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A penalty would have been justified for Charles but not producing a penalty is also understandable. Ultimately; any penalty that is seen as benefiting Hamilton or Mercedes will be unpopular and people will cry about the sport being ruined. That is what stayed the hand of the stewards regarding Char...

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Albon should have beat the Renault's . Those 5secs penalty did not help. Max was only 15secs behind him but still I think he is doing much better job than Gasly so far Based on what? For me, Renault had the better horse for the course. Let's see how Alex does at Singapore. That is a circuit where R...

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MistaVega23 wrote:
F1 Racer wrote:Bring back Alonso.
This. Absolutely this.

Alonso is done in F1 guys. It's time to move on.

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Would Red Bull actually want him back though. Actually he has more chance at Mercedes , he is German after all and their downforce is pretty solid ;). Mercedes or a junior team who throw the most money at him. I think his chances at Mercedes are slim to none. A - He won't want to play #2 to Hamilto...

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A penalty would have been justified for Charles but not producing a penalty is also understandable. Ultimately; any penalty that is seen as benefiting Hamilton or Mercedes will be unpopular and people will cry about the sport being ruined. That is what stayed the hand of the stewards regarding Char...

sandman1347

A penalty would have been justified for Charles but not producing a penalty is also understandable. Ultimately; any penalty that is seen as benefiting Hamilton or Mercedes will be unpopular and people will cry about the sport being ruined. That is what stayed the hand of the stewards regarding Charl...

sandman1347

Bring back Alonso. Indeed, I wouldn't have given Vettel another big 3-year contract in the first place at least not with options, he's done nothing at Ferrari to deserve such a reward. It was obvious to me Leclerc would put some manners on him and said so at the time. Ferrari have screwed up their ...

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JN23 wrote:
Sandman, I think you're thinking about Austria 2016. F1 Racer its talking about Germany the same year when Rosberg got a penalty for an incident after the hairpin with a Red Bull driver.

I see, my mistake. Apologies.

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Not just the braking area though, all parts of corners are governed by the same rules and the stewards let Sainz off the hook for a bigger squeeze off the track. I don't believe that's true, no penalty for Verstappen in Austria. But a penalty for Rosberg in Germany 2016 and K-Mag in Hungary 2017 at...

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I think Vettel will see out his contract but then he will be done at Ferrari. I have two reasons for thinking this: 1. Vettel has the second highest salary on the grid and you don't pay that kind of money to someone to be a #2 driver. Ferrari will be unable to justify keeping Vettel at the same pay ...

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This doesn't make a difference though as the rules state nothing about it needing to be in the braking area. ;) You could also say that one was into a chicane and the other one wasn't. See how easy that is to make up irrelevant differences. ;) If it's not in the rules why did the stewards issue Lec...

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Valteri did a solid job today as well and his strategy should have paid off but he was just not able to put the pressure on Charles when he got into the mix. Very underwhelming effort from him in those closing laps IMO. He had tires that were much fresher than either Leclerc or Hamilton and he was ...

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Albon should have beat the Renault's . Those 5secs penalty did not help. Max was only 15secs behind him but still I think he is doing much better job than Gasly so far Based on what? For me, Renault had the better horse for the course. Let's see how Alex does at Singapore. That is a circuit where R...

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At the end of the day, hindsight suggests that Mercedes should never have tried for the undercut. They didn't need to. Ferrari had the faster car but worse tire life. So for Mercedes, stopping first played right into Ferrari's hands. Even had Hamilton pulled an undercut, Leclerc would have the strai...

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F1 Racer wrote:Does Albon need to finish ahead of Verstappen today, (barring any bad luck such as mechanical reliability or a crash with the other driver at fault), for it to be deemed a good result?

Barring bad luck or safety car bunching, yes.

sandman1347

The bold was was simply posted because you'd earlier stated that you didn't want to read through a rule book at the weekend to find some , or words that that effect anyway. Therefore, it stood to reason that you didn't know of any. Not saying that was true, but it certainly read like that. Anyway, ...

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The bold was was simply posted because you'd earlier stated that you didn't want to read through a rule book at the weekend to find some , or words that that effect anyway. Therefore, it stood to reason that you didn't know of any. Not saying that was true, but it certainly read like that. Anyway, ...

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The bold was was simply posted because you'd earlier stated that you didn't want to read through a rule book at the weekend to find some , or words that that effect anyway. Therefore, it stood to reason that you didn't know of any. Not saying that was true, but it certainly read like that. Anyway, ...

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Sigh, lot's of assumptions there Asphalt. I didn't say I can't name one without looking at the rule book. You asked "what are the rules you'd remove?" For me to give a complete answer, I would need the rule book and I would need to spend a lot of time going through it to find the rules that I would...

