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stevey wrote:I think everyone wants to see Vettel in the same team as either Alonso, Hamilton or Raikonnen.

That would be an epic season indeed

It won't happen though, much like you would never see a true topliner matched against Schumacher during the dominant years at Ferrari

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AnRs wrote:
A2jdl wrote:and Vettel has the journey man webber and the rocketship of the redbull
And the statistics, trophys, wdc, wcc titles that noone in the 2013 field can match, poor guy

He's certainly made the most of the opportunity given to him by Red Bull

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Oh, here they come... the Vettel crowd is tiddled again. Now that is a surprise. :nod: I wonder if there is any chance each of the two drivers just really do believe that the other is the best, and it is not a political attack at Vettel at all? It is possible you know. It is possible Blake but know...

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BrazilLastCorner2008 wrote:Going to be interesting to see what both say when/if they run into each other at some point (on track!)

When has that happened in the last 3 years?

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I find their constant complimenting pretty funny, they keep doing it and Vettel keeps winning titles. I do genuinely believe that they think highly of each other, but does Hamilton really think Alonso is the best driver in the world? Doesn't he think he's better than him and vice versa? I think tha...

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I find it odd how poles on this forum show that most people think the two best drivers are Alonso and Hamilton but if either of them think that they must be playing mind games! Could be that they actually agree with the majority. You do realize this is a British forum..Hamilton fans will have no pr...

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I wonder if there is any chance each of the two drivers just really do believe that the other is the best, and it is not a political attack at Vettel at all? It is possible you know. This is only my opinion: maybe they aren't politically attacking Vettel like you said. They're just saying about eac...

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Not this fairy cakes again. Prepare yourself for months of threads like this one every time Alonso and Hamilton praise each other. It's a pathetic attempt to annoy Vettel. Oh, here they come... the Vettel crowd is tiddled again. Now that is a surprise. :nod: I wonder if there is any chance each of ...

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Might as well join in with the Off Season Topics. Surprised this one hasn't popped up. After hearing ‘no’, it always hurts a little more each time Full article http://www.inautonews.com/alonso-snubbed-red-bull-several-time So Alonso turned down both Honda/Brawn and Red Bull who between them have wo...

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Just friggin get rid of DRS altogether and let the drivers overtake normally. I guess you forget things over time but i do remember a period of time when seeing an overtake was a rare experience, who remembers the Trulli train? Qualify the car further up the grid then it should be then in the race ...

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GO SUPER PEDRO. Why are they putting Pedro to good use but didn't do so with Fisi? Both are hugely experienced, strikes me as a missed opportunity for the past 3 cars... I think Alonso rates Pedro as a good test driver possibly from his time at McLaren, it could be his influence that got Pedro the ...

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But Newey has turned down Ferrari more than that once before. Even if Horner goes that way I can't see Newey following. iirc when he was with McLaren and was approached by Ferrari, he didn't want to go mainly cause he wanted to stay in England. I think it was his wife that didn't want to live in It...

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Odd to say the least, I wonder what could have happened to make him miss the first test. I doubt it's something to do with a sponsor agreement because, its the first test and they don't usually have 4-day events. Unless they just want to get Pedro in the car for a while. Is not the first test by an...

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The trouble is that there are only so many seats available in F1 and drivers without budgets have to show that they have something more not to give than the pay drivers, only problem is the so called pay drivers are themselves very good so if you're shown to be no better than a pay driver then don't...

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As for the poll question, I don't think Rosberg will suffer a Kovalainen-style humiliation at Hamilton's hands, but I do expect Nico to be comfortably beaten. But are 'we' underestimating Rosberg? I don't know. He is ranked 8th overall in the 'rank the drivers 2012' thread, behind Webber and Hulken...

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I just genuinely believe that if Rosberg were a truly elite talent, he would have beaten Schumacher convincingly over the last couple years. I don't include 2010 in that, since Schumacher was very poor and absolutely no competition whatsoever bar two or three decent drives. Leaving the points from ...

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Robot wrote:Alonso will do what Ferrari says, if Massa is fighting for the title and Alonso is not, he will help Felipe, I don't know why it's in question, it's common sense.

But i'm guessing Alonso would not be looking to step down mid season like Massa had to do in 2010?

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Is he Underestimated as a whole. Yes. A lot use his time at Merc as a yardstick. Forgetting that when the Merc was up for it he got podiums and even a win. When it wasn't for the most part and especially in 2012 he was driving to a time to preserve tyres. As for next year who knows. If Merc hasn't ...

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I just think there are better prospects out there, Nico was touted as a future star if he could get in the right team but what has he really done to earn that reputation? True his rookie season was impressive and he showed real talent but sine then he has beaten Wurz (just) who hadn't raced full ti...

