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- Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:35 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 795
- Views: 47864
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
The question is with each passing year that Merc and Hamilton continue their dominance does it hurt Max Verstappen’s long term legacy in the sport? It seems like he doesn’t maximize his opportunities on many occasions - none clearer than today. It’s always interesting to read these old threads back...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:27 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 381
- Views: 12743
Re: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
You would leave the car there to be potentially hit by another car. Of course, that's how it used to be done. I fail to see why a stranded car should be retrieved, and I fail even harder at trying to understand why a stranded car should be an excuse to bunch up the field behind a spectacle car and ...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:50 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 381
- Views: 12743
Re: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:42 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 381
- Views: 12743
Re: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
Street tracks are totally different and actually in Australia we saw why that is. Parts strewn all over the track which is very, I mean really very unlikely to happen with gravel traps. A car stuck in a gravel trap brings out a SC. It does, but do we see many cars beached these days? Of course ther...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:40 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 381
- Views: 12743
Re: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:42 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 381
- Views: 12743
Re: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 381
- Views: 12743
Re: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:06 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Yeah, much like Magnussen in Jeddah. It was as controversial back then as it was today. Brake-testing? Unpredictable moving under braking? Edit: What Magnussen and Rosberg did were unfair or not (debatable), but clearly different to the Vettel-Verstappen-(to a lesser degree) Alonso type of antics, ...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:35 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
:thumbup: Very nice find. Yes, as I wrote, with Senna the times of respect driving started to change. Still, no brake-testing or unpredictable moving under braking involved here as far as I can see. Squeezing became more common, yes, as I wrote. And you are also right regarding social media. I woul...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:33 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
- Replies: 1538
- Views: 172236
Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Not exactly F1 news but there is a link. Liberty set to take over ownership of Moto GP. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/motor-racing-f1-owner-liberty-media-set-to-take-over-motogp-sky-reports/ar-BB1kQfRl?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=549f0a81d58c4b939b3bdb6c1b8d4e08&ei=45 How long until we get...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:27 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Racing could be just as unfair in the 80s just perhaps in different ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulV75GP2CiU If this sequence of events involving Senna and Rosberg happened today nobody would ever stop talking about it. There was just no social media back then to magnify controversies. :th...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:00 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
- Replies: 1538
- Views: 172236
Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Not exactly F1 news but there is a link. Liberty set to take over ownership of Moto GP. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/motor-racing-f1-owner-liberty-media-set-to-take-over-motogp-sky-reports/ar-BB1kQfRl?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=549f0a81d58c4b939b3bdb6c1b8d4e08&ei=45 How long until we get...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:22 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
- Replies: 1538
- Views: 172236
Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Not exactly F1 news but there is a link. Liberty set to take over ownership of Moto GP. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/motor-racing-f1-owner-liberty-media-set-to-take-over-motogp-sky-reports/ar-BB1kQfRl?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=549f0a81d58c4b939b3bdb6c1b8d4e08&ei=45 How long until we get...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:36 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 843
- Views: 32708
Re: Silly Season 2025
The fact that he tried to get rid of Horner. I'm not so sure that's what was really being tried. I would get nervous if Jos started to talk negatively about the one person in all of this turmoil who is truly indispensible: Adrian Newey. You deny that Jos tried to get rid of Horner. https://metro.co...
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:47 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Do you think that drivers should drive in a predictable manner? This is the essential question that is being asked. I think that brake testing and moving in braking zones should not be allowed. Fair enough, it is a valid stance in this discussion. I think unsettling another driver by lifting premat...
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 843
- Views: 32708
Re: Silly Season 2025
Maybe someone should tell Jos that. What makes you think Jos Verstappen doesn't know that? The fact that he tried to get rid of Horner. I'm not so sure that's what was really being tried. I would get nervous if Jos started to talk negatively about the one person in all of this turmoil who is truly ...
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:50 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
I think Hill has a point though and as others have pointed out, the fact that Russell crashed played a major role in the Stewards handing out a penalty. Are drivers no longer permitted to try to wrong-foot others? It's so obvious that outcome determines punishment, a driver avoids a brake test then...
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:36 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 843
- Views: 32708
Re: Silly Season 2025
We dodn't know what's happening with Verstappen, Red Bull have to be worried about what Jos wants, who runs the team, the Verstappens? Horner seems to think it's him, when drivers look to think they run the team, that the team can't be successful without them then the team might look to weaken thei...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:31 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 843
- Views: 32708
Re: Silly Season 2025
Marko doesn't have to sign for Mercedes for Verstappen to go there. clearly. at the moment there are all kinds of "reports" that Verstappen to Merc is a done deal. no way that has happened right now, for next year. how ugly do you think it gets if Jos tells RB his son wants out? I'm guessing it get...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:49 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Came here to see just how strongly Fiki would be defending the indefensible Alonso, wasn't disappointed. I missed your reaction (answering another post I think), but glad I didn't disappoint! :D But seriously, I'm still not really convinced by the penalty, in view of the stewards' explanation. Or p...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:26 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The big 6 then the rest?
