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Vettel lost the race because he was too greedy on the restart. With the benefit of hindsight, he should have stayed behind Bottas and just waited for the race to fall into his lap. At the time however, it seemed like the best chance he had to retake the lead. The important thing was being ahead of ...

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I was under the impression that you get 1 defensive move, and then you are allowed to move back to take your line through the corner. Given that Dan was never alongside in any capacity, going by my understanding (and correct me if i'm wrong) then i'm not really sure what Max has done so wrong in th...

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One thing people overlooked was Kimi continuing after being hit, then realising he could not steer the car. This was important as he then hit Max, who hit Alonso. Had Kimi stopped, at least one other car could still carry on.

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No. It's too early to call the title. This season has seen Ferrari come back over and over again. I will be keen to see how things develop in Malaysia, there are at least 4-5 corners where I think the Ferraris will have the edge because of their superior traction. I would not be shocked if Ferrari ...

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Watching the video again, I think Verstappen also has to take some blame. The initial contact was Kimi's right rear wheel with Vertstappen's front left wheel. This happened because Verstappen was moving across on Kimi (who was running out of room). Yes, Verstappen was reacting to Vettel, but there ...

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Honda with STR could be a blessing in disguise. They have shown improvements last year but may be due to too much pressure from Mclaren. This year engine is more unreliable.It could be a design issue also to meet the Mclaren deadline they tried something and it got worse. But anyways I do not think...

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I think the president already 'killed' them for their Monza loss.

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Remaining tracks Mercedes will be strong. Probably not the dominance of Monza. But enough to control the race and qualifying they have the advantage. Vettel still can win but needs luck. Like in Baku, Hamilton was cruising and the headset got loose somehow. So he had to do extra pit stop. I have ne...

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Is it the end? No, it's the beginning of Vettel playing catchup. With any luck he'll be much more calm and measured in his approach. Max was right when he said that someone fighting for the championship should not be driving without assessing the down side of any action taken. As many have said, I ...

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Without reading a single post on here the ONLY one to blame was Vettel. Raikkonen had the best start by far and was ahead of Verstappen and Verstappen gave him room to get by until Vettel pulled the ridiculous squeeze on both of them in an attempt to keep from losing the lead going into turn 1. It ...

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Sorry but there are plenty more races to go and it is unwise to make desperate moves because you want to finish first. Kimi's move was text book and flawless and he did not turn into Verstappen. If you actually pay closer attention you will notice Verstappen sees Vettel beginning to put the squeeze...

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Honda with STR could be a blessing in disguise. They have shown improvements last year but may be due to too much pressure from Mclaren. This year engine is more unreliable.It could be a design issue also to meet the Mclaren deadline they tried something and it got worse. But anyways I do not think...

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Mclaren will provide a good testing ground for them.

I suspect they have a long term eye on completely buying over Torro Rosso. Can't see Honda just preferring to supply engines.

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Without reading a single post on here the ONLY one to blame was Vettel. Raikkonen had the best start by far and was ahead of Verstappen and Verstappen gave him room to get by until Vettel pulled the ridiculous squeeze on both of them in an attempt to keep from losing the lead going into turn 1. It ...

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Its not completely over because a DNF is such a points changer but yesterday was a double pointer for Hamilton, I think he expected to be 10 points behind Vettel but instead he is 28 in front. All Hamilton has to do is finish the remaining races, Its not as though the Mercedes cars are prone unreli...

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This explains Seb's desperation in getting maximum points at SGP. The season is predictable. Ferrari better on high downforce tracks and Mercedes the others. For all the fuss about Seb's accident, the truth is winning in SGP would only give Seb short term joy. The best car will always have the final...

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pause at 0:19. Kimi steered into Max PPuyooS0QqY Replay shows: Vettel swerving fast to cover Max Max being away of Seb and slightly turning left and realising Kimi was there Kimi coming up and trying to encourage Max to move over a bit by slightly turning in to him Both Ferraris unaware that they h...

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I agree that it is a bit unfair to blame Vettel. Both Vettel and Max head towards each other at the beginning, Max initially, then Vettel, a bit more sharp. It is an unseen Kimi that eventually started the chain reaction. But sometimes it is just bad luck, no one's fault specifically. Also, in my o...

