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Aaaaaaaaaand... just as Palmer is looking good Spoke too soon! He's back on circuit and looking good to get to Q3 (oh, damn...) Poor old Palmer! I started the year saying give him a chance he will come good, and slipped into 'time for him to go', Now on the opportunity to start his redemption, the ...

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Mercedes had an advantage in S1 and probably a slight one in S3. Ferrari may be a bit better in S2, but Hamilton really nailed it on that final lap. Vettel's S3 time seems to be slipstream assisted. I think the race could be quite competitive actually. Depends how much straight line speed advantage ...

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Warheart01 wrote:
IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Raikkonen in beastmode.
But will Ferrari let that continue if Räikkönen can keep it up?

Yes, if he can pull a gap while leading.

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I think Ferrari is going to be strong at Abu Dhabi. A lot of slow >=90 degree corners and high track temperatures. Mercedes will make up some time on the long straight, but it might not be enough.

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I think Ferrari is going y

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Nicholas Latifi in the Renault did 54 laps with a fastest lap of 1:20.302. I am not sure how things are regarding Kubica getting a Superlicence but if he needs to do 300km that works out at 70 laps so basically a race distance. Hopefully the car won't let him down. He's up to 37 laps with a best of...

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Austria he won, but was slower in the 2nd stint. Mercedes knew he would be so they gave him a big tyre offset with Vettel (bottas had 8 lap fresher tyres) but was still caught with Vettel hounding him at the end. He was slower than Vettel, but I am not sure if he was slower than Hamilton. If he was...

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The lead car had an issue that nobody knew how it would play out. Also, if Hamilton and Raikkonen had contact then he may have been able to get both of them. The best position to be was about 2 seconds behind Hamilton out of the hot air and ready to attack if i)Vettel slowed more and became a sitti...

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I doubt that simply because - What the hell would he invite Verstappen on his tail for? Of all people. Makes no sense Bottas was asked to move over for his teammate, so his race was finished. Why would he continue to push like the team asked him to? It was in his best interest to slow down as much ...

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If Bottas stuck with him then the argument for 5 laps could be made. But he was dropped like a stone by the top 3, coming after his bizarrely exaggerated way of running off line at Turn 1 to give the place to Hamilton and losing a chunk of time - Jolyon Palmer could give him lessons in how to do it...

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First you push the driver out, and than you tell him to undertake the suction of certain body parts. I am not impressed with that. Magnussen should not be proud of it. That didn't paint Mag in a good light at all. He should be summoned to Paris, to explain why he uses such language. Children watch ...

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Lt. Drebin wrote:First you push the driver out, and than you tell him to undertake the suction of certain body parts. I am not impressed with that. Magnussen should not be proud of it.

That didn't paint Mag in a good light at all.

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"Earlier in the year" - you mean when his team pitted him from the lead into traffic for no other reason than to get the golden boy ahead? ;) :lol: But yes, the perfect submissive teamplayer. That's why he'll get a new contract. Take a look at the lap times from Monaco. Kimi ran into traffic at fir...

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Bottas was saving his engine and wasn't bothered about the front 3 while risking Verstappen gettng so close that getting 3rd back was being made more difficult. From Mercedes' perspective this was a perfect strategy. They did not want Verstappen to re-enter the fight for podium positions. Bottas ha...

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I'm sure Bottas wasn't getting in the DRS zone, Hamilton was 0.8 behind Bottas even in the twisty middle sector. Hamilton was clearly faster than Bottas and was in the DRS zone and then Bottas fell behind the front 3. Hamilton was at most slightly faster. He would never have gotten in front of Bott...

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Incorrect. Hamilton said over the radio, let me by if I don't pull away I will let him back past (Hamilton had the slower tyre or so shouldn't have been quicker). Mercedes ignored this anyway and ordered Bottas to just get out of the way and not fight Hamilton who was 1 second per lap quicker at th...

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mikeyg123 wrote: This driving off the track is becoming ridiculous. Bottas did it to Verstappen, Sainz did it to Alonso and Magnussen did it to Hulkenberg.

It is becoming a pattern that running somebody off the track is entirely permissible while making mistakes is a lottery in terms of penalties.

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Though, I would put this solely on Lewis alone, being hit by the lightening of sportsmanship. He had good reason not to do it. After Bottas let him pass, he apparently gave up and fell behind with Max closing on him. I doubt that he was ever really threatened by Max, though. Lewis is still on pace ...

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If it was an overtaking track, they wouldn't have had a choice in the matter. Hungary again conspiring to throw up issues that wont occur elsewhere. Decent race all in again, congratulations to Ferrari for making it stick even with Vettel's issues. Kimi has probably just guaranteed himself another ...

