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The main issue is the spray pattern created by the tyre as they clear water. The wet weather tyre is providing sufficient grip but generating too much spray in a way that cars behind cant see a thing. Pirelli need to urgently look into this and come up with a wet weather tyre with a better spray pa...

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The fact is that you can't do anything to counter heavy rain, its nature, you can however, plan and have contingencies for it though. Simply allow for an extra day and cancel stating this contingency on the ticket and take out insurance to cover that eventuality financially. What was inexcusable was...

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In what amounts to an admission they got it wrong Formula 1 is to make rule changes to prevent a recurrence of the events surrounding the controversial abandonment of the Belgian Grand Prix. At least they recognised they got it wrong so I guess thats a good thing. Lets hope the changes are sensible.

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Why cancel the race any earlier, what exactly does that give you? That is the point though, the race wasn't cancelled, it was just turned into a pretend race instead. They didn't need to reschedule there and then, but they did need to cancel the race to be able to do so later. Elsewhere its being s...

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Why cancel the race any earlier, what exactly does that give you? That is the point though, the race wasn't cancelled, it was just turned into a pretend race instead. They didn't need to reschedule there and then, but they did need to cancel the race to be able to do so later. Elsewhere its being s...

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Why cancel the race any earlier, what exactly does that give you? That is the point though, the race wasn't cancelled, it was just turned into a pretend race instead. They didn't need to reschedule there and then, but they did need to cancel the race to be able to do so later. Elsewhere its being s...

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My point is they didn't need to negotiate anything, they just needed to recognise that the race had to be cancelled . Instead they decided to parade the cars for 2 laps and award points for playing follow my leader. This wasn't a snap decision they had hours to think it through! They invoked the reg...

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It also means if the same circumstances occur elsewhere at other circuits you CAN NOT cancel as a precedent has been set. Sets up the prospect of a farcical repeat. Just weak officiating and administration by all those concerned.

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Sorry but that is embarrassing, it does nothing for the sport and makes it look irrelevant. If there are going to be cancellations due to Covid couldn't it have been rearranged to after Sochi in October since Singapore and Japan are cancelled? The Race Stewards do not have the power to make calenda...

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Sorry but that is embarrassing, it does nothing for the sport and makes it look irrelevant. If there are going to be cancellations due to Covid couldn't it have been rearranged to after Sochi in October since Singapore and Japan are cancelled?

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wire2004 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:02 pm
Delayed start.
Absolute nonsense.

Delayed start.
Absolute sense.

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I'm going for a delayed start, if they start in this it will end up red flagged and delayed anyway.

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Eau rouge and radion has not changed in what. Since 1995 when we have the current specification. And now. In both 2019 and again this year. We have had problems going through this corner and drivers crashing and being either seriously injured or sadly dying. Given the F3 race where 6 cars smashed i...

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Johnson wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:34 am
This is going to be carnage

Agreed, it will be a miracle if there isn't a safety car after two laps!

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A lot of people didn't give GR the credit I thought he deserved when he raced for Mercedes last year. He clearly has serious tallent. People seem desperate to talk George down and it's nice to see him make it more and more difficult for them. The problem he has is he goes backwards in races as he c...

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I see, so that is what Lance Stroll is doing here then, isn't he supposed to do it at the end of the race though?

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I think what we are seeing is that it's ridiculous to include accident damage in budget caps. I do understand this but it would surely just lead teams to pushing the rules on what counts as accident damage and how much each accident costs. What's stopping a team saying that accident cost us $1milli...

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Regardless, they only use a few drops to test fuel so I have never understood the rule for requiring 1 full liter. It's dumb. I suspect its about dilution.If you are looking for additives 1 drop from 10ml would be 100 times the concentration of 1 drop from 1 Litre. A bigger sample makes evaporation...

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Can anyone explain what Hamilton did differently to Alonso or Ocon or Vettel or any of the top 10 drivers which only left him exhausted & dizzy? Was it an antic to neutralize booing fans? What an extraordinary comment! The man was ill and he suspects the reason is long Covid. The problem being you ...

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Max Verstappen's first line of his post-race interview:

"Again, taken out by a Mercedes, so..."

Olympic gold medal for whinging, though still time for his team principal to nick it from him. Getting tedious now!

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The move in question......... 1421507237240090627 . Excellent video, showing Verstappen had plenty of opportunity/space to overtake. Nothing stopping him, other than his own choices. . When in that video could Verstappen have overtaken? So what are you actually saying, the WDC championship leader i...

