and ricciardo is faster than both?Zoue wrote:which means they are pretty much even, I guesspokerman wrote:I guess we all have different methodologies I had Alonso's average for Kimi at 0.28s for the season.KingVoid wrote:0.347s I think
Vettel's 2015 average was 0.24s.
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- Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:18 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
- Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:43 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
- Replies: 2312
- Views: 587627
Re: Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
Feels to me like Merc have been on top of the tyres in two races, Australia and Barcelona where they were significantly faster than the rest. Ferrari are consistently ok on the tyres except at Barcelona where they struggled. RBR have been reasonable everywhere but lack the power to make it count in...
- Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:38 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
Alonso shut the door on Button. Button was down his inside and he cut him off. Erm Alonso had Schumacher on his outside. Where was he supposed to go? Yes we are counting FP crashes if it stops the driver from qualifying. Max has been torn apart by the media this week for doing exactly what Alonso d...
- Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:27 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
Regarding the cross comparison between Vettel and Alonso using Raikkonen, I always thought that one was a bit skewed just because of how shockingly poor Kimi was in the first half of 2014. From Australia to Hungary, the average gap between Alonso and Raikkonen was 0.694 seconds. That is basically J...
- Thu May 31, 2018 3:35 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
Alonso vs Vettel. Although they have been in the F1 pack along side each other for a long time i don't think there has been a lot of comparitive info Sebastian was in the top car 2010 - 2013, Fernando wasn't Put Fernando in a top car and i believe he will match Seb in qualifying and the race I know...
- Thu May 31, 2018 3:31 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
I don’t think that Alonso drove better than Vettel did in 2010. People will remember Vettels mistakes in Turkey and Belgium; but Alonso’s are ignored. Alonso made mistakes in Australia, China, Monaco, Silverstone and Belgium. He could have won the WDC by over 40 points without those mistakes. Yes, ...
- Tue May 29, 2018 10:13 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2018 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 498
- Views: 117675
Re: 2018 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread
Agree - Alonso should spend more time in the wind tunnel designing these cars.
- Thu May 24, 2018 11:19 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2018 Monaco Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 238
- Views: 59475
Re: 2018 Monaco Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Ferrari's long runs looked very good. Seems to me that they are holding back their one lap pace.
- Tue May 22, 2018 9:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
The two drivers being discussed above there is a constant between them which separates them, it's what has seen one triumph and the other fail. Vettel: rather than drive around a problem and look great and be thought of as out driving the car, would rather iron out what the problems are and get the...
- Tue May 22, 2018 9:46 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
There's a lot of misleading commentary in here at the moment. All this talk about 1 tenth or 2 tenths. First of all, the average gap between drivers is a terrible statistic because a single session can skew the numbers by a huge amount. The median gap would be a much better stat to use. Secondly, b...
- Tue May 22, 2018 12:25 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
- Replies: 2312
- Views: 587627
Re: Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
so pecking order for Monaco? What we know so far is that Ferrari is better at the power circuits and better at getting heat into the tyres. Conversely, Mercedes seem better on twisty parts and have slightly better tyre life. Lot's of people have Red Bull as the favourites but i think qualifying (and...
- Mon May 14, 2018 10:58 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
It completely disproves your point.
Newey at Williams (Chief Designer) had no say on drivers.
Newey at Mclaren (Technical Director) did have a say on drivers.
Allison at Ferrari (Technical Director) also had a say on drivers, but he couldn't convince Alonso to stay.
Newey at Williams (Chief Designer) had no say on drivers.
Newey at Mclaren (Technical Director) did have a say on drivers.
Allison at Ferrari (Technical Director) also had a say on drivers, but he couldn't convince Alonso to stay.
- Mon May 14, 2018 10:41 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Spanish Grand Prix
- Replies: 43
- Views: 10681
Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Spanish Grand Prix
The tyres would have lasted and it was impossible to overtake anyway.
Just a strange decision to stop a 2nd time.
Just a strange decision to stop a 2nd time.
- Mon May 14, 2018 10:34 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Spanish Grand Prix
- Replies: 43
- Views: 10681
Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Spanish Grand Prix
We're talking about driver of the day, not strategist of the day.
