According to AMuS the answer is yes, Ferrari are weakest. Can't get the link rn but iirc they said...
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Renault (-25bhp)
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Big yikes for Maranello.
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- Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:31 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is the Ferrari engine the weakest on the grid right now?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 7387
- Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:51 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Salty Renault Protest Racing Points Legality.
- Replies: 105
- Views: 18920
Re: Salty Renault Protest Racing Points Legality.
I can't see this punishment surviving the appeals. There is enough grey area there I feel for RP to successfully appeal. And enough grey area to potentially have them removed from the WCC if the others make a strong enough case that running a listed part designed by another constructor makes RP at ...
- Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:37 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Salty Renault Protest Racing Points Legality.
- Replies: 105
- Views: 18920
Re: Salty Renault Protest Racing Points Legality.
Essentially we know they didn't design the RBD, a rival constructor did, so on what basis are RP eligible for prize money this year in the WCC if we're all agreed they are running a part they were supposed to do themselves or through a 3rd party but did not? You can reasonably argue not being able ...
- Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:48 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Salty Renault Protest Racing Points Legality.
- Replies: 105
- Views: 18920
Re: Salty Renault Protest Racing Points Legality.
Essentially we know they didn't design the RBD, a rival constructor did, so on what basis are RP eligible for prize money this year in the WCC if we're all agreed they are running a part they were supposed to do themselves or through a 3rd party but did not? You can reasonably argue not being able t...
- Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:28 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Salty Renault Protest Racing Points Legality.
- Replies: 105
- Views: 18920
Re: Salty Renault Protest Racing Points Legality.
I can't see this punishment surviving the appeals. There is enough grey area there I feel for RP to successfully appeal. And enough grey area to potentially have them removed from the WCC if the others make a strong enough case that running a listed part designed by another constructor makes RP at ...
- Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:32 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Salty Renault Protest Racing Points Legality.
- Replies: 105
- Views: 18920
Re: Salty Renault Protest Racing Points Legality.
So not salty at all, they were right, the RBD are illegal for RP to run this year because they didn't design them at all unlike they initially claimed. The FIA just can't stop them running them anyway without excessively draconian (Fire entire design team and provide fresh design) or potentially dan...
- Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:47 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: He's back.. BBC reporting Alonso has signed for Renault 2021
- Replies: 34
- Views: 6574
Re: He's back.. BBC reporting Alonso has signed for Renault
I read it's a 3 year deal which I'm a bit surprised about but with where Renault are,the additions of his Ferrari friends in Fry and De Beer to go along with Budkowski and with the Budget Cap coming in I guess it makes sense for lack of any top 3 interest to think slightly longer term. I hope Renaul...
- Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:20 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
Abu Dhabi
1. Hamilton
2. Leclerc
3. Vettel
1. Hamilton
2. Leclerc
3. Vettel
- Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:16 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
Brazil
1. Bottas
2. Hamilton
3. Verstappen
1. Bottas
2. Hamilton
3. Verstappen
- Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:11 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Title decided)
- Replies: 1209
- Views: 368255
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (COTA Updated)
Brazil
1. Bottas
2. Hamilton
3. Verstappen
4. Vettel
5. Leclerc
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Norris
9. Ricciardo
10. Gasly
1. Bottas
2. Hamilton
3. Verstappen
4. Vettel
5. Leclerc
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Norris
9. Ricciardo
10. Gasly
- Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:05 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
United States
1. Leclerc
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
1. Leclerc
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
- Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:01 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Title decided)
- Replies: 1209
- Views: 368255
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Suzuka Updated)
United States
1. Hamilton
2. Leclerc
3. Vettel
4. Bottas
5. Verstappen
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Norris
9. Ricciardo
10. Perez
1. Hamilton
2. Leclerc
3. Vettel
4. Bottas
5. Verstappen
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Norris
9. Ricciardo
10. Perez
- Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:44 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
Mexico
1. Leclerc
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
1. Leclerc
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
- Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:43 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Title decided)
- Replies: 1209
