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- Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:41 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Jenson Button's future
- Replies: 469
- Views: 112949
Re: Jenson Button's future
I'm not sure I would call Vettel and Raikkonen's successes lucky , they had some but they displayed a lot of talent as well in my opinion, even though people differ on their positions in the pecking order of the last several seasons. I agree with your good points about Raikkonen and Alonso (althoug...
- Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:57 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Jenson Button's future
- Replies: 469
- Views: 112949
Re: Jenson Button's future
he just has not shown enough, other than the lucky car season, to warrant all the praise Vettel has not shown enough, other than 4 lucky car seasons, to warrant the praise. Aside from 4 lucky cars, he has a few wins, and a defeat to Ricciardo. Kimi has not shown enough, other than 3 lucky car seaso...
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:35 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What constitutes driver 'greatness'?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 3906
What constitutes driver 'greatness'?
While reading the thread on what Hamilton has to do to be considered as an all-time great, I noticed a few people mentioning that it was difficult to answer the question because it depended entirely on some sort of criteria for greatness. Of course, said criteria will always be different depending o...
- Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:53 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What does Hamilton have to do to become an all time great?
- Replies: 706
- Views: 138752
Re: What does Hamilton have to do to become an all time grea
He is already far greater than the likes of Damon and JV. Let's just go through what we already know about him.. - He is probably one of the top two drivers in a generation filled with star talent. - His record against team-mates is probably the best since Prost. - He ranks sixth all time in wins an...
- Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:57 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: why is no-one criticising Massa
- Replies: 104
- Views: 19903
Re: why is no-one criticising Massa
As for the Williams, it hasn't been the best of the rest at every race: often the RBR has been better. Massa's not good enough to consistently take on equal cars and fight traffic but like I said, he wouldn't have that problem in the Mercedes. Essentially it would be just the two of them out there ...
- Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:27 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Top 3 drivers of the season - 1994 - 2014
- Replies: 74
- Views: 12795
Re: Top 3 drivers of the season - 1994 - 2014
Will go from 2004 since that's the season I started watching seriously... 2004 1. Schumacher 2. Button 3. Raikkonen/Barrichello Top two are obvious. Third is a tough choice because nobody else really had a complete season - Alonso was still learning and making errors, Trulli had a shocking end, Mont...
- Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:51 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: why is no-one criticising Massa
- Replies: 104
- Views: 19903
Re: why is no-one criticising Massa
I'm sorry but I don't buy the idea that Felipe would be anywhere near Lewis. Not at all. In dry quali sessions this year, Massa is almost a quarter of a second slower than Bottas on average. And that Williams is a perfectly well-sorted car, with enough downforce to be 3rd fastest at Catalunya, 2nd ...
- Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: why is no-one criticising Massa
- Replies: 104
- Views: 19903
Re: why is no-one criticising Massa
Not sure I agree with the notion that Massa would do just as well as Rosberg at Mercedes... wouldn't that mean that Alonso or even Bottas would walk the WDC alongside Lewis? That's only if you say that performance under one set of circumstances would be replicated under any other. Last year, Lewis ...
- Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:36 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: GP2/GP3/FR3.5 2014 Thread
- Replies: 250
- Views: 52969
Re: GP2/GP3/FR3.5 2014 Thread
My two cents on GP2... Jolyon Palmer is not the most gifted driver in GP2, but I do think there is an argument that he deserves to be in F1. At the very least, he is better than Leimer and far better than Valsecchi. Those guys arrived in GP2 and stuck around for a few years in the upper-midfield, wi...
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:14 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Top ten drivers going into 2015
- Replies: 94
- Views: 18207
Re: Top ten drivers going into 2015
My top ten going into 2015 would most likely have to be... 1. Alonso 2. Hamilton 3. Ricciardo 4. Rosberg 5. Vettel 6. Bottas 7. Button 8. Hulkenberg 9. Raikkonen 10. Perez Alonso and Hamilton are the obvious top two. Hamilton has IMO been slightly the better of the two this year, but I have to regar...
