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I am really old and corroded, but I would not like to watch cricket, tennis or golf in which players had to use different quality bats, racquets or clubs at different times by regulation. What we want to see is straight competition between the drivers and cars based more on their abilities than the ...

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Thanks for all posters views, which help to build up a more complete picture of the Rosbergs. As most of you/us agree, the biggest difference is their eras: Keke was a real character and did not care what others did or thought. He just said what he thought, puffed away in clouds of smoke, and went h...

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Just posted a piece on my blog which explores the careers of these two sometimes under-estimated drivers. Interesting detailing their careers and car/team experiences. I was fortunate to see all of Keke's races at Kyalami from debut in 1978 to his last great dice in 1985 with teammate Mansell. They ...

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Agree with the OP that McLaren should do everything they can to keep Hamilton. A top-rate driver is critical when cars are close-matched as they are this season.
Against such class as Alonso and Vettel, Hamilton's talent is essential to McL.

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JB really is having a bad season. Like Webber did in 2011 compared with 2010, Mansell in 1990, and Lauda had in 1985 compared with 1984. So it does happen to good drivers and teams.

It must be a difficult problem or combination of problems, considering JB and the team are so experienced.

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With the cars being a mixed bunch, with none dominant, I'd go with the three drivers as Flyer did (earlier post): Alonso, Hamliton and Vettel.

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Hi Froze: I love your pic of Keke Rosberg with his fag! I was lucky enough to see him race from debut in 1978 and had along chat with him at Kyalami in 1985; a real racer, with great car-control, who helped Mansell a lot by example with the turbocharged Williams-Honda; they finished 1-2 that year in...

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Those noses are a desperate/expedient response to a sudden regulation. They are ugly and always will be. The McLaren's nose is the result of 'natural' design and therefore good looking. Talking of ugly, those cars of 2007-8 must rank as hideous: with all the little flaps and bits littering the bodie...

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Hamilton is a top-rate driver, and McLaren will surely do much to keep him. Imo his is the fastest package so far in 2012. Grid penalties ruin races and distort perceptions.

Paired with Button makes one of F1's best driver teams. Be a pity to see this broken up.

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3 litres, unlimited number of cylinders/cams/valves. BUT no turbos, superchargers, kers.
Good question from OP.

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Much as Massa is a nice guy and has done well for Ferrari 2006-2009, he is too slow now, like Barrichello and Trulli. Too costly to have a driver losing half a second a lap; just look at how well newboys Perez,Maldonado, Grosjean,di Resta have done: enthusiasm, desire and energy in the cockpit are c...

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Agree with the OP, a really great drive. This is the second race that Lewis could/should have won this year, but for the artificial grid place penalties. Remember Kimi in 2005: four races penalised. Imagine tennis or golf where the best are penalised by serving/teeing off from 100 metres further bac...

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Agree with most posters: Madonado, Alonso and Hamilton. Great drivers from Kobayashi and Raikkonen. The stewards penalty again ruined the race: Hamilton was so much faster in quali, reckon he'd have won. In years tro come we may well see Alonso's drives in the off-pace Ferraris being compared to Mos...

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It seems Blinky's explanation is close to the truth of what Ferrari/Todt threatened Rubens. Rubens will not tell, there are too many important people still very much around in F1 in high places. Rubens signing again for years : probably worked out his equipment quality, reliability, chances of good ...

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Thanks for sharing such interesting info and pic of Divo. Amazing how good the circuit condition looks!

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Great memorial topic to a really nice person and one of the fastest drivers of his era. Alan Jones reckoned GV was the best he faced, always pushing so hard and never giving an inch: "Every time I looked in my mirror thinking I'd pulled a gap, but that red S.....box was all over me!" Posters çommnet...

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Recently a poster (apologies for not noting name) quoted Jackie Stewart's "Top Five Drivers": Fangio, Ascari, Moss, Clark and Prost. A very tough choice to make, just five drivers. My post reply on this topic seems ot have got lost: I agree with Blake and Benmc that to include four of today's driver...

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The slowest car and package to win was the 1967 Cooper-Maserati at Kyalami with Pedro Rodriguez driving. The much faster, superior Hulme and Brabham/brabham-Repcos, the Surtees/Honda all had trouble. On lap 60 of 80 John Love/1965 Tasman Cooper -Climax T79 (2.7 litre, four-cylinder) was heading for ...

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Massa is not what he used to be: the sequence of Hungaroring 2009, Alonso 2010 as team-mate and Hockenheim 2010 have reduced his confidence and ability. And the Ferraris of 2009-2012 have not been top-rate.

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Gilles' few wins and no poles are due to the fact that he never had a top-rate car. Even the most competitive he drove,the 1982 Ferrari 126C2, was slower than the Renault, Williams and Brabham-BMW. Many talented drivers were unable to score highly for years: Button, Mansell, Rindt, Surtees, Moss amo...

