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by KingVoid
Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 1007
Views: 365873

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

Well, it would look like that wouldn't it? If Hamilton puts it on pole everyone says Merc is quickest, if Vettel gets pole everyone says Ferrari is quickest. Not necessarily. I think that Hamilton took pole in Malaysia with what was probably not the quickest car (but Vettel was out of the picture)....
by KingVoid
Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 1007
Views: 365873

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

Look at how cautious Hamilton at the start in Russia and Hungary for instance. He was third going into the braking zone of turn 1 in Russia, and then Kimi of all people outbraked him easily. Lewis was also passed easily by both Red Bull cars in the first corner at Hungary (before Max took out Dan in...
by KingVoid
Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 1007
Views: 365873

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

For next season, he needs a car that is faster in qualifying and more reliable. I'm convinced that his mistakes partially came from desperation and the fact that he was fighting an uphill battle for most of the season.
by KingVoid
Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 1007
Views: 365873

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

Black_Flag_11 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:I've got a hunch Vettel will win the final two races?
I wonder if Hamilton will take it easy again like in 2015?
I've never been convinced that was the case :D Rosberg was already outqualifying Hamilton before that.
by KingVoid
Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:58 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Danny Ric at Mclaren?????
Replies: 76
Views: 28823

Re: Danny Ric at Mclaren?????

Ricciardo probably feels confident that he can beat a 38 year old Alonso.

It remains to be seen how this all evolves.

The most interesting decision would be if Ric went to Ferrari. I want to see whether 2014 was actually a fluke or not.
by KingVoid
Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Horner talks a load of crap, but they looked fastest today. Difficult to judge Ferrari vs Mercedes because they were all in different races. Kimi was stuck behind the Force Indias and by the time he cleared them, Bottas was too far up the road. Vettel made his way through traffic easier than Hamilto...
by KingVoid
Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 5307
Views: 1354189

Re: The Official Lewis Hamilton thread

Not a fan (although everyone already knows that :nod: ) but he's one of the very best drivers of all time. Congratulations.
by KingVoid
Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Hamilton's best combined sector times put him just 0.154s off Vettel, who did put his best sectors together on his final lap in Q3. Hamilton found 0.292s in the first two sectors on his final run relative to his banker lap. If he had just found another 0.069s in the final sector (possible) instead o...
by KingVoid
Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:14 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Since it seems to be a perfectly acceptable opinion to hold that Hamilton consistently makes the difference when he's is 3-4 tenths quicker in qualifying: I hold the opinion that neither Ferrari and Red Bull were not better than Mercedes today. Bottas was able to match Hamilton and easily outqualif...
by KingVoid
Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:43 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Since it seems to be a perfectly acceptable opinion to hold that Hamilton consistently makes the difference when he's is 3-4 tenths quicker in qualifying: I hold the opinion that neither Ferrari and Red Bull were not better than Mercedes today. Bottas was able to match Hamilton and easily outqualify...
by KingVoid
Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:18 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 503
Views: 130210

Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread

Hamilton has 3.5 kph on Vettel and 5.8 kph on Verstappen

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If he gets anything resembling a good start he'll be past them halfway down the straight, same for Bottas.
by KingVoid
Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's and Vettel's Relationship (+ other relationships)
Replies: 110
Views: 38352

Re: Hamilton's and Vettel's Relationship (+ other relationsh

I would argue that Hamilton's career has been easier than Vettel's.

Vettel's career started in 2007, not in 2010.
by KingVoid
Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:10 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's and Vettel's Relationship (+ other relationships)
Replies: 110
Views: 38352

Re: Hamilton's and Vettel's Relationship (+ other relationsh

The only real genuine bad blood on the grid is between Alonso and Vettel. Alonso didn't respect Vettel's achievements from 2010-2013, he said on multiple occasions that he was fighting Newey instead of Vettel. There have been several times since Alonso has joined McLaren-Honda where he's ignored blu...
by KingVoid
Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 209
Views: 67122

Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Vettel was superb today. Max was also very good but his final run was disappointing.

Hamilton and Bottas were OK. Not bad but nothing special.

Ricciardo and Raikkonen just terrible.

