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Something we see happen pretty regularly at the start with one driver or another. Yet we have never seen a penalty for something like that before or since. Generally the stewards give the drivers an amnesty at the start anyway. Fuji was a massive exception to the excepted convention. In fact you ca...

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Something we see happen pretty regularly at the start with one driver or another. Yet we have never seen a penalty for something like that before or since. Generally the stewards give the drivers an amnesty at the start anyway. Fuji was a massive exception to the excepted convention. In fact you can...

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I know Spa is contentious for some, but what other penalties were bizarre? When Hamilton got penalised for out braking himself into turn 1 in Fuji. We have never seen a penalty handed out for anything like that before or since. Then Massa got the same penalty for actually clobbering into Hamilton l...

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I would say 2008 definitely fits the bill of 'against the odds' inferior car, second season, and some bizarre stewarding. I always think it's a bit of a credit to Hamilton that he managed that whilst having one of his worst seasons! I'm not convinced mikeyg123. Both of them made a lot of errors - e...

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The year before Alonso thrashed Trulli and Trulli was losing form against Alonso before his sacking, now you might want to believe that Trulli was being sabotaged as he claimed? You seem to forget that Massa was driving a different car to Hamilton, you might want to think that the cars were equal b...

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I would say 2008 definitely fits the bill of 'against the odds' inferior car, second season, and some bizarre stewarding. I always think it's a bit of a credit to Hamilton that he managed that whilst having one of his worst seasons! I'm not convinced mikeyg123. Both of them made a lot of errors - e...

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The year before Alonso thrashed Trulli and Trulli was losing form against Alonso before his sacking, now you might want to believe that Trulli was being sabotaged as he claimed? You seem to forget that Massa was driving a different car to Hamilton, you might want to think that the cars were equal bu...

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Went with Kubica, Alesi, and Musso. For me the others don't really stand up above the pack. Kubica would have gone on to win more and Alesi would have won 4/5 with better reliability. Musso is one of my favorite drivers from the 50s so I'm perhaps a little biased there. Fagioli I didn't count as he ...

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If you're being compared to two of the best drivers there have ever been in F1, little wonder if you come out just a tiny little bit short. Boutsen himself said in an interview a few years ago that he wasn't good enough to be a world champion, but I believe he was at least as "good" as Mansell. Why...

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I don't know why people dislike refuelling so much, I have no problem with seeing it come back, it will go along way to allowing drivers to push flat out again when they're no longer trying to maximise tyre life because they may need to refuel anyway. I also don't see how it's artificial in any way...

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Qualifying Pace (one lap pace) - Grosjean Race Pace (pace across 305 km) - Alonso Race Craft (overtaking and defending) - Ricciardo Tyre Management (self-explanatory) - Perez Wet Weather (in heavy rain conditions like qualifying at Austin) - Hulkenberg Changing Conditions (in mixed conditions like t...

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Nice thread - I've done this as the best driver that particular team rather than best through their career. Eg choosing Hamilton for Mercedes instead of Schumacher. Ferrari (1950 - Present) - Schumacher McLaren (1966 - Present) - Senna Williams (1977 - Present) - Mansell Mercedes (2010 - Present) - ...

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I don't know why people dislike refuelling so much, I have no problem with seeing it come back, it will go along way to allowing drivers to push flat out again when they're no longer trying to maximise tyre life because they may need to refuel anyway. I also don't see how it's artificial in any way...

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I do get bored of constantly having to defend Maldanado and I do think Magnussen is probably the better driver but yet again the level of criticism Pastor receives is completely disproportionate. He had a bad season in 2013 and was iratic as f**k in 2012. Other than that he's had a pretty solid care...

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Love him or hate him, but one thing for sure Pastor Maldonado has won 1 GP in his F1 career, something that Kevin Magnussen hasn't achieved. He didn't get that win in his rookie year though, so it's a pretty irrelevant comparison against a driver with only a single year in F1. He's got the same num...

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Pedro Diniz was heavily linked to Benetton for 2000.

During 1997 Hakkinen was linked with a move away from Mclaren. Jordan seeming the most likely.

To be fair the most ridiculous ones seem to happen. Alonso back to Mclaren, Raikkonen back to Ferrari, Damon Hill to Arrows.

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Magnussen is a very good driver but not worth the 35 mil. That money would be better spent on the car than a possible slight driver upgrade.

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Not until 2018 at the earliest.

mikeyg123

The reasons for fans losing interest, as other/s above have said, could be that a favourite driver or team is not winning. For me this is the biggest factor to the complaints these past 2 seasons It's not unique to just the last 2 seasons, it's usually the reason for the bulk of complaints. Not all...

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Mercedes - Hamilton and I don't think Rosberg will be all that close. Ferrari - Vettel very easily and he will fight for the championship. Williams - Bottas will continue to be slightly better Red Bull - Nightmare season ahead for them but I think Ricciardo will be the better driver. Force India - C...

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In both 2007 & 2008 Massa was stellar and up until his accident was muscling that car and doing well despite it's capabilities compared to the top teams. We all agree that hamilton is an all-time great already and Massa matched him blow for blow consistently so it speaks volumes of how good he is. ...