- Views: 368255
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Suzuka Updated)
Mexico
1. Leclerc
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
4. Verstappen
5. Bottas
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Grosjean
9. Ricciardo
10. Norris
1. Leclerc
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
4. Verstappen
5. Bottas
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Grosjean
9. Ricciardo
10. Norris
- Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:50 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
Japan
1. Leclerc
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
1. Leclerc
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
- Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:50 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Title decided)
- Replies: 1209
- Views: 368255
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Sochi Updated)
Japan
1. Leclerc
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
4. Verstappen
5. Bottas
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Norris
10. Hulkenberg
1. Leclerc
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
4. Verstappen
5. Bottas
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Norris
10. Hulkenberg
- Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:21 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
Russia
1. Leclerc
2. Hamilton
3. Vettel
1. Leclerc
2. Hamilton
3. Vettel
- Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:19 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Title decided)
- Replies: 1209
- Views: 368255
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Singapore Update
Russia
1. Leclerc
2. Hamilton
3. Vettel
4. Verstappen
5. Bottas
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Norris
10. Hulkenberg
1. Leclerc
2. Hamilton
3. Vettel
4. Verstappen
5. Bottas
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Norris
10. Hulkenberg
- Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:34 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Title decided)
- Replies: 1209
- Views: 368255
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Monza Updated)
Singapore
1. Hamilton
2. Verstappen
3. Leclerc
4. Vettel
5. Bottas
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Hulkenberg
10. Norris
1. Hamilton
2. Verstappen
3. Leclerc
4. Vettel
5. Bottas
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Hulkenberg
10. Norris
- Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:31 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
Singapore
1. Hamilton
2. Verstappen
3. Leclerc
1. Hamilton
2. Verstappen
3. Leclerc
- Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:05 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Title decided)
- Replies: 1209
- Views: 368255
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Spa Updated)
Monza
1. Vettel
2. Leclerc
3. Hamilton
4. Bottas
5. Verstappen
6. Sainz
7. Albon
8. Ricciardo
9. Norris
10. Hulkenberg
1. Vettel
2. Leclerc
3. Hamilton
4. Bottas
5. Verstappen
6. Sainz
7. Albon
8. Ricciardo
9. Norris
10. Hulkenberg
- Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:03 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
Monza
1. Vettel
2. Leclerc
3. Hamilton
1. Vettel
2. Leclerc
3. Hamilton
- Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Renault at 1000bhp ?
- Replies: 40
- Views: 12950
Re: Renault at 1000bhp ?
When did Renault brag they had the biggest budget and most powerful engine? As for the engine, this thread is about Renault claiming 1,000 hp and their competitors responding by saying that their own power units aren't producing 1,000 hp. Renault also claim 960 to 970 hp in racing trim, which is si...
- Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:15 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Renault at 1000bhp ?
- Replies: 40
- Views: 12950
Re: Renault at 1000bhp ?
Red Bull matters because they are better than McLaren and Renault while using the engine whose relative merit you're arguing against in favor of Renault's engine. I don't think anyone in the world is arguing that Renault has a better chassis than McLaren. This is a thread about Renault making asser...
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:56 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Title decided)
- Replies: 1209
- Views: 368255
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Hungary Updated)
Dammit.
Belgium
1. Hamilton
2. Leclerc
3. Verstappen
4. Vettel
5. Bottas
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Perez
10. Norris
Belgium
1. Hamilton
2. Leclerc
3. Verstappen
4. Vettel
5. Bottas
6. Albon
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Perez
10. Norris
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
Belgium
1. Hamilton
2. Leclerc
3. Verstappen
1. Hamilton
2. Leclerc
3. Verstappen
- Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:25 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2020 (Kubica joins Alfa Romeo)!
- Replies: 1025
- Views: 245101
Re: Silly Season 2020!
These were merely driving errors, nothing to do with the tyres, Alonso just had 1 podium more in the second half of the season to define he was better? Why can't not being comfortable with the tyres (and brakes) have an impact on any driving errors? Surely that's precisely what you'd expect to see ...
- Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:18 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2020 (Kubica joins Alfa Romeo)!
- Replies: 1025
- Views: 245101
Re: Silly Season 2020!
This doesn't relate to the fact that Alonso was stronger in the first half of the season than the second half of the season and after 2007 he seemingly had no more problems with the Bridgestone tyres. I would agree that Alonso lost the advantages he would have had if still on the Michelin tyres. He...
- Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:28 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2020 (Kubica joins Alfa Romeo)!
- Replies: 1025
- Views: 245101
Re: Silly Season 2020!
It's kind of funny how often drivers have problems with cars when they have a stronger teammate, just saying. For the record Hamilton was stronger against Alonso in the second half of the season. Alonso didn't have a problem with the car. It was the change from Michelin to Bridgestone. I recall Pet...
- Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:15 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2020 (Kubica joins Alfa Romeo)!
- Replies: 1025
- Views: 245101
Re: Silly Season 2020!
Love the alonso in for gasly vibe. It's always posters that think hamilton should take on the best drivers as a teammate. Well, now that people are touting verstap as king, i think he should take on alonso. Make it happen. Lewis agrees with you... https://www.planetf1.com/news/hamilton-suggests-alo...
- Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:21 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Should Bottas contract be extended?
- Replies: 494
- Views: 100884
Re: Should Bottas contract be extended?
Also Ocon and Max have a thing and don't get on. That could play into Mercs and Lewis's hands if Merc vs RB becomes a regular thing next year and Merc give Ocon a car he can annoy Max with, maybe even get into a few scrapes with. Bottas just doesn't seem to have that ego/killer instinct/douchebag ca...
- Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:36 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Should Bottas contract be extended?
- Replies: 494
- Views: 100884
Re: Should Bottas contract be extended?
Sure, it could help Russell but more of a risk to Merc. If he is a Gasly he could cost them the WCC. Much better for Mercedes to see him against a known quantity first so they can verify how good he actually is. The thing with Ocon is we have seen he is at least as good as Perez. which probably mea...
- Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: It's not the car, it's Lewis!
- Replies: 232
- Views: 45638
Re: It's not the car, it's Lewis!
Well obviously two average drivers would struggle, it's not 2014-2016. But big teams don't tend to sign average drivers to lead the team so it would depend on who you're putting in there if Lewis isn't there I guess. All we do know is Lewis did it and he did so relatively comfortably and I think the...
- Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:40 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Title decided)
- Replies: 1209
- Views: 368255
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Hockenheim Updat
Hungary
1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Verstappen
4. Vettel
5. Leclerc
6. Gasly
7. Sainz
8. Norris
9. Ricciardo
10. Perez
1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Verstappen
4. Vettel
5. Leclerc
6. Gasly
7. Sainz
8. Norris
9. Ricciardo
10. Perez
- Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:37 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
Hungary
1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Verstappen
1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Verstappen
- Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:13 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The first decade where Ferrari wins no WDC or WDC!
- Replies: 40
- Views: 11763
Re: The first decade where Ferrari wins no WDC or WDC!
Until I see any other team do something similar to what ferrari did to Massa at cota 2012 I will always regard them as the team orders champs. Yes every team uses orders but ferrari seems to invent new ways to apply them and rarely let you feel that their drivers are on equal footing. To me it is t...
- Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:44 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
- Replies: 650
- Views: 283820
Re: CarlPotter's Top Three Championship 2019
Germany
1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Vettel
1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Vettel
- Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:43 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Title decided)
- Replies: 1209
- Views: 368255
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2019 Edition (Silverstone edit
Germany
1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Vettel
4. Verstappen
5. Leclerc
6. Gasly
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Norris
10. Perez
1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Vettel
4. Verstappen
5. Leclerc
6. Gasly
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Norris
10. Perez
- Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:13 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The first decade where Ferrari wins no WDC or WDC!
- Replies: 40
- Views: 11763
Re: The first decade where Ferrari wins no WDC or WDC!
Until I see any other team do something similar to what ferrari did to Massa at cota 2012 I will always regard them as the team orders champs. Yes every team uses orders but ferrari seems to invent new ways to apply them and rarely let you feel that their drivers are on equal footing. To me it is t...
- Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:26 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who will end their career with the most wins?
- Replies: 973
- Views: 312691
Re: Who will end their career with the most wins?
Number of races might help the youngsters but as mentioned the BC won't. If it works as intended and we get a more competitive F1 then those records will stand for all time because it could be so unlikely that a team stays dominant long enough for one driver in the future to benefit to the extent n...