It doesn't hurt Kimi at this point, but Daniel's reputation is at serious risk here if he doesn't improve.
by KingVoid
Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:14 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Schumacher / Raikkonen / Massa Ferrari Switcheroo 2007
Replies: 109
Views: 33560

Re: Schumacher / Raikkonen / Massa Ferrari Switcheroo 2007

Hypothetically speaking: If Kimi was just 0.1s faster than Massa in the first half of the season, this is what his results would have likely looked like: Australia - 1st Malaysia - 2nd Bahrain - 1st Spain - DNF Monaco - 3rd Canada - 2nd USA - 3rd Kimi is on 48 points after the first seven races of ...
by KingVoid
Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:19 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

What a joke you are man. The average gap between Mercedes and Ferrari is not 0.348 seconds at all. You are only displaying the average gap when Mercedes wins. The average gap is something that should actually take into account all of the sessions. Wrong. Mercedes has an average advantage of 0.348 s...
by KingVoid
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:43 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Ugh, why bother debating things in the forum if people simply make up excuses in the face of empirical evidence? Now stating objective facts is considered "making excuses". x( Mercedes have enjoyed a bigger advantage in qualifying this season than Red Bull did in 2011. Track position wins you races...
by KingVoid
Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Ugh, why bother debating things in the forum if people simply make up excuses in the face of empirical evidence? Now stating objective facts is considered "making excuses". x( Mercedes have enjoyed a bigger advantage in qualifying this season than Red Bull did in 2011. Track position wins you races...
by KingVoid
Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Hamilton has been outqualified by Bottas four times this season. In Russia and Monaco he was horrible. In Hungary he had good race pace, but if he was not held up by Verstappen and Bottas in the first half of the race, then a win was surely a possibility given Vettel's steering problems. In Austria ...
by KingVoid
Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

The Ferrari has not fallen short in terms of speed. I think that it is perfectly fast enough to win the championship. I think the reliability issues in recent races have shifted the overall picture somewhat and must be taken into consideration. Factoring in reliability, you would have to conclude t...
by KingVoid
Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How would Nico Rosberg be doing in 2017?
Replies: 391
Views: 141623

Re: How would Nico Rosberg be doing in 2017?

Yes there is a marked difference between a teammate being prepared to crash into you, that would be the kind of teammate that maybe is preferable for Hamilton? Nice attempt to make Hamilton look like a victim. Hamilton was no holier than Rosberg. USA 2015 was a blatant move to punt Nico off the tra...
by KingVoid
Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Schumacher / Raikkonen / Massa Ferrari Switcheroo 2007
Replies: 109
Views: 33560

Re: Schumacher / Raikkonen / Massa Ferrari Switcheroo 2007

If Schumacher wasn't there and Ferrari had two Massa-level drivers in 2006, Renault would have looked like the clear best car. With Alonso winning comfortably in San Marino, Europe, France, China and Japan. Also, Alonso was in front of Massa when his engine blew up in Monza despite starting 6 places...
by KingVoid
Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Again, you aren't doing any analysis whatsoever; only looking at the end result and chalking it up as, first of all, being down purely to the car and secondly, being inevitable. That makes for a totally meaningless conversation. Of the races you've listed, Ferrari were at least as fast as Mercedes ...
by KingVoid
Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:46 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Schumacher / Raikkonen / Massa Ferrari Switcheroo 2007
Replies: 109
Views: 33560

Re: Schumacher / Raikkonen / Massa Ferrari Switcheroo 2007

In the second half of 2006 (from USA until Brazil), Massa scored 52 points and Alonso scored 50 points. They finished 4-2 in a two car finish in Massa's favour. However, Alonso retired in Hungary and Monza when ahead of Massa. Likewise, Massa retired in China when well behind Alonso. Hence, a more r...
by KingVoid
Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:35 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Now this is revisionism to comical levels. The reality is that this season Ferrari were only incapable of winning at Monza and Silverstone. Those are the only races since Monaco where they had no chance to win. You seem to take the end result and attempt to suggest that it was inevitable. At Spa, S...
by KingVoid
Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:26 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How would Nico Rosberg be doing in 2017?
Replies: 391
Views: 141623

Re: How would Nico Rosberg be doing in 2017?