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:25 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Top ten drivers going into 2015
- Replies: 94
- Views: 18207
Re: Top ten drivers going into 2015
You're correct Grosjean was to blame for an incident last season it was after this he started improving when it looked like his position was in doubt. I confused that with late 2012. Once he was giving the boot up the a*s he improved radically both in speed and awareness. Still p!ssed at his punish...
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:58 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Top ten drivers going into 2015
- Replies: 94
- Views: 18207
Re: Top ten drivers going into 2015
performing above someone's expectations is exactly how you impress them. You can't impress people so much by doing exacty what they thought you were going to do... Yes but exceeding expectations does not always = a better driver. Magnussen definitely isn't a better driver than Button. Vettel may ha...
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:27 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Top 10 F1 Power Rankings from the Bleacher Report
- Replies: 40
- Views: 10865
Re: Top 10 F1 Power Rankings from the Bleacher Report
I usually rate the drivers out of 10 for each race (ala Autosport) and I have this ranking for the last six races... 1. Hamilton 54 2. Ricciardo 52 3. Alonso 50 4. Button 49 5. Vergne 48 6. Bottas 47 = Vettel 47 = Perez 47 9. Rosberg 46 10. Massa/Raikkonen/Magnussen/Kvyat 44 Hamilton has been in exc...
- Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:33 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: How long can a rookie go without a win?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3850
Re: How long can a rookie go without a win?
Depends on the car. Daniel Ricciardo looks like the superstar find of the decade, but if he'd have stayed in a midfield team for a long time, he wouldn't have won races. Simple.
- Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:39 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some margin
- Replies: 764
- Views: 135536
Re: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some ma
I don't understand why you would believe Kimi could be that amount off Alonso, but not Perez or Hulk. Perez is tried and tested against Hamilton's old benchmark, Button, and proved very evenly matched with him on pure pace alone. And as I've said already, Button averaged well within 0.3 of Hamilton...
- Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:15 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some margin
- Replies: 764
- Views: 135536
Re: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some ma
I don't understand why you would believe Kimi could be that amount off Alonso, but not Perez or Hulk. Perez is tried and tested against Hamilton's old benchmark, Button, and proved very evenly matched with him on pure pace alone. And as I've said already, Button averaged well within 0.3 of Hamilton...
- Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some margin
- Replies: 764
- Views: 135536
Re: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some ma
But you can argue that the 2007 Ferrari was to Kimi's liking, as demonstrated by his struggles in 2008 & 2009. Yet he didn't stand out as being that much better than a driver who had been thrashed by Schumacher and went on to be thrashed by Alonso. We can't directly compare qualifying times since r...
- Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:57 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some margin
- Replies: 764
- Views: 135536
Re: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some ma
But you can argue that the 2007 Ferrari was to Kimi's liking, as demonstrated by his struggles in 2008 & 2009. Yet he didn't stand out as being that much better than a driver who had been thrashed by Schumacher and went on to be thrashed by Alonso. We can't directly compare qualifying times since r...
- Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:48 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some margin
- Replies: 764
- Views: 135536
Re: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some ma
You're assuming that the 2007 car was completely to Kimi's liking, but I would say already then he didn't look like the driver we'd seen in the McLaren. I do remember reading at the time that it was suggested both Kimi and Alonso needed time to adjust to the tyres, which were different to the ones ...
- Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:38 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some margin
- Replies: 764
- Views: 135536
Re: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some ma
The Hakkinen point is moot. He had consistently beaten DC before 2001, so 2001 demonstrated either a clear decline in Hakkinen's performance, or a clear improvement from Coulthard. Such an inconsistency can't be found within the Alonso/Kimi/Massa comparisons. Grosjean may well be a bit slower than ...
- Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:39 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some margin
- Replies: 764
- Views: 135536
Re: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some ma
Even if we were to assume that Alonso is the fastest driver in F1, I wouldn't say being 0.3 off the pace is 'superslow'. But in a world where 0.3 seconds counts for an awful lot, you could argue that Kimi is not quick enough. I think the point being made by many in this thread is that the idea that...
- Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:46 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some margin
- Replies: 764
- Views: 135536
Re: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some ma
No question he's doing poor this year. But you're making the assumption that half the grid could do better, and I don't think there's any evidence for that. Despite your obvious dislike, the man has won many races and a WDC, so he can't be that untalented, unless you feel that any driver could win ...
- Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:46 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some margin
- Replies: 764
- Views: 135536
Re: Red Bull insiders: Alonso is faster than Kimi by some ma
No question he's doing poor this year. But you're making the assumption that half the grid could do better, and I don't think there's any evidence for that. Despite your obvious dislike, the man has won many races and a WDC, so he can't be that untalented, unless you feel that any driver could win ...
- Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:45 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2014 Edition! (Russia Updated)
- Replies: 1894
- Views: 472904
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2014 Edition! (Belgium Updated
Singapore
1. Rosberg
2. Hamilton
3. Ricciardo
4. Vettel
5. Alonso
6. Bottas
7. Massa
8. Raikkonen
9. Magnussen
10. Button
1. Rosberg
2. Hamilton
3. Ricciardo
4. Vettel
5. Alonso
6. Bottas
7. Massa
8. Raikkonen
9. Magnussen
10. Button
- Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:26 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Formula E Last Corner Incident: What is a suitable penalty?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 12960
Re: Formula E Last Corner Incident: What is a suitable penal
Am I right in thinking the stewards will still be from the FIA? It's an FIA series, so I do assume so. I don't actually know however. After looking at this again on YouTube Prost looks repeatedly in his right mirror before moving left. If you look in your right mirror and don't see a car I'd think ...
- Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:23 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Formula E Last Corner Incident: What is a suitable penalty?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 12960
Re: Formula E Last Corner Incident: What is a suitable penal
I went back to look at the Canada incident again to be sure and I don't agree that the two incidents are similar. In Canada Perez moved left when coming up on lapped traffic and his left rear hit Mass's right front as if he didn't look for the other car. In China Heidfeld was almost fully alongside...
- Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:48 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The First ePRiX EVER of Beijing - RACE THREAD
- Replies: 285
- Views: 50461
Re: The First ePRiX EVER of Beijing - RACE THREAD
Complete lunatic driving from Prost. He deserves a ban for that, but there's no way the series will allow itself to go to such extremes after the first ever race. I enjoyed the race. The quality of racecraft, sans the last corner incident, was very good, comparable to F1. The sound isn't so bad. The...
- Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:54 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2015 Uberthread [MERGED]
- Replies: 2131
- Views: 390484
Re: Silly Season 2015 Uberthread [MERGED]
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2014/9/16336.html Perez close to signing for Force India for 2015. He's really come of age this season, but then he's had four years now. Perez has been very impressive this season. With a little more luck i think he could outscore Hulk next season. Perez defi...
- Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who were the best in McLaren, Hamilton or Button?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 9844
Re: Who were the best in McLaren, Hamilton or Button?
We can discuss this forever but his time together with Button and now with Rosberg, well he wasn't able to walk over either. No points do not tell the whole story and there were reliability issues but there were also mistakes from Lewis and personal issues that got in the way of consistent good res...
- Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The Official Jenson Button thread
- Replies: 363
- Views: 172376
Re: The Official Jenson Button threadpp
He's more capable than people give him credit for. He's only had a decent enough car to showcase it for four or five seasons. You can't even argue that it's his fault the cars can't get a decent set up, because his teammates 9 times out of 10 struggle also. You can kind of understand that argument ...
- Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:13 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is it time for Button to hang up his gloves?
- Replies: 112
- Views: 22408
Re: Is it time for Button to hang up his gloves?
