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What I noticed last season is that odd errors started to creep in in Hamilton’s driving. This is exactly what happened with Schumacher in 2012. With Alonso I haven’t seen those signs yet. Maybe you have selective vision, Alonso rear ended his teammate in 2022, went off the road in Qatar last year, ...

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With Schumacher there were clear signs of his decline and the same may be true of Hamilton already. I take into account that Russell’s very well received performances at Williams were completely replicated by Albon. So perhaps the plaudits came a bit early in that regard. I think it's a bit of a st...

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I was listening to The Race podcast and the impression I got is that they think Antonelli has a genuine shot at the seat of his F2 season goes well. Wolff said they might go bold which might be Alonso or Antonelli depending on what end of the scale you might consider bold. Bold might mean Vettel. (...

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Yes he did but that's inconsequent to what I said about Vettel beating Kimi easily thus Kimi is not a great driver to have on your resume. I think up until 2014 everyone was still regarding Räikkönen as a very good driver. In hindsight that has proven not to be case over his entire career. At what ...

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Sooo… I had a dream last night about this and Toto held a press conference to address Lewis’ replacement and he said don’t worry, Lewis will undoubtedly leave a massive hole to fill, but he has someone in mind, a driver he’s known for many years, a world champion, but he doesn’t want to make the sit...

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Why would they go for Sainz? He isn't a top level driver it would seem Considering he's the only teammate who's matched Verstapen and how well he's done at Ferrari despite being a designated clear #2, I don't understand how anyone could ever think Sainz isn't top tier. He's shown he's ALWAYS thinki...

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Hoping this isn't just an FIA stunt to get the masses off their backs regarding the BS Andretti debacle. That said… I think any top team should be trying to buy out Norris' contract to retain huis services. I really think he has the stuff to be fighting up front wroth the likes of Verstappen, Alonso...

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Not sure what good (if any) this will do but I found this petition online you can all fill out and spread the word!

https://chng.it/2PyqhyMDpX

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Ridiculous decision, and my contempt for FOM (and by extension, the current F1 teams) has increased significantly as a result. It's crystal clear that the reasons are made up, and that the actual reason is reluctance from the current teams to have their share of the pie reduced and the (highly infl...

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GRAVEL/SAND TRAPS — Bring them back so drivers quit exceeding track limits and quit purposely forcing one another off track because they know run-off areas are paved and they lose very little time if any. PENALTIES — Quit penalizing drivers for issues outside of their control. If a driver gets colle...

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According to Prost, the explanation for the 2 second time difference between He and Senna in qualy while at McLaren together, was explained by Prost in 'the late 90's… Preferential Treatment for Senna by Honda, something many of us suspected. (I believe him 100%) Prost spoke about having met with th...

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Then why mention Hill finishing 3rd with Senna 2nd as some kind of proof that "It wasn't just the car". Unless you mean very literally that Prost drove better than a rookie Damon Hill? If so then yeah, obviously. I'd put the bar a little higher for someone I was lauding as better than Senna. The fa...

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Considering that Mikey is heavily weighting achievement and legacy (equally or higher than pure ability) on his list, I think it's hard to make a case for Prost any lower than he is. He's the fourth or fifth most successful driver ever depending on how you look at it, and will be remembered forever...

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It seems a mutiny of sorts ensued which is what prompted Gene to relieve Gunther of his duties.

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To you maybe; I would have Prost even lower :) There's a few Prost fans on here some thing Prost is better for some reason. Considering that Mikey is heavily weighting achievement and legacy (equally or higher than pure ability) on his list, I think it's hard to make a case for Prost any lower than...

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I'm going to say I think this may be leading to Gene Selling to Andretti which accomplishes 2 things… 1. Andretti no longer has to pay the RIDICULOUS entry fee 2. The Greedy Whiny Committee doesn't have to split the pot with an 11th team As for what Steiner said, I believe he stated the team was HIS...

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2 - Ayrton Senna 6 - Alain Prost Sorry but I stopped reading there because your ranking begins without making sense. Makes no sense at all. To you maybe; I would have Prost even lower :) There's a few Prost fans on here some thing Prost is better for some reason. Considering that Mikey is heavily w...

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If Kubica was only a little bit better than Heidfeld, is it really fair to say that he was a better driver than the likes of Webber, or did he simply look better circumstantially? I find him very hard to judge. A Heidfeld level driver who had only 1 career win technically shouldn’t be rated that hi...

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I know he predates "F1" But Nuvolari is easily top 5 race car drivers of all time regardless of category, and I have him equally #1 with Mario Andretti (Obviously not in F1, but over all the categories he competed in, Mario is up there). My list is as follows (top 20 only)… 1. Schumacher (in a leagu...

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So what it comes down to is that Red Bull might have overspent on car development, but there is no evidence at all that the team did. Yes, I can see why that makes a strong case for the calls the Red Bull should have been punished more harshly. The reasonable argument in favor of a harsh penalty fo...