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Isn't this Christian Horner playing mind games. That is to be seen to be supporting his driver and try to paint Lewis Hamilton in a different, more villainous light. On the collision, some have said it will make MV more aggressive, I think a couple of things might happen, first it might make other d...

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Not an Formula E watcher really, so please can someone explain the qualifying format? Drivers are divided into a number of groups, in order of current championship standing. Those groups go out and qualify sequentially on track, so the first six drivers in championship order qualify first, then the...

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I've read that Honda have taken Verstappen's engine from Silverstone to check for damage, though they believe that it is OK. Interesting, will RB risk it? Ferrari thought Leclerc engine was OK and it went bang. Can engines remain enscathed after a 51G collision with a barrier? Do Red Bull risk it a...

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So Red Bull are introducing a new dynamic to the argument now, money sitting the crash cost the £1.3 million. This is taking whinging and moaning to new levels Mr Horner. They will be sueing Pirelli next because the tyres don't last the race. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57949190 This couple...

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So which set of fans would post racist abuse towards Lewis Hamilton then I wonder? . If ever you wanted to motivate someone that would be the way, I'd suggest. My thought was that it was Hamilton drawing a line in the sand. Surprised at the whinging and suggestions of a race ban by RB and others. Ve...

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But this is a procedure that's about safety, not rules for the sake of it. You're literally arguing to reduce safety. Not sure that what is being said, a second or two earlier Norris would have pitted, In his head Norris though he was going too fast to enter the pit lane with its speed limits. Brak...

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So either there will be no protest or even RB has grounds to protest against Mercedes. https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/85208/mercedes-can-t-say-anything-about-rb16b-footage-shows-flexible-front-wing-of-w12.html It's funny that they quote it as the RB16B front wing, when it is the Mercedes one in the...

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KingVoid wrote: ↑
Thu May 27, 2021 6:57 am
Verstappen’s errors have been minor and nitpicky compared to Hamilton’s Imola and Monaco.

Not sure the errors at Monaco were Hamilton's botched wheel changes on a team member's car indicate they are Mercedes' errors don't they.

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A great article by Gary Anderson: https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-anderson-why-red-bulls-flexi-wing-arguments-make-sense/ If I read this correctly, the deflection limit applies to all relevant parts - including the front wing - and, based on observations, Merc may just be shooting itself in the...

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What I found interesting from Toto's Sky interview was the comment about the front wing. As a reminder he said that the Mercedes front wing and the Red Bull front wing flex the same amount. He further stated that they might protest each other. So Red Bull have a front and rear "Limbo wing" package. ...

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Doesn't it prove the law is broken if you can see the wing moving then or does it have to be a physical process?

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One of those are Monaco races where no VSC/SC scenario & where everyone were at their best behavior! Didn't at least 4 drivers get black and white flags, and some even for blue flags? I would say this is possibly the largest number of these we have seen in a race for many years. Many naughty driver...

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Have to agree, when the only real excitement in the race is when a pit crew can't get a wheel off its a bit dire. Perez was miles faster than Land who had no tyres but still couldn't pass despite 12 laps of trying.

My solution, make the cars 30% smaller. I'm emailing Liberty Media now!

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according to racefans.net, Schumacher has got pole in Q3 and did a lap time of 0'00.000. Incredible! https://www.racefans.net/2021/05/22/leclerc-takes-pole-position-with-crash-in-monaco/#comment-4628107 Now that has to be literally the perfect lap :lol: I need to check out my quantum physics but ca...

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Hamilton throwing his toys out of the pram . After all that rubbish about Verstappen having a point to prove. That pretty normal isn't it? Whats the difference between that and Verstappen saying on the radio, "you've got to sort this *****ng car out" or equivalent. Top teams don't stay top if you d...

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The rear wings are also monitored by cameras which let's the stewards know if the load tests are actually fit for purpose, in this instance seeing how much the rear wings are flexing on some cars they have realised that's not the case so a new test is to be introduced after the next race. It's writ...

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So why are the cameras there then if not to ensure there is no deflection? Why are the FIA implementing a rule change mid June then? The aim is to prevent variable aerodynamics. All the technical specs in the world strive to achieve that but they failed to achieve their goal so need to be changed. A...

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Anyone else get the feeling some of the top drivers might not actually finish? Track limits are quite strictly enforced here.

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Only sort of though. Its simply how you measure the the "literal, objective technical objectives". The camera is there to observe the result, the law says it shouldn't flex under race conditions, the guide is an at rest measurement thats too low. If the teams complied with the criteria of the camera...

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