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Something interesting Karun has said: 1709111696223035754 It's the wrong way round to frame it IMO. By not having a full grid it should be viewed that the teams have been getting more than their usual share. That should be regarded as a bonus rather than the grid getting a bit closer to being full ...

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Something interesting Karun has said: 1709111696223035754 It's the wrong way round to frame it IMO. By not having a full grid it should be viewed that the teams have been getting more than their usual share. That should be regarded as a bonus rather than the grid getting a bit closer to being full ...

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You're either good enough or you're not and trialing drivers in F1 cars is pointless unless they're evaluating them for a potential seat. If that's not the goal, it's a waste of everyone's time and money. You know better than that. The teams are well compensated for running worthless drivers in 'te...

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Andretti is officially in!

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Great move for Aston, they test out a real driver & get massive amount of woke PR attention by wheeling out their attractive blonde "Driver Ambassador" for a test. Not at all IMPO. Like DOLOMITE stated… If you're not fielding an excellent driver there's no point really, and the ONLY thing that matt...

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Probably correct???!? I've been saying 2012 Lewis lost the WDC due to his team, not because of anything he did or didn't do. If you go back and watch Qualy that season Vettel was turning in unbelievable laps that EVERYONE (including Vettel) thought holy cow, he/I just laid down he gauntlet!… Only to...

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OMG I almost spat my iced tea all over my computer just now…

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If DRS is here to stay, then if a vote for 'a limited number of uses per race' option was there then I'd vote for that. I do a bit of sim racing and am currently racing hybrid touring cars, which have 15 uses of hybrid boost per race and can be used any time, regardless of the gap to other cars. It...

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Either abandon it completely or allow drivers to use it all the time everywhere. I bet there would be someone developing unique way of using it where no one else dares. If abandoned completely, you rely on "whoever brakes last wins" and I'm ok with that. Having said that it would also mean much bet...

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Couple more suggestions I've heard in discussions Set number of times a driver can use it per race Deactivate it for last 5 laps of the race (not fair that a driver who had led all race to be sitting duck) What I'm curious about is whether it's lost it's context. I thought its origins were a soluti...

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Couple more suggestions I've heard in discussions Set number of times a driver can use it per race Deactivate it for last 5 laps of the race (not fair that a driver who had led all race to be sitting duck) What I'm curious about is whether it's lost it's context. I thought its origins were a soluti...

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Get rid of it altogether. Real men can overtake without any aides. Kimi and Alonso's incredible outside overtakes were that much more sensational because they had to FIRST… have the cojones to do so, and SECOND… be extremely great drivers to be abel to set up such moves. Famgio, Clarke, Moss, Schuma...

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You’re quite literally comical. Not all composite components flex. Nose cones and the entirety of the body panels on an F1 car do not flex at all. You’d know if you’ve seen and/or touched one in person. Same goes for Indy and Champ Cars. I actually sat inside of several champ and Indy cars over the...

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Just because composites tend to have a certain amount of flexure DOES NOT mean you cannot build it in a way that makes an absolutely rigid component. Geometric shapes can dramatically affect the physical capabilities of materials. F1 car floors for example are made ultra thin but have relatively li...

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Just because composites tend to have a certain amount of flexure DOES NOT mean you cannot build it in a way that makes an absolutely rigid component. Geometric shapes can dramatically affect the physical capabilities of materials. F1 car floors for example are made ultra thin but have relatively li...

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Just because composites tend to have a certain amount of flexure DOES NOT mean you cannot build it in a way that makes an absolutely rigid component. Geometric shapes can dramatically affect the physical capabilities of materials. F1 car floors for example are made ultra thin but have relatively lit...

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Clearly I've touched a nerve here :lol: I must have missed this as an off-topic discussion in another thread. I'd just say that the tests themselves are not the rule and deceiving an inadequete test doesnt make the car legal it makes the test obsolete, if the FIA determine that teams are beating th...

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Here we go again? When did we go the first time? Are you saying if something goes undetected then it becomes legal? Don't understand your argument. This topic (not illegal if you are passing the tests that the FIA put in place) was discussed in length (ad nauseum?) over the summer break. He's sayin...

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You missed the main part about an END RESULT not being allowed as per the regulations. If flexible bodywork isn't allowed, then having a considerable amount flex on components on a car is illegal as per the rules. Having worked with composites for decades I know a little bit about the subject and I ...

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I don't see why they need to announce a clampdown on something illegal in advance. I'd be all up for suddenly clamping down on something illegal the same day Here we go again. It is not illegal per the regulations, otherwise the cars would not pass scrutineering and the team and drivers would be ex...

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I don't see why they need to announce a clampdown on something illegal in advance. I'd be all up for suddenly clamping down on something illegal the same day Yeah agreed. It's either illegal or it isn't. If it's illegal, disqualify the cars that run the flexing wing (or whatever else it might be). ...