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We actually have proof that they definitely did make a mistake. They completely missed a £1.5 million tax rebate. So the mistakes certainly weren't always to their advantage. ... a notional tax rebate, whatever that may be ... Exactly. So we know for an absolute fact that Red Bull DID make a mistak...

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I have no problem in saying the RB19/Verstappen combo is probably the most complete team and driver effort in F1 history. Been so little weakness shown. It's been so dominant, I don't really know where to rank it in the GOAT seasons other than saying it is up there. Other cars have had bigger pace ...

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To talk up Verstappens would be my guess. The reason why I scoff at the notion that the RB19 has a bigger advantage than Mercedes cars of the past did is not because I feel some urge to talk up Verstappen, but because it’s not true. It really is that simple, none of the numbers support this opinion...

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:lol: Maybe Senna in 88 and 89. :lol: Good answer! I meant to write: do you think any of the mentioned drivers drove on Perez' level? Perez drove “poorly” this year because: 1. Verstappen broke him, just like he broke Gasly, another supposedly terrible driver who walked straight into Alpine and bea...

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While I am not going to move it, I would encourage posters to drop discussion of Max Verstappen, the 2021 season, and cheating in F1, from this thread. Neither Verstappen or Hamilton is going to be found at the bottom of any list of F1 WDCs. Thread locked while the split occurs, after which it will...

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This is great news. Will be interesting to hear the new excuses as to why Andretti and Cadillac coming into F1 would be awful. It would start to feel awfully targeted, since the most vocal opponents of Andretti already said they'd be happy if Cadillac entered. Further opposition is going to seem mo...

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GM/Cadillac no longer just an engine badge. They've committed to building their own engine. Given that engine rebadging has been a thing for decades in F1 now, I don't see why anyone, much less Horner and Co. would take issue, especially given "Their" engine is literally a 100% rebadged Honda. Befo...

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How often have we seen Leclerc running in front of Sainz only for Sainz to get on the horn to tell the team he’s on a different strategy and Leclerc, lacking Sainz in race pace has to move over and watch as Sainz does what he couldn’t. Leclerc is a sensational driver but it seems he pushes that weee...

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So many votes for Stroll for what exactly? He didn't suck today like he usually does but was still a fair ways behind his teammate in the same car - how does that make him the (a?) DotD?? He was only six seconds behind. I still don’t think it’s worthy of a vote but he was close. Performance versus ...

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Frentzen was every bit as good as Schumacher in their jr careers and Frentzen at times actually looked like the better of the two and were it not for Michael forcing Frentzen off the track, Frentzen would have earned an F1 test but it never materialized for him (likely due to the result from that c...

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Frentzen was every bit as good as Schumacher in their jr careers and Frentzen at times actually looked like the better of the two and were it not for Michael forcing Frentzen off the track, Frentzen would have earned an F1 test but it never materialized for him (likely due to the result from that cl...

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... Skill and Ability he was light years better than the likes of Schecter, Hunt, Hulme, Rindt, Jones, Hill & Hill, and was very Mansell-esque in terms raw ability, and quite possibly better. For me the weakest WDC can be any one of the guys I listed above, though Hunt was likely better than his re...

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For everyone saying Jacques Villeneuve, he really was the real deal. If you saw him in ChampCar you saw a literal MACHINE at work and he had big brass ones and he was SUPERB with his decision making, and his reactions & adjustments were among the very best ever seen in a driver. That his early and i...

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I said from the start I can't see them developing the car well. They have a history of copying cars and not fully understanding how they work and how to develop them, they even said themselves that they were surprised by its performance and didn't know why it was so quick. This car is different tho...

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Personally I'd put McLaren ahead of Mercedes in the US but I wouldn't argue with anyone who thought the reverse. I 100% agree with you on this and it was the driver that made the difference. Lewis is exceptional at COTA and Norris was exceptional himself and had McLaren put him on Mediums instead o...

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Mega assumption on your part… I only ever "chose" Pirelli ONCE and that was for my Japan Spec CBR900RR because Dunlop and Bridgestone Battle Axe tires were out of stock literally everywhere, and those worked just as terribly as the ones I'd had on vehicles I'd purchased before and after. FYI, since ...

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I don't understand why people (looking at you t2jd1967 and Exediron) are bringing up what the FIA has requested/mandated; that has nothing to do with tyre construction, as I and others have repeatedly said. The tyre failures have NOTHING to do with the forced degradation of the compound. There are ...

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The point is that when you limit tyre testing, how can a tyre manufacturer ensure that the tyres can take all the beating that Formula One cars expose these tyres to? I think you are ignoring the fact that the FIA, FOM and the teams don't just want any old tyre, they want a special degrading type o...

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The point is that when you limit tyre testing, how can a tyre manufacturer ensure that the tyres can take all the beating that Formula One cars expose these tyres to? I think you are ignoring the fact that the FIA, FOM and the teams don't just want any old tyre, they want a special degrading type o...

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