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Not good news at all. Mercedes quitting could mess up a few teams and driver careers, as well as the racing. It would not be good to lose MSC or have Nico R in a backmarker team. And what about Hamilton, Button, Force India drivers? Surprising to read what Bernie E said of Mercedes. It was sad to se...

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Boudica's post that McLaren did not use Hamilton to test at Mugello makes one think that teams preferred to have one-driver consistency? And that the testing was very limited somehow? Can't think Lotus would exclude Kimi without serious/good reason; he must be so good for their sponsors and general ...

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The Moss/Jenks win of 1955 is the most publicised MM, certainly in the English-speaking world. Fangio came in second driving solo, and did well considering a persisitent misfire all the way through; he reckoned he'd have had a good chance of winning had it not been for this problem. Not a driver giv...

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The Moss/Mercedes-Benz Mille Miglia of 1955 was an epic. How about Caracciola, who was the only other non-Italian to win? In 1931 he drove his big SSK from Stuttgart to Bresica, won and then drove home again the next day. Two of ther greatest drivers.

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Good to have a thread on this team. They make an important part of the mid-grid field. Ricciardo after 4 races this season is showing very well. Vergne probably needs more time in the car and in races. I was sorry to see Buemi and Alguersuari go; they tried so hard and imo performed well. But the Te...

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"Offline" 's comments on the luck factor in choosing teams sums it up. Before each season not even the teams themselves know how their new car is going to perform. The element of luck in F1 has always been huge; based on 2006-2008 who thought Ferrari would not continue to produce top-rate cars? Who ...

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We are all familiar with the high levels of scientific training, fitness and diet that today's drivers Button, Alonso, Schumacher and Vettel adopt. But what of drivers from earlier times? Were the fifties 'non-six-pack' midrif Fangio, Ascari and Gonzalez not fit? They raced in hot, uncomfortable fro...

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Ricard better than Valencia, but not at the expense of Spa.

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Schumacher interview after the race (very free translation from my memory ;)): Perhaps it's time think about, if the tires should be this important. You go 60% to 70% through the corners all the time because if you go quicker you can see your tires been torn apart / getting destroyed. Rosberg: Yes,...

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Working on a piece covering the career of Italian driver Luigi Villoresi (grand prix career 1938-1956) I was impressed at how similar he was to Jenson Button in some respects. Both drove with a smooth, sensitive style, conserving tyres and machinery with minimal and efficient use of the steering and...

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Thanks for this info, AnneC and Davedpg; very useful/essential when Skyless.

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Sad to see a great drive disappear like that; too many tyre types make F1 a lotto race; not necessary.
But really good to see Kimi's competitiveness and how fast the Lotus is. And Grosjean is fast too.

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The tyre strategy was apity after KR showed such good pace; and RG is no slouch. The car and drivers are really good; as posters suggest, a problem on the pitwall?

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So far Kobayashi and Perez.
Then Kovalainen and Petrov, Raikkonen-Grosjean and di Resta-Hulkenberg.
Good topic, there are so many goodçlose-matched team-mates this year.

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If Lewis had not had hat artificial race-ruining penalty, I had him as favourite to win. He again drove so well, had to take many risks to overtake, and to finish third was outstanding. JB had bad luck too, but showed the McLarens had the pace to win or come close. One of, if not the, most exciting ...

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Slampe and Lt Drebin have stated what my opinion is of Prost: very high. I watched all his SA GP races from 1982 when he unlappded himself to win after a pit for puncture in the Renault turbo, to his 1993 win for Williams-Renault. Having also seen all Clark's races there 1961 -1968, imo Prost was ju...

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Aduka: your estimate of the Mclaren being 0.2 to 0.3 faster than the Renault agrees with my estimate of 0.2 average over the 2005 season. Raikkonen and Alonso must have been close in driver speed; I don't agree with those who say Kimi was slower. I don't know why he slowed in 2007 after moving to Fe...

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Was Kimi at the level of Alonso? Hakkatack's point about all those grid place penalties for KImi says it all. It was like playing snakes and ladders, with the KR/McLaren-Merc package getting all the snakes. Ruined the season for the whole field, bringing in that artificial/arbitrary rule/penalty el...

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Always so easy to get carried away and off-topic. I should have posted this on Dolomite's Perez thread. Perez handled his 'off' so well, by letting the car run instead of wrenching it back and over-correcting. Alien't'human makes a good point about the Monza 2008 Toro being better suited and having ...

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Much as I wanted Perez to overtake Alonso's Ferrari in Malaysia and win; and that Sergio seems to be very talented, not too much should be read into his Malaysian GP second place. Wet or changeable weather conditions have sometimes produced odd-ball wins: Beltoise/BRM at Monaco in 1972 Panis /Ligier...

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