- Replies: 924
- Views: 26154
Re: The big 6 then the rest?
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:49 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The big 6 then the rest?
- Replies: 924
- Views: 26154
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:53 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Yes I am saying that and he touched his brakes on a place on the track where you shouldn't have to even slow down, what they said was the main slowing was lifting off and down shifting. But still you said that Alonso did a brake check... Just for giggles, was it? I think I can because he touched hi...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
4. Despite having telemetry data which I'm sure could prove a throttle issue Aston Martin have decided not to defend their driver. We don't know what was discussed but didn't make it into the stewards' report. And Aston Martin didn't protest the penalty, which is not the same as failing to defend y...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:47 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Yes that's what I watched, it mysteriously appeared after Russell crashed, how come that was wasn't used in defence of Alonso, maybe because it was not actually true. If it wasn't actually true, then how was Alonso able to fake it? Answers on a postcard for the lucky draw! :D Staccato application o...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:43 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Diplomacy Alonso touched his brakes where you don't normally look to brake. So you're saying that the stewards are diplomatic about Alonso not having done a brake check, even explaining that it was not the main reason why Alonso's car slowed, yet giving him a penalty equal to a drive-through. Is th...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:23 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
4. Despite having telemetry data which I'm sure could prove a throttle issue Aston Martin have decided not to defend their driver. We don't know what was discussed but didn't make it into the stewards' report. And Aston Martin didn't protest the penalty, which is not the same as failing to defend y...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:49 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
I wonder what we might make of Alonso trying to say he had a throttle peddle problem immediately after seeing that Russell had crashed, wanting it confirmed by his engineer, strangely he had no such problem before the corner, that quickly seems to have melted away. It seems there was a problem with...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:37 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
It was a brake check causing another driver to crash for me I would have black flagged him out of the race. Of course you would, but on what grounds? Even the stewards don't agree with you calling it a brake check. Here's how the stewards describe that is wasn't a brake check: Telemetry shows that ...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:10 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
I think calling it a brake test is a little unfair, even if it technically was one. The spirit of what Alonso was doing, wasn't to brake test Russell in the way we understand the term brake test. I've no reason to disbelieve Alonso, his recount seems like what he was trying to do, and what happened...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:07 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
I think calling it a brake test is a little unfair, even if it technically was one. The spirit of what Alonso was doing, wasn't to brake test Russell in the way we understand the term brake test. I've no reason to disbelieve Alonso, his recount seems like what he was trying to do, and what happened...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:06 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
20 second penalty for Alonso. Drops to P8. Wow, that's a far more major penalty than has been handed out recently. It was a brake check causing another driver to crash for me I would have black flagged him out of the race. Of course you would, but on what grounds? Even the stewards don't agree with...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:09 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
I think calling it a brake test is a little unfair, even if it technically was one. The spirit of what Alonso was doing, wasn't to brake test Russell in the way we understand the term brake test. I've no reason to disbelieve Alonso, his recount seems like what he was trying to do, and what happened...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:23 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Brake test or whatever, its poor from a pro driver in that scenario to panic at the helm and go off..he wasnt that close In other news, alonso gets twice the penalty that max got for jeddah 2021, a far more obvious amd dangerous move. Alonso did similar in defense on hamilton hungary 2021 turn 1 ex...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:19 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
20 second penalty for Alonso. Drops to P8. Wow, that's a far more major penalty than has been handed out recently. It was a brake check causing another driver to crash for me I would have black flagged him out of the race. Of course you would, but on what grounds? Even the stewards don't agree with...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:27 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Brake test or whatever, its poor from a pro driver in that scenario to panic at the helm and go off..he wasnt that close In other news, alonso gets twice the penalty that max got for jeddah 2021, a far more obvious amd dangerous move. Alonso did similar in defense on hamilton hungary 2021 turn 1 ex...
- Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 843
- Views: 32708
Re: Silly Season 2025
Sainz is in a slight predicament imo.... I wonder if Mercedes is worth going to considering their yearly struggles to understand their car. Red Bull seat no. 2 is the sole seat in the top teams made for a no.2 driver as per position in the team. Even if Sainz is given an equal opportunity, getting ...
- Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:46 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 11640
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
I hear urgency in his voice, not panic. I would even say, anything but panic.UnlikeUday wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:55 amPanic in Russell's voice & expectedly where he was stuck hanging....
- Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:20 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 278
- Views: 8182
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
This is the crucial bit. If's and but's. They way they dealt it though, Logan's frustration is a certainty. Logan won't feel happy about it, that's a certainty. But I think the team should make him understand that he largely saved the team's weekend. I'm astounded by the number of mistakes we see t...
- Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:09 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 278
- Views: 8182
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Siao7 & t2jd1967>You're talking about what feels right, and whos fault it is, but those arguments don't have any value in this situation. Formula 1 is big business, and just like it's the managements job to make unpleasant decisions about their employees in any other business, it is also the Willia...