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Plus he now escapes the boos. :lol: What from you? Whilst Vettel wins fair and square despite Kimi not being allowed to challenge him. Was there a call for Kimi to hold station? He asked if this is how its going to be for the rest of the race, and was told yes. I'll wait for the full transcripts bu...

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Great "racing" by Hamilton.

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IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Vettel is certainly in trouble..

Vettel's lap times are getting worse quickly. Seems like he has an issue.

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Herb Tarlik wrote: He locked a wheel AND took out another car. Perfectly avoidable and I am pleased that the FIA penalized him.

It should be a penalty, but not if its applied selectively like we are seeing now.

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red_alert wrote:
Logspeed wrote:Not a penalty for me.
How is it not a penalty, if he yielded they both could of made the corner he kept attacking went too deep, all his error.

Precedent. Bottas ran into Kimi in Baku and didn't get a penalty. This lack of consistency is annoying.

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chetan_rao wrote: One fly in that WDC soup, Bottas.

I accounted for that, assuming that Hamilton would win four races to Bottas' three and finish 3rd twice to Bottas' once. Of course Mercedes could get behind their leading driver in the last few races, which would increase their chances.

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Given that we are halfway through the season, it may be interesting to extrapolate how the rest of the championship may unfold. This will obviously be incredibly simplified and involve a number of assumptions, but let's see where it leads. There are 10 races left and it looks like only 2-3 of the re...

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This one should be easy sailing for SV with his rear gunner sitting between him and the Mercs. I can see SV-VB-KR-LH finishing the race in that order. A safety car can throw a screwdriver into the works, so the race can still be interesting. I can also see MV overtaking LH at the first corner. If M...

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Herb Tarlik wrote:One of the Mercedes cars will blow by Kimi at the start. Bottas is my guess who.

I am pretty sure that Kimi still remembers Bottas running into him in Baku so there could be some fireworks in turn 1 if they are side by side.

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Sevenfest wrote: Sweet Badoer! I'd completely forgotten about that career killing moment

To be fair, Fisichella couldn't get that Ferrari up to speed either, and that was shortly after he narrowly lost the Spa race to Kimi. Obviously it was not an easy car to drive.

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In other news, McLaren seems to be improving, even if this is one of the least power-dependent tracks. I don't think so, sadly. They've scored points at Hungary in every year of the Honda period; it's clearly a track that hides their power deficit, so it's no surprise if they're 7th this year as we...

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what if Alonso gets a 2 year contract at Ferrari , would that influence a vettel retirement in any way and then we have a young max jumping up and down in the distance , take me , take me -it reminds me of my 2 dogs when I get the dog lead out Alonso is not going to Ferrari and he's not going to Me...

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what if Alonso gets a 2 year contract at Ferrari , would that influence a vettel retirement in any way and then we have a young max jumping up and down in the distance , take me , take me -it reminds me of my 2 dogs when I get the dog lead out Alonso is not going to Ferrari and he's not going to Me...

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Does this sudden pace makes of Ricciardo a surprise title contender? They seem competitive, but Verstappen is 0.5 seconds behind Ricciardo, which I think is down to different strategies. Ferrari and Merc will turn up the wick tomorrow whereas I am not sure if RBR has anything left in the bag. I wou...

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Kimi hasn't been on tier 1 money since 2010 when he got tier 1 money not to drive. The thing I find staggering is that Senna was apparently on $1 million per race in 1993, $16 million per season when Mclarens budget was less than $50 million USD. The best paid driver now gets less than 10% of the a...

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The one(Kimi) who should be retiring, isn't budging at the moment! Kimi is very comfortable. He gets a tier 1 driver salary for tier 2 performance at best. He has set the expectations low and he is obviously not phased too much by losing to his teammate. I still support him out of habit, but at thi...

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It's just that after seeing Rosberg do it, the whole logic that I was working on changed a bit. I think the difference is that Hamilton, Vettel, and Alonso are trying to build legacies rather than just have careers in F1. Rosberg retired because he accepted his limitations and also achieved what he...

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The one(Kimi) who should be retiring, isn't budging at the moment! Kimi is very comfortable. He gets a tier 1 driver salary for tier 2 performance at best. He has set the expectations low and he is obviously not phased too much by losing to his teammate. I still support him out of habit, but at thi...

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paul_gmb wrote:It would not surprise me if Vettel retires end of the year, if he wins the championship.

I doubt that Vettel (or Hamilton for that matter) will retire anytime soon. It would be less surprising if Alonso retires from F1 unless he gets a competitive ride for next season.

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This race has the feel of being Ferrari's last stand. If they can't dominate here, then their chances look very grim.

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This is the top echelon of racing and some acceptable level of risk has to be there. Otherwise, they might just as well switch to racing virtual cars in a computer simulation. If safety is paramount over everything else, then that is the only logical conclusion. No it's not, I see this argument a l...

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