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Is he Underestimated as a whole. Yes. A lot use his time at Merc as a yardstick. Forgetting that when the Merc was up for it he got podiums and even a win. When it wasn't for the most part and especially in 2012 he was driving to a time to preserve tyres. As for next year who knows. If Merc hasn't ...

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Fernando has his agenda set! Looking at it from a different perspective, had Massa been competitive throughout 2010 and 2012, Alonso would've probably taken the title. The number 2's job is to take points away from the rivals, something Webber was quite proficient at doing in RBR. Alonso knows he's...

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Now this is good! Some people will still bang on about how he demands number one status but this pretty much debunked that theory. I think its just sound bites really and it would be bad to be seen to be beaten by a driver who is not one of the best drivers in the world, even when Massa was quicker...

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Overall, Rosberg is seriously underrated. A great majority of fans have no reference points apart from team mate comparisons, and are unable to gauge the relative merits of any driver compared to their peers in other teams. The only other tool available for them is history, and the inaccurate and f...

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latvala... http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA_l6fOCAAMpacG.jpg http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA_JGQ1CAAA9Ezz.jpg http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA_Uj7qCMAAuf9i.jpg Its a shame to see that Latvala is still crashing out of rallys, also that we never got to see Loeb and Ogier go head to head against one another o...

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Yeah but it didn't work out so well last time did it and he struggled to beat Petrov last year. :? I'm just wondering is this an altered universe where all the things that went wrong for McLaren in the real universe, never happened? I think you will find that Karthikeyan in a red bull and vettel in...

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Interesting 3 votes for Heikki so far, we're talking about him driving for McLaren :? Yeah but it didn't work out so well last time did it and he struggled to beat Petrov last year. :? I'm just wondering is this an altered universe where all the things that went wrong for McLaren in the real univer...

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Interesting 3 votes for Heikki so far, we're talking about him driving for McLaren :? Yeah but it didn't work out so well last time did it and he struggled to beat Petrov last year. :? I'm just wondering is this an altered universe where all the things that went wrong for McLaren in the real univer...

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Interesting 3 votes for Heikki so far, we're talking about him driving for McLaren

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Very interesting concept and not at all straight forward apart from Heikki getting most poles in the McLaren, the best 3 cars no doubt were Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari, the best car in terms of performance and car/team reliability and consistency over the season was the Red Bull, but could de la R...

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All do respect, I think by now it's a forgone conclusion that Alonso does indeed command #1 status at Ferrari. The whole "Fernando is Faster than You" incident was all we needed for confirmation of that distinction and we certainly got it. Having said that, "IF" Felipe Baby shoots right out of the ...

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Johnston wrote:
pokerman wrote: So why did he win?

Because he was quickest.

He was quickest in a slower car?

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:thumbup: everybody knows its a colloquialism, fastidious pedants at work. Brundle used that phrase practically every race in relation to Alonso last year. Damon Hill also uses it. Don't suggest "Vettel is on fire" the literal police will jump on you. I would say it was a colloquialism, however I h...

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Johnston wrote:
pokerman wrote: Well there is rumours there could be new owners so it would be for them to decide the driver line up

Could also be two drivers are having a bit of a bidding war and they are waiting to see who comes up trumps.

Might not even di Resta be doubtful and simply be bought out?

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According to rumours FI are in severe financial problems and their future in F1 is at stake. According to the source Bernie has a plan to save the team which potentially involves having Briatore as team manager. Surely Briatore must be banned for life from running a F1 team? Sadly not it would appe...

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Even if they are in trouble they have to carry on to be attractive to buyers Another Bomb on this news! Force India don't plan to reveal the 2nd driver before or on the day of the launch:- http://www.f1reader.com/#/news/force-india-won-039-t-name-driver-at-launch-65623 This is getting BIZARRE ! Wel...

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:thumbup: everybody knows its a colloquialism, fastidious pedants at work. Brundle used that phrase practically every race in relation to Alonso last year. Damon Hill also uses it. Don't suggest "Vettel is on fire" the literal police will jump on you. I would say it was a colloquialism, however I h...

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According to rumours FI are in severe financial problems and their future in F1 is at stake. According to the source Bernie has a plan to save the team which potentially involves having Briatore as team manager. Surely Briatore must be banned for life from running a F1 team? I was under the impress...

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Covalent wrote:According to rumours FI are in severe financial problems and their future in F1 is at stake. According to the source Bernie has a plan to save the team which potentially involves having Briatore as team manager.

Surely Briatore must be banned for life from running a F1 team?

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How much money does Diresta bring with him, as currently he's the only driver who has a contract and I wonder how much the buy out clause is to terminate that contract. Is Kobayashi still collecting for a race seat? Out of interest how much money would a driver need to bring with them to get a seat...

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I dont think Alonso would be as subservient as Massa was no matter who told him what to do. I dont think he will be a number 2 for anyone - Massa is gonna have to graft like crazy all the way through the season to come out on top of this potential great battle. The only fear I have is that Ferrari ...

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