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Always keep in mind that Ferrari will generally run their testing and practice about 30kg lighter on fuel than Mercedes and rbr

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Option 1 - return to an open breather system like on my dad's Anglia 105E and belch grey fumes all over the place, on to the track and around the bodywork of the car. Just for extra spice, remember that it will be hitting the visor of the driver behind like in the good old days when they used to ge...

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It may be the camera angle, engine noise or set up, but the 2017 cars look so much easier to drive. Although I doubt Kimi was driving on the limit in that lap.... I think you've hit on it at the end; Schumi is driving flat out, and Kimi is probably driving at least a half second off his ultimate pa...

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Mclaren can't afford not to have Honda on board right now. Honda is paying for their drivers and they're getting free engines to boot. They can't just cut it all away even if the contract did allow it

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Peter McG. wrote:

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Avgas 130 octane has a specific gravity of 0.72 which should be fairly close to what is in use by the teams but even if we assume the teams are running heavy fuel along the lines of military F34 then that is still sg 0.80. Even at the lighter weight oil has a far higher energy density. Add to that t...

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Externally the cars look very similar and still use a lot of the same concepts, but they are a different beast all together purely because of how the downforce and grip is produced. Last year the primary method of making downforce on the cars was effectively the wings. The front and rear wings and u...

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UnlikeUday wrote:A closer look at Red Bull when compared to Mercedes:

http://en.f1i.com/magazine/261593-tech- ... -rb13.html

I've been waiting for a good breakdown of the rb13. I'll read that over breakfast I think.

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It's hasmaldonadocrashed.com all over again

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I think I wouldn't rule Red Bull out for Oz at this stage if Renault deliver that couple of tenths. Engine down half a second sucks big time with the extra drag of these cars but they haven't shown their aero package yet either so could have a hefty jump in performance with both factors added. They...

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Mclaren can't afford NOT to have Honda on board right now to be fair. It'll continue

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Ill be in again for sure. It's surprising how often I end up hoping for my favoured drivers to have an issue so that my prediction isn't ruined, quite bizarre really.

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Exhaust valve temp seems the most likely limiting thing to me. I'm assuming that every manufacturer is already running thermal barrier coating on their exhaust valves, is there provision in the rules for internal pneumatic cooling holes? Piston engines have never been my strong suit, never worked wi...

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Hopefully we'll see some more aero updates as well, they've been decidedly lacking up to this point Today Red Bull should hopefully show what it's made of. I hope so, the only other explanation I've got is that with the extra drag outright power is at more of a premium than ever and knowing that th...

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Hopefully we'll see some more aero updates as well, they've been decidedly lacking up to this point

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For the love of racing..bring back those V8's....!!! They will do *inaudible* for the racing. All they do is make the cars slower and louder. We don't need that. :thumbdown: Upvote X10! Under equal regulations the old V8s would never be able to even hope to come near the current engines... Even the...

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Good, bring on the electric primary motors coupled to a 100% constant speed turbine auxiliary power unit with intermediary battery energy store I say!

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So the low 1:18.xx or even high 1:17.xx is never going to happen it seems. Turns out that the 5-6 seconds faster than 2015 times proposal was never actually agreed upon, it was the original recommendation by RBR. Teams instead accepted a proposal from McLaren which is the current regulations and is ...

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The fact that Mercedes denied they were burning oil deliberately in their engines then turned around and asked for the FIA to mandate a maximum fuel burn over a race period to 5L is what makes me almost certain that they are indeed doing it... That's massive! Way back in 2014 Ricciardo was disqualif...

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firstly these v6 engines sound pathetic. fact. there is no depth to the sound or any s**t like that. they are just abysmal. if people want to go to a race and not hear loud engines then wear ear plugs. the noise cannot be turned up but it can be turned down. some people dont consider noise importan...

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Exediron wrote:
Blackhander wrote:
Caserole of Nonsense wrote:firstly these v6 engines sound pathetic. fact.
Opinion at best really...
Maybe it's an alternative fact?

you've got me there

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firstly these v6 engines sound pathetic. fact . there is no depth to the sound or any s**t like that. they are just abysmal. if people want to go to a race and not hear loud engines then wear ear plugs. the noise cannot be turned up but it can be turned down. some people dont consider noise importa...

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I wonder how many of the people in here criticising Honda and defending McLaren were at the other extreme when it was RBR pointing out the failings of the Renault engine?... Rose coloured glasses are dangerous Different circumstances. Red Bull weren't just critical of Renault, they were extremely a...

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I wonder how many of the people in here criticising Honda and defending McLaren were at the other extreme when it was RBR pointing out the failings of the Renault engine?... Rose coloured glasses are dangerous

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Personally I'm not a fan. The V12 and V10 had a nice clean note to them but the V8 never really sounded good, sure they're loud- but in an off key broken reed kind of way. An air raid siren is loud but you don't see people lining up to go to ye olde siren festival. Noise for the sake of noise is poi...

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I'd more suspect it to be teams like force India, toro Rosso and Williams who will be in more direct competition

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Forget banning team data sharing. Simply allow telemetry to be shared on test circuits to develop the car at the start of the year and then ban it altogether once the cars are actually at GP circuits. Telemetry adds practically nothing to the spectacle, nor the challenge or enjoyment of racing a ca...

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Simply put... This is not the actual RBR car. Every single element on it is so simplified it is just showing RBR's depiction of a car as described in the rule book. The actual car will look similar in form, but nothing alike in practice.

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Man I miss the days when Scarbs was just a guy with a website

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I'm actually more hopeful about this car now than I was on first viewing. It initially looked quite simplistic to me but having watched this video that goes into more detail on the aerodynamic elements it's actually quite aggressive and detailed. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-ghoGpYHQ The barge ...

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Double post

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Just my opinion: Ugliest. Car. Ever. Poor Fred. FA couldn't care less if its ugly I dont think its ugly, its similar to last year's one (decent looking car shapes) but with a less boring livery Ugliest one by far I think its the Ferrari with those really weird sidepod intakes I suppose it proves it...

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Looks surprisingly clean and simple which once again is probably a good thing. Strange though, I really expected something crazy from McLaren under these new regs. Nice front wing mounts though, working all of the aero devices under the nose and along the floor leading edge very hard.

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From @suttonimages https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5bRcZFWMAAcZ-I.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5bRfufWQAERUoI.jpg I worked out what the sidepods remind me of! They're all melted and mopey like a blobfish https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHoErkDaCbuitMhzP-vEaZnpN8GD2LEYIrnID_Al...

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It's kind of... Hideous?

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Ferrari has crazy sidepods!!

And a shark fin wing combo... But those sidepods!

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So this is a sneaky little trick if it stays there... http://www.racecar-engineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/upmerc2.jpg source:http://www.racecar-engineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/upmerc2.jpg Go home Mercedes, you're drunk That's the type of WTF? we were expecting with McLaren. :lo...

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So this is a sneaky little trick if it stays there...

source:http://www.racecar-engineering.com/wp-c ... pmerc2.jpg

Go home Mercedes, you're drunk

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Pullrod wrote:

source: @f1talks (twitter)

Ok so the upper suspension arm is connected via a carbon fibre tube... Could this be implying that the upright itself is actually significantly built up from carbon, that would be a massive improvement if so?

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SnakeSVT2003 wrote:If only the front wing was the same dimensions as last year.......

But the car still looks beautiful.

By comparison to the width of the car itself the front wing is actually significantly smaller than last years

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