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Also McLaren has taken a very genuine step forward.

But it was quite alarming how fast the Red Bull's were in race pace today. Webber flew through the field on what looked like a very bad day for him. The second a car moved out of the way he was just setting purple sectors.

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Button = Vettel
Hamilton = Webber
Vettel = Button

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Hamilton appears to have done a Webber from 2011.

Good pace all around but lots of little mistakes which make a big difference in the end.

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Senna's retarded start to the race was far worse and he had no pace.

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I have no idea how Ricciardo came back from that, that was a spectacular race for him.

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And he beat Golden Boy regardless.

Surely Red Bull don't think this will wash long term?

It honestly is probably just a coincidence. With their current performance levels they need both cars operating well.

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The fact that Jenson has never got a pole in the McLaren is telling, however McLaren have never given him a car that is really capable of pole positions. Assuming McLaren's pace over the season could actually continue to advance we could see a situation like Vettel last year as Hamilton has the clea...

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I wouldn't miss them.

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Having now seen Hamiltons lap i'm confident that he could have gone even faster. He was hardly even attacking the curbs and was not using all of the track, i'd say there was a few tenths easily, it was just a banker lap.

I think its obvious they are the pace leaders.

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"We arn't dominant, but yet, we are"

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After coming here for the last few years, i can categorically say EVERY thread has the same skeleton as this one. Person A dislikes a driver, the bias which he uses to bend history to his perception Person B likes said driver, the bias which he uses to bend history to his perception A qualifying (a...

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After coming here for the last few years, i can categorically say EVERY thread has the same skeleton as this one. Person A dislikes a driver, the bias which he uses to bend history to his perception Person B likes said driver, the bias which he uses to bend history to his perception A qualifying (a...

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I'm just glad we got full 20 minute sections on the Mercedes Ladies Lunch, I really wanted to know that the F1 wasn't just about the 'boys on track' and that there is glitz and glamour too! :uhoh: It frustrated me how much of the vibe of the pre race show was focused on the fact that "yeah theres th...

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After coming here for the last few years, i can categorically say EVERY thread has the same skeleton as this one. Person A dislikes a driver, the bias which he uses to bend history to his perception Person B likes said driver, the bias which he uses to bend history to his perception A qualifying (a...

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and without KERS he still beat Vettel. The team must be spitting flames that Webber didn't have KERS, he could be in the top 3. Wow. FIA should give him WDC title right away for that.. Vettel is beating him since 2009.... :lol: Even Massa qualified few races in front of Alonso. I think you're misun...

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he meant both... this tells enough and without KERS he still beat Vettel. It seems one minute Webber is rubbish, such a poor driver but then you see him outperforming Vettel and by quite some margin today. Of course it doesn't mean we should hand him the WDC. But if he beets Vettel this year in the...

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It seems to me they are actually further back. Last year they were biting on the toes of the midfield, this year they are back closer to Marussia. Based on todays qualifying alone its really hard to determine what is the midfield. We always called 8 and lower the midfield pack (a hangover from the e...

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and without KERS he still beat Vettel. The team must be spitting flames that Webber didn't have KERS, he could be in the top 3.

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With Schumachers starting skills I expect a minimum of a podium tomorrow. For all we know all the nay say could have been the team sand bagging. They had the ultimate pace for pole today, it didn't come together but I expect Mercedes to continue to develop. Its difficult to say right now but I think...

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My top 10 drivers of the weekend to date: 1. Grosjean: A good second quicker than his former World Champ teammate all weekend and really nailed his flyer, out-qualifying both Mercs. 2. Hamilton: Has looked strong since the start of the event and finished today with a stunning lap for pole. 3. Webbe...

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Melburne is Webbers home race...i dont know whats all hype about. He drove milions of alps on that track even before he came to F1... :uhoh: Its a street circuit. And Webber lived in England for most of his life competing in British Formula 3 etc. I'm fairly sure the first time Webber ever drove Al...

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My top 10 drivers of the weekend to date: 1. Grosjean: A good second quicker than his former World Champ teammate all weekend and really nailed his flyer, out-qualifying both Mercs. 2. Hamilton: Has looked strong since the start of the event and finished today with a stunning lap for pole. 3. Webbe...

