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Fiki

Indeed, caught napping by someone slowing massively 200m before the normal braking zone . Maybe we will see someone catch a closely following driver napping slowing down to 4th gear on the entry to copse at Silverstone I take it you didn't bother to read the stewards' report on the matter? Why do y...

Fiki

It may be something else in the report Fiki is referring to. But cryptic all the same! Not cryptic at all Siao, I even underlined what it was I took issue with. Nothing in the stewards report precludes Alonso's slowing to be 200m before the braking zone. Have you read it? I'm happy to be able to sa...

Fiki

I take it you didn't bother to read the stewards' report on the matter? Why do you always hit me with some laborious admin work just to reveal that it was actually 100m before the braking zone not 200m as if it makes any difference to the point about braking unpredictably early or excessively for a...

Fiki

I read that this morning, and was a bit surprised myself. Caught napping at breakfast, so to speak. I believe the Mercedes steering wheels have switches at the back, and he may have been operating those. But I don't see him operating a switch on the front of the steering wheel in the relevant on-bo...

Fiki

I thought this comment from Russell was very telling. Caught napping in other words. "Obviously a bit of a strange situation that happened last week. Totally caught by surprise. I was actually looking at the steering wheel, making a switch change in the straight, which, you know, we all do across t...

Fiki

I gave my answer which you quickly dismissed, since then other more prominent figures have come up with the same answer. I see. No I don't, but let's just leave it there. The real problem isn't whether Alonso faked a throttle problem or not, it is whether a dangerous situation existed, or a potenti...

Fiki

You said how was Alonso able to fake it, answers on a postcard, kind of looks like you didn't think it was possible. I asked a question, which you might have understood from the use of the ? at the end. I gave my answer which you quickly dismissed, since then other more prominent figures have come ...

Fiki

Fair enough but you originally thought it wasn't possible. When I explained how he could have done it you then needed someone with an accredited opinion to say likewise. I believe that Jolyon Palmer has now come out and said it also the Missed Apex Podcast although I guess they wouldn't be experts,...

Fiki

The fact that it's not on the report somehow proves you're right, surely you have to prove that it really happened, meanwhile it seems somewhat widespread that he was blipping his throttle trying to create a throttle problem as an attempted cover story, it seems that got quickly ditched. The fact t...

Fiki

The fact that it is not in the report means that it is not in the report, nothing more. We don't know whether Alonso did simulate a throttle problem, only that the stewards didn't look into it. Which means that we don't know what precisely went on. I am not a fan of Alonso, so I can live with whate...

Fiki

Why you seem to feel a need to exaggerate what you believe I wrote, or twist what I actually wrote is something I don't know or understand. But I can tell you I don't like it. This is what I actually wrote on page 5: The fact that it's not on the report somehow proves you're right, surely you have ...

Fiki

Others have said it as well, interesting after I said it when you asked how it was possible to fake a throttle problem, then you still said it wasn't possible. Not even after his criticism of the penalty given against him, no mention of his throttle problem from Alonso. Alonso was messing about, Ru...

Fiki

You say that today Senna would have been penalised, I give an example of a recent incident and then you say I'm taking the the thread OT, conversation over then. The prime difference between the two cases is that Hamilton was unable to use the room on his inside. Rosberg did. Rosberg never even mad...

Fiki

There was no contact, Rosberg braked which then spun his car, Verstappen closed the door firmly on Hamilton in Silverstone 2021, Hamilton got penalised for the contact, it's not to dissimilar. With the exception of course that Hamilton could never make the corner based on his trajectory. Let’s not ...

Fiki

It's the Alonso argument as much as anything, even Alonso knew he had over stepped the mark when he started blipping his throttle trying to make out he had a throttle problem, that problem seems to have quietly disappeared. It didn't disappear quietly, it's just that we have no indication any techn...

Fiki

I would say if there had been contact then more probably Rosberg gets penalised. It is extremely hard to see from the overhead whether there was any contact or not. Senna closed the door pretty firmly on Rosberg, that is for sure. If Rosberg was unsettled by that, indeed it would be on him. But it ...

Fiki

Do we know exactly what he actually did, driver in front does something erratically, it's the fault of the driver behind in not being able to take avoiding action. Indeed, I don't remember anyone defending Stroll in Texas 2022, I guess to some here it was Alonso's poor concentration and reaction sp...

Fiki

I don't know how people can know what Russell could have done differently, plain and simply if you drive erratically that then causes a collision or crash then you should be penalised. He could have, and i guess it sounds ridiculous and unheard of in racing, braked. Do we know exactly what he actua...

Fiki

The question is with each passing year that Merc and Hamilton continue their dominance does it hurt Max Verstappen’s long term legacy in the sport? It seems like he doesn’t maximize his opportunities on many occasions - none clearer than today. It’s always interesting to read these old threads back...