I was disappointed by Button's performance at the weekend. He was too conservative when racing against Perez and, when he finally did get ahead, he went too deep into the second chicane. He had the pace to beat Magnussen on the road but he didn't get the result his pace was worthy of. No reason for ...
- Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:37 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso: "Vettel not the best, Hamilton is the best driver"
- Replies: 254
- Views: 51127
Re: Alonso: "Vettel not the best, Hamilton is the best drive
It'd seem most of the 'butthurt' does not come from Alonso, but from this thread. Alonso gets asked a question, he answers it. Blame the journos who can't come up with better questions. You can debate the merits of what he said all you like. Is it mind games? Probably. But it's unreasonable to dismi...
- Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:56 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2014 Edition! (Russia Updated)
- Replies: 1894
- Views: 472904
Re: PF1 Pick 10 Competition - 2014 Edition! (Belgium Updated
Monza...
1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Bottas
4. Massa
5. Button
6. Magnussen
7. Ricciardo
8. Alonso
9. Hulkenberg
10. Vettel
1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Bottas
4. Massa
5. Button
6. Magnussen
7. Ricciardo
8. Alonso
9. Hulkenberg
10. Vettel
- Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:29 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The Rookies
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2594
Re: The Rookies
Yes they are both doing quite well, i guess that is what tends to happen when champions get promoted rather than mere front runners like Gutierrez and Ericsson? It's not just about winning championships. I highly doubt the likes of Valsecchi or Leimer would've done all that well in F1. If you're a ...
- Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:25 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2015 Uberthread [MERGED]
- Replies: 2131
- Views: 390484
Re: Jenson Buttons future uncertain as McLaren chase Alonso.
I don't see that four championships and two years previous of very impressive performances can be wiped out by half a seasons worth of struggles. Setting this season aside, he has shown very strong qualifying speed, consistency, lack of driver errors and at least competent race craft. Championships...
- Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:46 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2015 Uberthread [MERGED]
- Replies: 2131
- Views: 390484
Re: Jenson Buttons future uncertain as McLaren chase Alonso.
Alonso is almost as experienced as Button but I think fair to say superior is all areas and Vettel is, I think most would agree at worst the third best driver on the grid. Really? I think you could argue he is no better than fifth best. Judging on this season or over an entire career? Entire career...
- Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2015 Uberthread [MERGED]
- Replies: 2131
- Views: 390484
Re: Jenson Buttons future uncertain as McLaren chase Alonso.
Really? I think you could argue he is no better than fifth best.TakumaSatoforthewin wrote:Alonso is almost as experienced as Button but I think fair to say superior is all areas and Vettel is, I think most would agree at worst the third best driver on the grid.
- Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:27 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel trying too hard?
- Replies: 42
- Views: 10637
Re: Vettel trying too hard?
Are you a hater if you thought Vettel wasn't actually as good as some other people thought? There is an element of the new formula car-type not being a type that suits how he prefers to drive, but that is F1, its the same for everyone and they all have to adapt and drive to the limits of the car/th...
- Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:17 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2015 Uberthread [MERGED]
- Replies: 2131
- Views: 390484
Re: Jenson Buttons future uncertain as McLaren chase Alonso.
IDK Teddy, Alonso, Hamilton, possibly Vettel… I think could and would have done a better job than Button. I'm really starting to question Vettel in all honesty. I don't think he belongs in the Alonso/Hamilton class and probably not even in the Rosberg/Ricciardo class. I'm wondering if he's just ver...
- Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:11 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2015 Uberthread [MERGED]
- Replies: 2131
- Views: 390484
Re: Jenson Buttons future uncertain as McLaren chase Alonso.
As a Button fan I am far more concerned at the prospect of Bottas replacing him than Alonso, though I really think Vandoorne is a more likely option. For a driver like Bottas at a customer team, the opportunity to go to a works team with more recent success than Williams is surely appealing. A risk,...