- Mon May 14, 2018 10:28 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
Newey wasn't TD at Williams. That's the only thing you get from my post? Semantics. Newey was a far more powerful man in the Williams setup than Allison was at Ferrari. Not that it matters. :lol: Rubbish. Why do you think Newey left? Because he wanted financial shares in the team as part of his pay...
- Mon May 14, 2018 10:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Spanish Grand Prix
- Replies: 43
- Views: 10681
Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Spanish Grand Prix
Hamilton gets driver of the day, while Vettel doesn't get mentioned by anyone. Shows how fickle the majority of F1 fans are.
- Mon May 14, 2018 10:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
Rubbish.mikeyg123 wrote:That's the only thing you get from my post? Semantics. Newey was a far more powerful man in the Williams setup than Allison was at Ferrari.davidheath461 wrote:Newey wasn't TD at Williams.
Not that it matters.
Why do you think Newey left?
- Sun May 13, 2018 5:53 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
- Replies: 2312
- Views: 587627
Re: Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
Okay, so now that we've had a moment to let this last race sink in, let's take a look at this bizarre season to date: 1. Australia-Hamilton sets pole with ease and, while Bottas did not complete a lap in Q3 and had to start 10th, he was close enough to Hamilton in Q2 that we can assume he would hav...
- Sun May 13, 2018 5:46 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
- Replies: 2312
- Views: 587627
Re: Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
Yep. Pirelli just handed the championship to Mercedes. While other teams designed their cars for the tire compounds and thicknesses speced, Mercedes got Pirelli to change it to suit their car. The only competitive season in half a decade just got gifted to them. Fell asleep after the safety car and...
- Sun May 13, 2018 5:43 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
- Replies: 2312
- Views: 587627
Re: Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
The change of tyres is only for another 2 grand prixs? Pirelli need to leave F1, they are awful. “Aggressive” tyres will make Spanish GP a break from the norm – Pirelli The norm being a 1 stop strategy, if you don't get a safety car or rain then the racing is rubbish. Can't have the majority of gra...
- Sun May 13, 2018 5:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
- Replies: 2312
- Views: 587627
Re: Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
The change of tyres is only for another 2 grand prixs? Pirelli need to leave F1, they are awful. “Aggressive” tyres will make Spanish GP a break from the norm – Pirelli The norm being a 1 stop strategy, if you don't get a safety car or rain then the racing is rubbish. Can't have the majority of gra...
- Sun May 13, 2018 4:38 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
- Replies: 2312
- Views: 587627
Re: Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
The change of tyres is only for another 2 grand prixs? Pirelli need to leave F1, they are awful. “Aggressive” tyres will make Spanish GP a break from the norm – Pirelli The norm being a 1 stop strategy, if you don't get a safety car or rain then the racing is rubbish. Can't have the majority of gra...
- Wed May 09, 2018 9:01 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2018 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 279
- Views: 57023
Re: 2018 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Most other weather forecasts are saying it will be dry and sunny.
- Mon May 07, 2018 10:00 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
Newey wasn't TD at Williams.
- Mon May 07, 2018 9:33 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
Their TD wanted him to stay.
- Mon May 07, 2018 9:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
That doesn't explain why Ferrari let him leave. He was under contract. It also doesn't explain why they haven't tried to resign him. Well James Allison did his best to convince him to stay, but Alonso wanted to leave. No team will keep a driver against his will. They have not tried to re-sign him b...
- Mon May 07, 2018 7:59 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
wow, heated discussions, really? ;) Zoue, i think you should perhaps not buy into the sensationalism that certain media outlets add to their articles. In terms of hard evidence, there's nothing that indicates that Alonso burnt his bridges with Ferrari. Apart from the fact they let him leave his con...
- Mon May 07, 2018 6:49 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
wow, heated discussions, really? ;) Zoue, i think you should perhaps not buy into the sensationalism that certain media outlets add to their articles. In terms of hard evidence, there's nothing that indicates that Alonso burnt his bridges with Ferrari. Apart from the fact they let him leave his con...
- Mon May 07, 2018 6:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
- Replies: 2312
- Views: 587627
Re: Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
I'd suggest it's not down to Vettel having a nightmare. Vettel's usually quite open about not being comfortable and so far he's not said anything to suggest that might be the case. It seems more likely that Kimi is managing to exploit the car's one lap pace, if not necessarily the race pace :?: htt...