Fiki

You would leave the car there to be potentially hit by another car. Of course, that's how it used to be done. I fail to see why a stranded car should be retrieved, and I fail even harder at trying to understand why a stranded car should be an excuse to bunch up the field behind a spectacle car and ...

Fiki

I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...

Fiki

Street tracks are totally different and actually in Australia we saw why that is. Parts strewn all over the track which is very, I mean really very unlikely to happen with gravel traps. A car stuck in a gravel trap brings out a SC. It does, but do we see many cars beached these days? Of course ther...

Fiki

I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...

Fiki

I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...

Fiki

I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...

Fiki

Yeah, much like Magnussen in Jeddah. It was as controversial back then as it was today. Brake-testing? Unpredictable moving under braking? Edit: What Magnussen and Rosberg did were unfair or not (debatable), but clearly different to the Vettel-Verstappen-(to a lesser degree) Alonso type of antics, ...

Fiki

:thumbup: Very nice find. Yes, as I wrote, with Senna the times of respect driving started to change. Still, no brake-testing or unpredictable moving under braking involved here as far as I can see. Squeezing became more common, yes, as I wrote. And you are also right regarding social media. I woul...

Fiki

Not exactly F1 news but there is a link. Liberty set to take over ownership of Moto GP. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/motor-racing-f1-owner-liberty-media-set-to-take-over-motogp-sky-reports/ar-BB1kQfRl?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=549f0a81d58c4b939b3bdb6c1b8d4e08&ei=45 How long until we get...

Fiki

Racing could be just as unfair in the 80s just perhaps in different ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulV75GP2CiU If this sequence of events involving Senna and Rosberg happened today nobody would ever stop talking about it. There was just no social media back then to magnify controversies. :th...

Fiki

Not exactly F1 news but there is a link. Liberty set to take over ownership of Moto GP. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/motor-racing-f1-owner-liberty-media-set-to-take-over-motogp-sky-reports/ar-BB1kQfRl?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=549f0a81d58c4b939b3bdb6c1b8d4e08&ei=45 How long until we get...

Fiki

Not exactly F1 news but there is a link. Liberty set to take over ownership of Moto GP. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/motor-racing-f1-owner-liberty-media-set-to-take-over-motogp-sky-reports/ar-BB1kQfRl?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=549f0a81d58c4b939b3bdb6c1b8d4e08&ei=45 How long until we get...

Fiki

The fact that he tried to get rid of Horner. I'm not so sure that's what was really being tried. I would get nervous if Jos started to talk negatively about the one person in all of this turmoil who is truly indispensible: Adrian Newey. You deny that Jos tried to get rid of Horner. https://metro.co...

Fiki

Do you think that drivers should drive in a predictable manner? This is the essential question that is being asked. I think that brake testing and moving in braking zones should not be allowed. Fair enough, it is a valid stance in this discussion. I think unsettling another driver by lifting premat...

Fiki

Maybe someone should tell Jos that. What makes you think Jos Verstappen doesn't know that? The fact that he tried to get rid of Horner. I'm not so sure that's what was really being tried. I would get nervous if Jos started to talk negatively about the one person in all of this turmoil who is truly ...

Fiki

I think Hill has a point though and as others have pointed out, the fact that Russell crashed played a major role in the Stewards handing out a penalty. Are drivers no longer permitted to try to wrong-foot others? It's so obvious that outcome determines punishment, a driver avoids a brake test then...

Fiki

We dodn't know what's happening with Verstappen, Red Bull have to be worried about what Jos wants, who runs the team, the Verstappens? Horner seems to think it's him, when drivers look to think they run the team, that the team can't be successful without them then the team might look to weaken thei...

Fiki

Marko doesn't have to sign for Mercedes for Verstappen to go there. clearly. at the moment there are all kinds of "reports" that Verstappen to Merc is a done deal. no way that has happened right now, for next year. how ugly do you think it gets if Jos tells RB his son wants out? I'm guessing it get...

Fiki

Came here to see just how strongly Fiki would be defending the indefensible Alonso, wasn't disappointed. I missed your reaction (answering another post I think), but glad I didn't disappoint! :D But seriously, I'm still not really convinced by the penalty, in view of the stewards' explanation. Or p...

Fiki

t2jd1967 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:12 pm

Fiki wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:49 am

t2jd1967 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:34 am
What may tweak my perspective is that Renault was not considered a top team before 2005 (except for back in 1994 and 1995 of course),
Do you mean Renault as engine supplier in 1994 and '95?
No, I meant the former Benetton team that eventually became Renault.

I see. Thanks.

Fiki

t2jd1967 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:34 am
What may tweak my perspective is that Renault was not considered a top team before 2005 (except for back in 1994 and 1995 of course),

Do you mean Renault as engine supplier in 1994 and '95?

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