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RunningMan wrote:And Webber didn't have KERS?

Why am I not surprised.

they had to give Vettel a jump on him somehow.

It didn't work out very well

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Also interesting, if Red Bull have 2 of the best qualifiers in the sport (which is general opinion) they could be the 4th fastest car this year.

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Schumacher has every possibility for a podium tomorrow and I want to see it happen.

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I can't wait to see Vettel's surly face. Red bull may have better race pace and slower qualy pace like Mclaren had last year, so until the race is over tomorrow I still would not rule red bull out, and Rosberg back in his favourite grid spot :) But that would require Vettel to overtake someone. Som...

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I can't wait to see Vettel's surly face. Red bull may have better race pace and slower qualy pace like Mclaren had last year, so until the race is over tomorrow I still would not rule red bull out, and Rosberg back in his favourite grid spot :) But that would require Vettel to overtake someone. Som...

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Vettel slaughtered Webber today, oh wait. He also brought out the best in the car and beat everyone with a superior car.. Oh wait... Now with Vettel not in a superior qualifying car we will see how he can manage fighting through and in the field again and not using rain to get a win in an inferior ...

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Vettel slaughtered Webber today, oh wait.

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Pacific beach, let's not forget Australia 2010, Webber would have won if not for the teams One sided pit strategy, turkey like you said, vettel crashed into him. Silverstone the team crippled him and he still won. The thing is I have never said webber is faster so I don't understand your point? And...

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Pacific beach, let's not forget Australia 2010, Webber would have won if not for the teams One sided pit strategy, turkey like you said, vettel crashed into him. Silverstone the team crippled him and he still won. The thing is I have never said webber is faster so I don't understand your point? And ...

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You are right, I should not have referred to 2010 as 'last year' and 2011 as 'this year' since 2012 just started... The point is Vettel is much better than Webber in the wet, the opposite of what you claimed. If my memory serves me correctly Webber has not won a single wet race in his whole career....

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I don't understand all the Webber hate on here. If you put a driver in the #2 seat at Red Bull a few tenths faster than Webber, you would have a driver faster than Vettel too. They are usually only separated in Qualifying by 0.1-0.3. When you consider Webbers weight disadvantage and his substantial...

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I don't understand all the Webber hate on here. If you put a driver in the #2 seat at Red Bull a few tenths faster than Webber, you would have a driver faster than Vettel too. They are usually only separated in Qualifying by 0.1-0.3. When you consider Webbers weight disadvantage and his substantial...

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I don't understand all the Webber hate on here. If you put a driver in the #2 seat at Red Bull a few tenths faster than Webber, you would have a driver faster than Vettel too. They are usually only separated in Qualifying by 0.1-0.3. When you consider Webbers weight disadvantage and his substantial ...

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1 - Fernando Alonso. Supremely fast, aggressive, and excellent under pressure. Has the aura of a true F1 great. Difficult to argue that this man isn't the best driver in the sport today. 2 - Lewis Hamilton. Aside from the odd blunder, he's virtually Alonso's equal. Excellent all-rounder. 3 - Sebast...

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f1_is_awsom0 wrote:Woah Ricciardo has shot straight up to 21 leaving Vergne at 12

Did u see him in the Young driver test he was great

I'm surprised its not further in Ricciardo's favor.

Vergne might be a good driver, but i'm already sick of his arrogance and expectations.

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For me, "who is the better driver" and "who will do better this year" are two different questions. I think Vergne showed more in the junior series that Ricciardo, but the latter will have the experience advantage in the first half of they year at least. I don't understand why people say this? Ricci...

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For me, "who is the better driver" and "who will do better this year" are two different questions. I think Vergne showed more in the junior series that Ricciardo, but the latter will have the experience advantage in the first half of they year at least. I don't understand why people say this? Ricci...

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Ricciardo by far. I can't believe he won Monaco last year in the I.S.R car with two top drivers in the superior Carlin cars also competing. Oh and they've been team mates before, the results are here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Formula_Renault_seasons#Formula_Renault_2.0_West_European_Cup_sea...

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