- Mon May 07, 2018 6:16 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
you appear to be fixating on this. But people have given you answers for this, just not what you want or believe, it seems :lol: "The relationship was strained" is not an answer! By that reasoning, Hamilton burnt his bridges at Mclaren because the relationship was also strained there. I think you k...
- Mon May 07, 2018 4:32 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
- Replies: 2312
- Views: 587627
Re: Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
I'd suggest it's not down to Vettel having a nightmare. Vettel's usually quite open about not being comfortable and so far he's not said anything to suggest that might be the case. It seems more likely that Kimi is managing to exploit the car's one lap pace, if not necessarily the race pace :?: htt...
- Mon May 07, 2018 4:28 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2018 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 279
- Views: 57023
Re: 2018 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
One of my least favorite tracks but looking forward to this race weekend. Almost all teams will be getting major upgrades & the pecking order will get more defined going into the European leg. McLaren are keeping big hopes pinned on the upgrade they're bringing here. If teams found major errors in ...
- Mon May 07, 2018 4:26 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2018 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 279
- Views: 57023
Re: 2018 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
0.4mm has been shaved off the surface of the tyres for this weekend at the request of Mercedes. This should help teams that struggle to control tyre temperature. Let’s see if Mercedes are actually being held back by the tyres, or if Ferrari just have a better chassis. Mercedes seem to suffer tyre h...
- Mon May 07, 2018 4:23 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
you appear to be fixating on this. But people have given you answers for this, just not what you want or believe, it seems :lol: "The relationship was strained" is not an answer! By that reasoning, Hamilton burnt his bridges at Mclaren because the relationship was also strained there. I think you k...
- Mon May 07, 2018 4:22 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
you appear to be fixating on this. But people have given you answers for this, just not what you want or believe, it seems :lol: "The relationship was strained" is not an answer! By that reasoning, Hamilton burnt his bridges at Mclaren because the relationship was also strained there. McLaren would...
- Mon May 07, 2018 4:20 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: When, and to where, will Ricciardo move? [A: 2019, Renault]
- Replies: 643
- Views: 187086
Re: when, and to where, will the Ricciardo move take place?
I'm not sure the first is true. The Red Bulls look to be on a par with the others in race pace and it's only their power deficit in qualifying which puts them at a disadvantage. Renault claim - which I'll admit is not the same as proof - that they have major engine and fuel upgrade coming, so that ...
- Mon May 07, 2018 3:59 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso and Vettel
- Replies: 1029
- Views: 239584
Re: Alonso and Vettel
Zoue wrote: you appear to be fixating on this. But people have given you answers for this, just not what you want or believe, it seems
"The relationship was strained" is not an answer!
By that reasoning, Hamilton burnt his bridges at Mclaren because the relationship was also strained there.
- Mon May 07, 2018 11:16 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: When, and to where, will Ricciardo move? [A: 2019, Renault]
- Replies: 643
- Views: 187086
Re: when, and to where, will the Ricciardo move take place?
I'm not sure the first is true. The Red Bulls look to be on a par with the others in race pace and it's only their power deficit in qualifying which puts them at a disadvantage. Renault claim - which I'll admit is not the same as proof - that they have major engine and fuel upgrade coming, so that ...
- Mon May 07, 2018 10:18 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: When, and to where, will Ricciardo move? [A: 2019, Renault]
- Replies: 643
- Views: 187086
Re: when, and to where, will the Ricciardo move take place?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: it makes zero sense for Dan to leave Red Bull at the moment. They are improving practically with every race and once again look like they have the best chassis, even overcoming their PU deficit in races. With the new engine regulations around the corner wh...
- Mon May 07, 2018 10:15 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: When, and to where, will Ricciardo move? [A: 2019, Renault]
- Replies: 643
- Views: 187086
Re: when, and to where, will the Ricciardo move take place?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: it makes zero sense for Dan to leave Red Bull at the moment. They are improving practically with every race and once again look like they have the best chassis, even overcoming their PU deficit in races. With the new engine regulations around the corner wh...