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Sigh, lot's of assumptions there Asphalt. I didn't say I can't name one without looking at the rule book. You asked "what are the rules you'd remove?" For me to give a complete answer, I would need the rule book and I would need to spend a lot of time going through it to find the rules that I would ...

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There's no need to do anything. This is the first time that this has happened and let's hope the teams are smart enough to make it the last. :thumbup: It may be very very rare, but if you think how frustrated we were watching on TV, imagine those that paid big money to watch it live. A simple rule ...

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There's no need to do anything. This is the first time that this has happened and let's hope the teams are smart enough to make it the last. :thumbup: It may be very very rare, but if you think how frustrated we were watching on TV, imagine those that paid big money to watch it live. A simple rule ...

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What’s frustrating is on a day where the FIA needed to be consistent with rule enforcement they weren’t at all. Shame on us really, for thinking that their whole message about cracking down on track limits could possibly apply to Ferrari at Monza... Tbf they've been awful everywhere. Gave Bottas a ...

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Mayhem wrote:What’s frustrating is on a day where the FIA needed to be consistent with rule enforcement they weren’t at all.

Shame on us really, for thinking that their whole message about cracking down on track limits could possibly apply to Ferrari at Monza...

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No penalty for anyone Vettel cleared on running wide https://www.racefans.net/2019/09/07/stewards-confirm-no-penalty-for-vettel-for-running-wide-at-turn-11/ Hulk, sainz & stroll given reprimands only https://www.racefans.net/2019/09/07/hulkenberg-stroll-and-sainz-given-reprimands-for-qualifying-inc...

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Toni Gruner tweeted this about Bottas: "We asked the FIA about that. According to them it's not the red flags but the time the teams are informed about the red flags that counts. And that information came shortly after Bottas crossed the line. https://twitter.com/filippghost/status/1170376693099507...

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And why haven't they deleted Vettel's time? He clearly had all 4 wheels off at the parabolica. They made a point of informing everyone that if you did that; not only would your lap be invalidated but the next lap would be invalidated too. Why have they let his time stand? Here Mate...Vettel has bee...

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And why haven't they deleted Vettel's time? He clearly had all 4 wheels off at the parabolica. They made a point of informing everyone that if you did that; not only would your lap be invalidated but the next lap would be invalidated too. Why have they let his time stand? Here Mate...Vettel has bee...

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There's no need to do anything. This is the first time that this has happened and let's hope the teams are smart enough to make it the last.

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And why haven't they deleted Vettel's time? He clearly had all 4 wheels off at the parabolica. They made a point of informing everyone that if you did that; not only would your lap be invalidated but the next lap would be invalidated too. Why have they let his time stand?

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What on earth was that!? I honestly blame Hulkenberg. He was the first man out and then he just chose to take the runoff at turn 1. That's what started this whole thing. After that, Stroll was in the lead and he didn't want to go because he probably thought that what Hulk did was BS and that it wasn...

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All true points, BUT… Kvyat's take on the situation are also fact. IDK if this means Shots Fired or not, but I find his assessment of the race to be accurate. https://www.planetf1.com/news/kvyat-on-albon-debut-why-was-it-a-good-start/ Yeah, I gotta agree with him. Albon's pace in the race wasn't im...

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At this stage, those issues are well established. We'll see what happens come October but if the stakeholders are not willing to commit to solutions then we'll be SOL.

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Does F1 really need fixing? Can you remember a 5 race stretch as exciting as these last 5?

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It's not just that the season closes in Abu Dhabi, it's that it opens in Australia. We both begin and end the season at boring tracks. It's just not smart and I can't fathom why the business is run like that.

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Kingvoid - I'm amazed by the sheer amount of time you have spent over the years searching the internet for things to nitpick at regarding Lewis Hamilton. Must be exhausting.

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MistaVega23 wrote:
F1 Racer wrote:Just like on the motorway, even on the race track drivers should only move into lanes that are clear when they are racing one another.
And I'm done.

You lasted longer than me...

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You're doing the same thing, assuming Kimi is doing an amazing job because he's better than his rookie teammate. Sainz is supposedly doing even better than Kimi, third best driver, yet last year the Hulk beat him in the same car. I agree it is impossible to tell. But same goes for Hamilton as well....

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Yes, the true racing line would be something like lane 5 sweeping into lane 1, (through small pieces of lane 4, 3 and 2), and then back out to lane 6 on the corner exit, (again through small pieces of lane 2, 3, 4 and 5), but therefore this means that lane 1 is indeed part of the true racing line f...

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As mentioned previously in this thread, Max came from a long way back and was out of Kimi's vision (only Perez was visible in his mirrors at that point). Max chose to make up for his poor start by doing a divebomb into La Source which, as we all know, nine times out of ten, isn't going to work. It'...

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