I don't know how he would be doing, it just seems to me that he wasn't doing that bad of a job, considering how tense Lewis was because of him. Yes he was very tense after they crashed in Barcelona, having a teammate that's not going to crash into you would make you less tense. Having a teammate th...
by KingVoid
Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Your favourite Formula One seasons are...?
Replies: 39
Views: 17960

Re: Your favourite Formula One seasons are...?

2003, for the reasons that j man already stated. 2003 was extremely competitive. You never knew before a race weekend who would be quickest. There was a general pecking order but it fluctuated from race to race. Ferrari, Williams, McLaren and to some extent Renault were all regularly capable of chal...
by KingVoid
Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:43 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Instead of trying to look at numbers and create an abstraction of what is happening, this is an instance that calls for you to look at actual events. I'm not sure what makes you think that Hamilton is intentionally not pulling a gap. In the races where he could pull a gap (like Austin) he has. In r...
by KingVoid
Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:53 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

The Ferrari has been good enough for Lewis to have had almost as many poles if he had been driving it maybe even the same or more considering how much more predictable and consistent it is compared to the Mercedes which has had a few flaky tyre days. Lewis's aggressive days peaked in 2011 and he ha...
by KingVoid
Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

There's a good chance that Hamilton would feel the need to be more aggressive and - as a result - get involved in more collisions if he had a car that was generally slower in qualifying. Vettel has faced an uphill battle most weekends this season. There also is no guarantee that Lewis wouldn't have ...
by KingVoid
Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

If the 4 of them were all put in the same car, I would expect things to play out exactly as they have. Hamilton being the fastest, with Vettel a bit behind, Bottas a bit further behind that and Kimi bringing up the rear. Hamilton's average advantage in qualifying over Vettel this season has been se...
by KingVoid
Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

If we are suddenly going to use Bottas and Raikkonen as yardsticks, is it safe to call Mercedes the best car in Australia? And for most of the season, in fact, since Bottas is clearly ahead of Kimi in the standings.

The reality of the situation is that Bottas is no more of a yardstick than Kimi is.
by KingVoid
Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

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Safe to say that it's not even debatable anymore.
by KingVoid
Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:26 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

If all of the drivers are driving an identical car; they would indicate that Hamilton was the fastest with Vettel about 0.25 behind, Bottas another tenth back and Kimi a tenth behind him. That actually is what I would expect from the 4 of them in identical machinery give or take a tenth. I don't th...
by KingVoid
Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

What's clear is that Lewis has been metronomic in his qualifying performances. He consistently nailing his "bankers" and often barely improving on it on the second run, while always being consistently fast throughout the sessions. The whole Merc-Hamilton operation in qualifying is extremely strong....
by KingVoid
Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Vettel improved on his final run but so did almost everyone else. In fact, everybody but the Mercedes drivers improved on their final run. If they improved by 0.2-0.3 seconds (as everyone else did thanks to track evolution), then they should have been half a second up the road from Ferrari. Also Ham...
by KingVoid
Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona & on)
Replies: 1511
Views: 464538

Re: Ferrari/Mercedes has the faster car? (post barcelona &

Qualifying goes to Mercedes again. Neither Mercedes drivers improved on their final run, I think they had a much bigger advantage than the 0.200s it showed in the end. Probably closer to 0.500s To be honest, it's not really a debate anymore. In these high downforce cars, qualifying advantage is simp...
by KingVoid
Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 175
Views: 46988

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

It's impossible to win the WDC with a car that is so inferior in qualifying.
by KingVoid
Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hulkenberg vs Sainz
Replies: 34
Views: 15239

Hulkenberg vs Sainz

Who will come out on top? Sainz has his work cut out for him. He's taking over Palmer's seat and moving to a brand new team and car at the end of the season. Hulkenberg has had a whole year to get acclimatized to his new team so he'll probably have an advantage. Next year there will be no excuses fo...
by KingVoid
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:06 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ferrari 2008 vs Ferrari 2017 which was the bigger screw up?
Replies: 69
Views: 25616

Re: Ferrari 2008 vs Ferrari 2017 which was the bigger screw

Hamilton was clearly the fastest car in the race. Bottas and Vettel had roughly equal pace (Bottas quicker on US, Vettel quicker on SS). Raikkonen was even slower than Ricciardo. Let's not kid ourselves here. If the situations had been reversed, all the Hamilton fans would be talking about Ferrari's...