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has any F1 driver ever retired whilst in a dominant car Loads whilst in the best or joint best car - Hawthorn, Stewart, Lauda, Jones, Mansell, Prost and Schumacher I'm not sure you can lump Michael in this. In 2006 he had a very good car, but I wouldn't call it dominant. Probably the equal of the 2...

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slide wrote:has any F1 driver ever retired whilst in a dominant car

Loads whilst in the best or joint best car - Hawthorn, Stewart, Lauda, Jones, Mansell, Prost and Schumacher

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OK, Rosberg has in the last 3 seasons put on a few drives where he was untouchable and he's been quite consistent. To be as close to someone the likes of Lewis is no easy task and he's been right there. How were any of his drives any better than Monaco 2004? I mean, virtually all of Rosberg's wins ...

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Ok provide ONE example where either Trulli or Heidfeld blew us away. Please because I'm dying to know. Trulli leading the Austrian GP in the Prost is something I rather cherish. I'm not easily blown away by other drivers either, but that performance merited ending on the top step of the podium. OK ...

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F1 MERCENARY wrote:Ok provide ONE example where either Trulli or Heidfeld blew us away. Please because I'm dying to know.

Austria 1997? Monaco pole 2004? Both for Trulli.

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I disagree on both of them. Nick was the same throughout his career in F1 and so was Trulli. Again, neither of them were anything special. When Trulli was matching Alonso, Alonso was still learning. Sure Flavio put the brakes on his contention against Alonso but a true great would have marched on a...

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To me Massa did better than Kimi against Alonso. He was able to outqualify him plenty of times even if Alonso still won the majority of the time. But yeah...race pace wise maybe Kimi and Massa were closely matched, but Massa definitely looked better than Kimi on Saturdays. However, when Massa was a...

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Vettel 100.0 Hamilton 100.0 Alonso 100.1 Grosjean 100.1 Bottas 100.1 Rosberg 100.2 Raikkonen 100.3 Button 100.3 Hulhkenberg 100.3 Ricciardo 100.3 Perez 100.4 Magnussen 100.4 Verstappen 100.4 Massa 100.5 Maldonado 100.5 Kvyat 100.5 Nasr 100.6 Ericsson 100.7 Sainz 100.9 Mehri 100.9 Stevens 101.3 Ross...

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Very tough to pick. I would go for - De Angelis Montoya Alboreto Frentzen Boutson Found it almost impossible to decide between Alboreto and Frentzen. Also feel I am being overly harsh on Boutson because all the others had more opportunity to show their talent. More threads like this please :-P :thum...

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I, for one, want to see F1 drivers fight it out on track as sportsmen and professionals giving it their all. Nothing disappoints me more than when they do not. Nigel Mansell 1993. Reigning WDC leaves F1 for CART because he did not want to face Prost as his teammate at Williams. Did Mansell really t...

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I don't really understand why we can't use all drivers for comparison? Why not also look at Ide, Montagney, Albers, Speed ETC Also why include Kubica and not Villenueve, Montoya and not De La Rosa? Your right it's a straight forward question but it feels like you have tried to weight it towards bein...

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Kimi's performance in a Ferrari tally with exactly what logic would tell you it should have done. That is why I don't think he has deteriorated much from his Lotus days. I never rated him as highly as others did in his Lotus days either. I received a lot of stick for this on Autosport forum back in...

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I don't think Kimi's deteriorated much since his time at Lotus TBH. He makes more mistakes but speed wise against Alonso and Vettel he has performed pretty much what I was expecting. Yeah this - his performance relative to Alonso and Vettel is pretty much what you'd expect given his performance rel...

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10. Maldonado (with immensely bad luck, had some of the best overtakes of the season; Spain, when he overtook Mclaren with broken rear wing, and Austria, for me the overtake of the season against Verstappen) 11. Grosjean (One lucky podium and a lot of races where he mixed with average drivers) Real...

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Mansell 1990 and Hill in 1999 Good shout! I will also add Frentzen in 1997. He came to Williams with a reputation of being as fast/if not faster than Schumacher. He had the fastest car, but was largely ourperformed by Villeneuve. Poor qualifying, poor starts, poor tyre management, went missing in t...

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As far as Kimi vs Grosjean, to me it seems that during most of their time together Raikonnen was better but towards the end the tide changed. In my opinion not only Kimi's level went down but Grosjean's went up. I have very little doubt that if you paired them together today who the winner would be...

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As far as Kimi vs Grosjean, to me it seems that during most of their time together Raikonnen was better but towards the end the tide changed. In my opinion not only Kimi's level went down but Grosjean's went up. I have very little doubt that if you paired them together today who the winner would be...

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Mansell 1990 and Hill in 1999 Good shout! I will also add Frentzen in 1997. He came to Williams with a reputation of being as fast/if not faster than Schumacher. He had the fastest car, but was largely ourperformed by Villeneuve. Poor qualifying, poor starts, poor tyre management, went missing in t...

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As far as Kimi vs Grosjean, to me it seems that during most of their time together Raikonnen was better but towards the end the tide changed. In my opinion not only Kimi's level went down but Grosjean's went up. I have very little doubt that if you paired them together today who the winner would be...

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