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I saw that but I think Massa is merely looking to be compensated for monies he lost out on for not having won the WDC. Certainly his Ferrari bonus and potentially endorsement deals he might have had in place that were contingent on him becoming the champion in 2008. If he can prove any of that the F...

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You buy the team, you buy the entry and avoid having to pay the huge entry fee. That's where the massive valuation comes from. I don't know, setting up a team from scratch must cost serious money, in particular if you have to built all the infrastructure yourself including the wind tunnel and getti...

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Well, it seems like they are... It's obviously not all the entry but it mainly is. Even if Liberty and the teams do relent it seems like the entry fee won't be less than around $700 million. So that's the bulk of the value right there. Like I said, a few sources state Haas' value is closer to the $...

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So apparently at Haas there is a big lawsuit brewing up as Steiner thinks he was promised 50% of the team (presently valued at ~$900 million, with Steiner's alleged share worth $450 mn) and Gene Haas thinking he wasn't promised any such thing. There seems to be something to this. Steiner stated not...

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Redbulls drs advantage has not gone anywhere. It is just apparent only when they run their low drag configuration. May not make sense to some but it is how it works. Rbr also ran a heavier wing than normal at spa. But you should see their drs effect in full force in monza if it isnt banned by then....

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So apparently at Haas there is a big lawsuit brewing up as Steiner thinks he was promised 50% of the team (presently valued at ~$900 million, with Steiner's alleged share worth $450 mn) and Gene Haas thinking he wasn't promised any such thing. There seems to be something to this. Steiner stated not...

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According to Binotto, the 'price' per tenth is about a million (I assume this is in dollars?). The overspend amount they were punished for, is about $ 2.37M (current rate, I have no idea how much it was in 2022 at the time of the report), so ostensibly worth just under 2.4 tenths per lap. If you co...

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The punishment started in late 2022, and is still on going. The effect of the penalty is that their car isn't as fast as it could be this year, and next year's car may or may not be impacted as well depending on how much they let the penalty impact their 2023 development vs. 2024 development. If Fe...

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Complaining about Red Bull’s overspend in 2023 is like complaining about Mercedes’ secret tyre test in 2015. The idea that non-Verstappen fans wouldn’t be moaning endlessly if it wasn’t for that overspend is absolutely hilarious though. They would just find something else to complain about. Quit th...

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Complaining about Red Bull’s overspend in 2023 is like complaining about Mercedes’ secret tyre test in 2015. The idea that non-Verstappen fans wouldn’t be moaning endlessly if it wasn’t for that overspend is absolutely hilarious though. They would just find something else to complain about. Quit th...

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You have literally no idea if and if so how many adjustments were made with other teams' submissions. The FIA does not disclose this information, hence we are left with only the Red Bull ABA to examine. As someone with extensive experience working with accountants (but luckily no more), I can tell ...

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Let me first remind you of what the FIA explained in their full report on the case: More specifically concerning where the overspend occured: I wonder what your guarantee is worth, considering my reply to t2 above. Thanks for repeating these wonderful reports. :thumbup: RB wrongly declares expenses...

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You would have to be able to show, that the overspend was necessary for the design arrived at, to be dominant. Can you? (I made a quick calculation of what part of the current advantage the amount of overspend could be held to represent, and it's a very worthwhile exercise.) If not, you are simply ...

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Let me first remind you of what the FIA explained in their full report on the case: More specifically concerning where the overspend occured: I wonder what your guarantee is worth, considering my reply to t2 above. Thanks for repeating these wonderful reports. :thumbup: RB wrongly declares expenses...

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Coulda Woulda Shoulda... The point is that RB could have claimed a 'research' tax credit that would have written off the vast majority of the overspend. I assume that this was part of the FIA / F1's reasoning when applying the budget overspend sanction. So what you're saying is they overspent by X ...

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Part of it surely has to do with pay Drivers being able to hold onto their seats because the teams likely already know what they have with said drivers and the money they bring in year after year is a sure thing, and thus, those are seats that used to be utilized to trial youngsters here and there. ...

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Gosh there was a website that had every single race from 1974 on but for the life of me, I can’t remember the name!!!

They were almost shut down by Bernie Ecclestone in the mid 2000’s but they had a complete archive of every race with pre and post race interviews.

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Yeah, I would agree that there is very credible evidence to support the idea that Red Bull had a form of traction control on their cars in 2013. That doesn't mean it was illegal, though; exploiting a loophole is an error in the rules, not a form of cheating by the team. The law says robbing from ba...

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Yeah, I would agree that there is very credible evidence to support the idea that Red Bull had a form of traction control on their cars in 2013. That doesn't mean it was illegal, though; exploiting a loophole is an error in the rules, not a form of cheating by the team. The law says robbing from ba...

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