration that counts, but the level of involvement. Schumacher was part of the Ferrari revitalisation program right from the start, whereas Lewis joined when it was all over bar the shouting. I don't know how...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:33 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 1007
Views: 364810

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

Very nostalgic, the pics have a James Dean/Steve McQueen feel about them
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:25 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2015 Feeder Series Uberthread
Replies: 554
Views: 95009

Re: 2015 Feeder Series Uberthread

In the DAMS car i would make him favourite for the title given his GP3 performances Depends a bit. Rowland is experienced with the car. Wouldn't surprise me if he builds an advantage early in the season, with Stoneman catching up in the second half of the season. I must admit i watched nothing of F...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:17 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: FIA F1 Superlicence system
Replies: 246
Views: 103758

Re: FIA F1 Superlicence system

Its got nothing to do with my understanding of the sport, or understanding where drivers come from. Your argument there is just ill informed and reading the wrong thing into what I am saying. Its just better for F1 to of this. This is a good move for F1 and a smart one. Don't blame me for understan...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

But apparently Hamilton is just another driver who turns up and drives the car :?
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:00 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

No, that's not quite true. Schumacher was one of the first of Todt's hires (followed by Brawn and Byrne). Lewis was one of the last for Mercedes. So Schumacher followed by Brawn and Byrne as opposed to Hamilton followed by Wolff and Lowe? Oh, God. Are their no lengths to which Hamilton supporters w...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:52 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Just asked: I said that with only Rosberg on board as driver, it won't be enough for them even winning both titles to be the "talked about Team" on the grid. With Lewis, they would have had the newspaper columns whatever the car pace is. McLaren signing with Montoya in 2003 had similar aims. Just r...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:48 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Well Hamilton had more than one option, he had McLaren or Mercedes. It seems people want to give Schumacher more credit because he served more time before the team started winning titles, I for one don't see the difference, either a driver can make a difference to the performance of a car or he can...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:43 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

I think through all the posts you missed the fact that 2014 for Mercedes might not have happened if they had not signed Hamilton , they were seriously considering quitting F1. Where is the credibility in that "fact"? Maybe it's the time to start taking some responsibility for what you are claiming ...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:38 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

My understanding is somewhat different. (although I may be wrong.) Mercedes wanted a seat at the top table but were drifting. BEs argument was youre not a top team, going nowhere, and could pull out of F1 anytime. The Merc response was that all the top engineers were locked into the big teams and i...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:36 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Who has said serving time is what counts? That's your line, not mine. It's not the overall duration that counts, but the level of involvement. Schumacher was part of the Ferrari revitalisation program right from the start, whereas Lewis joined when it was all over bar the shouting. I don't know how...
by pokerman
Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:34 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Well you have to ask yourself why were the likes of Brawn, Lauda and Fry so desperate to sign Hamilton You seem to have this habit of asking the rhetoric questions that you yourself actually do not have any concrete legitimate answer on it. It seems like that you think, just because such kind of qu...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

I think through all the posts you missed the fact that 2014 for Mercedes might not have happened if they had not signed Hamilton , they were seriously considering quitting F1. Where is the credibility in that "fact"? Maybe it's the time to start taking some responsibility for what you are claiming ...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

What doesn't surprise me is that you seem to know everything that we don't know. Well you have to ask yourself why were the likes of Brawn, Lauda and Fry so desperate to sign Hamilton Just asked: I said that with only Rosberg on board as driver, it won't be enough for them even winning both titles ...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:10 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

VDV23 wrote:
pokerman wrote: Not any top driver, the target was Lewis Hamilton
In other words, the only top driver on the market and the only one with an expiring contract you mean?
How many top drivers do you think there is?
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:05 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Well you have to ask yourself why were the likes of Brawn, Lauda and Fry so desperate to sign Hamilton You seem to have this habit of asking the rhetoric questions that you yourself actually do not have any concrete legitimate answer on it. It seems like that you think, just because such kind of qu...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

I suppose, Hamilton's racing abilities had been valued more than Rosberg's. That's why. I think they just didn't know how to rate Rosberg and they couldn't justify putting enormous investment in a Rosberg led Mercedes team Like, you got now "Hamilton led Mercedes"? Was he to have some more of bad l...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Red Bull also turned down Alonso the best driver in F1, so were does your theory go now? Exactly the same thing: Never mind what name, their importance to win the titles fades away if the car is great. So neither Alonso nor Lewis. Red Bull didn't need either Alonso or Hamilton to win titles because...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Well Hamilton had more than one option, he had McLaren or Mercedes. It seems people want to give Schumacher more credit because he served more time before the team started winning titles, I for one don't see the difference, either a driver can make a difference to the performance of a car or he can...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

But you are quite happy to credit Schumacher with the success of the Ferrari team Horner's comment about Hamilton was that he didn't want two roosters in the same hen house, that wasn't a negative take on Hamilton I didn't say it was a negative take. But the previous article claimed that if Mark ha...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

As for Ferrari do you really think Alonso would have stood for them signing Hamilton, he wasn't overly enamored with the signing of Kimi even though he knew he would beat him, again another negative slant you want to put Hamilton's way. Also regarding Ferrari do you realise that Alonso tried to bro...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

yes, well, in the same article Bernie said it was good that McLaren had brought on Perez and look how that turned out. I shouldn't hold him up as all-seeing just yet. And another article had Horner going on record saying he wouldn't hire Lewis as Seb's team mate. So, who to believe? Of course it ma...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Yes, something is fishy. It was the gunman on the grassy knoll What doesn't surprise me is that you seem to know everything that we don't know. Well you have to ask yourself why were the likes of Brawn, Lauda and Fry so desperate to sign Hamilton Just asked: I said that with only Rosberg on board a...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

As I say thats just my understanding, but if you do research it I would be interested in any links you've got. So far, trawling through the news, I've not found much showing how the situation developed through 2012. What did strike me, especially after what you explained, is that there has to be a ...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:22 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

Assuming Brawn said the truth: 'Its corrrect he gives us reference points and helps us understand what we need to focus on' Brawn and his engineering team lack the ability to understand where to focus. 'He tells us what he thinks and hes never short of detail and then you learn what level you need ...
by pokerman
Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck]
Replies: 648
Views: 115075

Re: Team changes: Luck v Intuition [Formerly Fernando's Luck

As for Ferrari do you really think Alonso would have stood for them signing Hamilton, he wasn't overly enamored with the signing of Kimi even though he knew he would beat him, again another negative slant you want to put Hamilton's way. Also regarding Ferrari do you realise that Alonso tried to bro...