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Just playing devils advocate (since I think, it was a racing incident). But on the picture Verstappen is clearly "behind" both the Ferraris. He could have backed out easily which would have avoided the incident, but was as reluctant as the other two to give up his position although it was already l...

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I wonder why so many people are blaming Vettel for this incident. He was clearly ahead and not involved in the initial contact. Both Ferrari's were in front of Verstappen and he should have backed out. But of course he didn't do that, because he never does. Which is why, in spite of his obvious spe...

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Huge turn around for the title, I nearly wrote it yesterday but didn't but I was going to say Vettel can lose the title IF he DNF's tomorrow and its how it played out. Singapore was his race to win and he needed the Monaco-Hungary-Singapore triple as the foundation for his title. Vettel needed to w...

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dutch view
blames Vettel, but more from a mental perspective. He should not swerve as he needs the points.

Key question. What if Max wasn't there? Would Kimi hit Vettel? I believe they would have touched at the very least.

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pause at 0:19.

Kimi steered into Max

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Whilst Verstappen & Raikkonen made contact first, this was only due to Verstappen being squeezed by Vettel. Vettel tried the old grid start trick by storming across hoping to cut in front of all opponents. He must not have realised Max & Kimi were already alongside though so the misjudgement cost t...

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Did Max actually swerve into Kimi to avoid Vettel? If so, then Vettel's chop caused the accident.

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I'm not arguing with anyone anymore. I'm gutted the whole season is ruined. This is the final post from me this race, probably this season. awww........It's called racing for a reason - the season ain't over until the last race is run. Lewis's good luck today might turn to bad luck in any one of th...

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Can't believe Ferrari have tweeted that was max fault. Mugs, vettel screwed up big time but he won't admit it. Bet Hamilton couldn't believe his luck but after that he drove superbly in difficult conditions where his natural talent shines through. He may not be the best all round but he is the bigg...

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The contact was between Kimi and Vettel. Looks like Kimi hit Max, lost control, was beside Vettel at that moment and hit him Nope - look closer Kimi's line never changed, he was a rocket-ship off the line and would have given Vettle trouble at turn one, Max's line was the one that did change as he ...

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The contact was between Kimi and Vettel. Looks like Kimi hit Max, lost control, was beside Vettel at that moment and hit him

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Ennis wrote:
funkymonkey wrote:Tomorrows race will be decided by how sensible Max is at the front. I hope he does not do stupid lunge in first corner to take lead. But I have a bad feeling about it
I'm hoping for an 18 car pile up.

only possible if it rains

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Game over for Ferrari. Has Vettel signed a new long term deal?

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Remove all driver aids.

The last driver aid I know of is gear shifting using clutch assistance. Make the drivers shift manually using a clutch pedal. It will definitely expose some of them.

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It's not a fallacy. Renault and Mclaren both need each other, for now. When Renault becomes a top 3 team, they will stop supplying to Mclaren.

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The trend is obvious. High downforce tracks, Ferrari is better. Problem is remaining tracks are not. Mercedes will win again this year.

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I agree with that sentiment, a driver that has collisions can learn to stop having them / take less risk. A slower driver can not become faster. Whilst I prefer Dan, Max can easily become a better driver by just playing the long game a bit more. Dan's slight speed disadvantage, well there isn't any...

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yes. but you cant use his points tally to justify it because he has lost a lot of points that werent his fault, either collisions or being f****d over by ferrari. he was never on the pace here at any point in the weekend really. silverstone is a much stronger track for him. but yes even as i fan i ...

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depends on which team. Massa is still racing well but not good enough for a top team. If Kimi doesn't mind, he can look at midfield teams next year.

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Vettel should apologise to Lewis

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The stewards said he did not accelerate out of the corner and he didn't brake, he maintained a constant speed out of the corner. Vettel accelerated and went into the back of Hamilton. Its on the border of a racing incident, but if you are blaming anybody its on Vettel. What followed is pretty clear...

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nixxxon wrote:I can understand why Vettel hit the back of Hamilton as Hamilton did unnecessarly slow down a bit too much in a very inadequate place which is right at the exit of that 90 degree corner

As there aren't clear rules on this, Vettel should have known better

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