Does anyone else suspect that this was Alonso's choice - or at least an open reference to the idea that Alonso has a No#1 status enshrined in his contract which Perez was unlikely to pay much heed to? It's bullshit like this that kinda wants me to believe Vettel has been signed at Ferrari for 2014....

chinki wrote:I dint know Jenson was a rookie last year. The last I heard, he is a WDC who was racing in his 12th year last year.

And, he didn't finish equal in points last year, but how many points ahead? Against the most hyped, considered by many to be unbeatable, Lewis ?

That is right approach for Alonso to take. After being beaten by a rookie before, he can not risk to be beaten by another, not exactly a rookie, but a novice driver. im assuming the rookie you mentioned is Lewis? didn't they have the same exact points? Alonso was only behind via count-back. They di...

The F1 silly season is in full swing. Most of us have expected Sergio Pérez to be confirmed alongside Fernando Alonso at Ferrari. But, as explained in this exclusive GPUpdate.net column, whispers coming out of Maranello suggest that the Spaniard is pushing to retain Felipe Massa in order to lower t...

The F1 silly season is in full swing. Most of us have expected Sergio Pérez to be confirmed alongside Fernando Alonso at Ferrari. But, as explained in this exclusive GPUpdate.net column, whispers coming out of Maranello suggest that the Spaniard is pushing to retain Felipe Massa in order to lower t...

I think Hindsight has shown that the 2007 and 2008 Ferraris were probably a bit more superior to the Mclarens than we thought at the time because LH and FA are both better than Massa and Raikkonens was pretty much matched by Massa over those 2 years. It's true, these Ferraris were rockets, maybe no...

I think Hindsight has shown that the 2007 and 2008 Ferraris were probably a bit more superior to the Mclarens than we thought at the time because LH and FA are both better than Massa and Raikkonens was pretty much matched by Massa over those 2 years. I think it's quite the other way around, McLaren...

Is that like a Ulrika Jonsson in UK?

Nonsense Alonso made plenty of mistakes, he was the same age as Lewis 2007, and he was the main factor at cositng his team both titles , blackmailed his TP, and played a role in Spy gate. He was not great at Renault when things did not go his way " My team does not support me" etc Give him a compet...

They all played politics, they all pulled bullshit, but Fernando hasn't, and probably won't hit a rival to gain an advantage Nope, he'll just require his teammate to either mysteriously crash or let him by. Yes, but he never gets involved with his team mate on track. Its stupid to do so anyway. In ...

Isn't Formula 1 a team effort, you win and loose as a team? Is it only drivers who are allowed to make mistakes when learning and adopting to new circumstances? Misfortunes normally equals out as time passes by, but achievements are much more interesting IMO. Safety cars, punctures, slipping wheel b...

I look forward to your dozen or so other threads raising the question of why (insert top driver's name here) blames other people for his mistakes. It's a common trait amongst F1 drivers - when something goes wrong, it's anyone's fault but their own. +1 And everybody that didn't win had a problem wi...

While we have this thread can we establish exactly what happened? There are so many secrets and assumptions about this, and there is automatic denial from some quarters and vindictive bull from others. What I know extends this far: 1. Coughlan and Stepney plan to make a move to Honda and begin coll...

Depends on how you define "fine". They will not shutter their doors or lay off half their employees. But after Senna left, they didn't win a championship for 5 years. After Hakkinen left, no championship for 8 years. If Lewis leaves, there is no one of his calibre avialable as a replacement. Jenson...

I can't remember a season where the fundamentals have been so clouded. Looking for ways to fill the gap I thought I'd try starting a thread to see what generally accepted 'truths' of 2012 we think are bull. The first one that occurs to me is the relative performance of the Ferrari and McLaren. At t...

Too the OP Probably the Myth that Lewis cant handle his tyres or has an agressive racing style. It's been said numerous times that Jenson is the tyre masster but yet this year we see that Lewis is much better that his teammate at it. Just look at Catalunya where he started from 24th on the grid too...

I can't remember a season where the fundamentals have been so clouded. Looking for ways to fill the gap I thought I'd try starting a thread to see what generally accepted 'truths' of 2012 we think are bull. The first one that occurs to me is the relative performance of the Ferrari and McLaren. At t...

Haven't McLaren any proteges in lower series dying to have a go at a rookie season?
Otherwise I would like to see Perez in a top team.

Have to agree with the one who claims Jean Todt, honorable mention to sir Frank Williams.
Sad to see Ron Dennis leave the way he did.

I have been reading this discussion with much enthusiasm, but unfortunately I have been let down by the quality of debating. There is a lot to discuss, you people are smart and intelligent, but are let down by your own fan boy instincts. Especially the Ferrari/Alonso loyalists. Alonso has run over ...

With a bad Car you make mistakes , he had a fantastic Car in 07 and 08 especially in the wet. But i cant say i agree that 09 was a success with liegate....

Lewis is, and has always been the best wheel to wheel attacker/defender on the track. No one is close to his talent in that respect. Alonso is a very good defensive driver, so you knew that this battle was going to be a good one. Maldonado is from the school of bumper cars, so learn he wont. Wow, a...

Lewis is, and has always been the best wheel to wheel attacker/defender on the track. No one is close to his talent in that respect. Alonso is a very good defensive driver, so you knew that this battle was going to be a good one. Maldonado is from the school of bumper cars, so learn he wont. Wow, a...

Jiggs wrote:Why would ANYONE put Alonso in this list ... he hasn't done ANYTHING in the rain compared to Hammy, Schumi or Vettel.

Never doubt Alonso, never count him out

The problem with the McLaren drivers IMO is that they have different driving and therefore needs different cars to be at their best, this year the McLaren suits Lewis, bad for Jenson.

so Button's car is not right but Lewis leading the charge. something not right here. the commentators here in Sweden have always said that the differences in Lewis and Jensons driving makes them want the car different, and right now it matches Lewis. I believe the McLaren has been the fastest or qu...

Formula1Fan. wrote:He deserves it. He is the best driver on the paddock who also takes the most risks. Today's Senna.

c'mon Lewis we all know you've been through some rough times lately but keep your salary bargaining somewhere else

1. Alonso, it's his time to bounce back, the best driver in a car that's coming together 2. Vettel, Red Bull will get it together and at red Bull Vettel will keep it together 3. Raikkonen, a bit of wishful thinking, but the Lotus certainly looks good and so does Kimi 4. Hamilton, a bit behind alread...

IMO Alonso is again proving he is the best right now, with a Ferrari deemed as 4:th car he is right up there..
Vettel bouncing back, Schumacher a bit behind, Button and Hamilton not been able to capitalize on McLarens form.

I wish for a Kimi win in Monaco!

1. vettel, noone is faster and more consistent right now, that flow can bring him a long way 2. Alonso, best fighter and knows what it takes to bing a season home 3. Button, looks to get better and betterm, and have beaten Lewis in last season helps him 4. Lewis, shines with speed an daring moves, b...