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Anyone else get the feeling some of the top drivers might not actually finish? Track limits are quite strictly enforced here.

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Only sort of though. Its simply how you measure the the "literal, objective technical objectives". The camera is there to observe the result, the law says it shouldn't flex under race conditions, the guide is an at rest measurement thats too low. If the teams complied with the criteria of the camera...

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I think the answer is going to be that the video is cropped UU. You need to see the whole wing, is it different to other wings?
Its not different from the Mercedes wing a year ago, (see above).

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First time I heard him I thought this guy is trying to imitate Brundle (didn't realise it was his son). He doesn't just 'sound' like him, he has the same mannerisms and some of the same phrases. Uncanny! Given the fact he has very, very similar DNA and the original as a role model its not that surp...

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Its all Verstappen's fault anyway, if he hadn't overtaken Lewis in the first place he wouldn't have noticed the rear wing moved at all. ;) Didn't he bring it up after Spain qualy? Dastardly Verstappen, overtaking our Lewis like it's a Sunday drive. No wonder he doesn't have the stats that our Lewis...

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Its all Verstappen's fault anyway, if he hadn't overtaken Lewis in the first place he wouldn't have noticed the rear wing moved at all.

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I've not got a great deal of understanding of technical things but I don't believe we are talking about the same thing, the whole structure of the Red Bull rear wing has been designed to drop lower at a greater speed then come back up again under braking, the equivalent of the front wing would be t...

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Excellent explanation ATH, nice to have someone who not only understands it but gives a clear explanation. It will be interesting to see how all this pans out now. I'm not sure why the issue can't be addressed until after the GP where it will have the greatest influence but there may be a legitimate...

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There's a vid from Portugal earlier in the thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R_fqI63ESU Is there an uncropped version of that video because with the edges cut out that looks no different to any front wing on a modern f1 car - see Verstappen‘s here: https://youtu.be/V2vGlUqVGQ0 That type of f...

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10 Teams, 4 teams using it, 2 publicly objecting to it, 4 teams ........ watching, hiding, shy?

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There's a vid from Portugal earlier in the thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R_fqI63ESU Is there an uncropped version of that video because with the edges cut out that looks no different to any front wing on a modern f1 car - see Verstappen‘s here: https://youtu.be/V2vGlUqVGQ0 That type of f...

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The Mercedes front wing https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Technical/co ... ng_of_the/ was flexing like that a year ago, see comments and video so its not new.

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Yeah, Sky just showed the Merc front wing bending at least as much as the Red Bull rear wing. Is there a link or a vid I wonder? There's a vid from Portugal earlier in the thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R_fqI63ESU Ah, thank you, there's quite a lot of flexing there. I think Mercedes also ...

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Seidel and Wolff stating there are 4 teams running 'bendy rear wings' at the moment Red Bull, Ferrari. Alfa Remeo and ?

Mercedes might have a bendy front wing. The decision to delay testing has annoyed Seidel and Wolff. Not much FIA favouritism there obviously.

Wing test delay 'incomprehensible'

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I would say obviously Verstappen has more to prove, but it is illuminating to see Hamilton's insecurity and pompousness with his comments on this. “I think perhaps, as you know, he feels perhaps he has a lot to prove. I’m not necessarily in the same boat there. I’m more long term, kind of ‘it’s a m...

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I would say obviously Verstappen has more to prove, but it is illuminating to see Hamilton's insecurity and pompousness with his comments on this. “I think perhaps, as you know, he feels perhaps he has a lot to prove. I’m not necessarily in the same boat there. I’m more long term, kind of ‘it’s a m...

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Nice livery, but... yawn already. Looks like a team in F1 has adopted a NASCAR "retro" or "throw-back" weekend color scheme, and that comparison isn't good. It truly is impossible to please some people... Actually I'm quite easy to please, just that when I reminisce of the period, the Gulf liveries...

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.......Christian Horner summing up my feelings on this so far: .... Horner expressed a weariness over Mercedes trying to deflect attention on to Red Bull by saying the challengers are favourites over the reigning champions......... Shouldn't Horner be expressing his weariness over Red Bull being fo...

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I love it, its a one off in recognition of a renewed tie-up between Gulf Oil and McLaren last year, that tie up goes back to the 1960s.

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Helmut Marko has claimed even Alpine & Alfa Romeo are using flexible wings. https://f1i.com/news/405484-marko-red-bull-not-only-team-targeted-by-new-bendy-wing-tests.html I mentioned this at the start, which is why the trip into 'Mercedes get preferential treatment' thread seems just a personal cru...

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Hamilton just does not need to be comforted by the whole team like Schumacher in order to rack up the records - that is a strength of him. What records did Hamilton hold or break when he had a top driver alongside him? As far as I’m aware, none. He might have held some obscure records here and ther...

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Yeah if Max had won the race we probably would be asking how many races is he going to win with this wing before it gets banned, it harks back to the Vettel years were they would put something dodgy on the car win a race or two before the stewards cottoned on to what Red Bull were doing and then ba...

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Better video that Mayhem posted in the other thread. You have a grid which shows the difference. YBWUefSl5tI That's much clearer, I had trouble spotting it on the other video, thanks Clarky. Question for me is "How did it get noticed in the first place"? Bearing in mind it is only visible at high s...

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But Hamilton needs to stop opening the door on lap 1 for Max. Max needs to learn that he has to give more space and can't just push people off the circuit and expect to get away with it. Hamilton is currently leading the championship so if they both crash and DNF it's advantage Hamilton. So yeah......

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If it is Mercedes that have noticed dodgy things. then good on them for bringing it up with the FIA. By the way, are there any pictures on-line that show what they are talking about? Sure - but when they do dodgy things it is considered innovation (such as DAS, which never should have been allowed ...

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Seems that Hamilton has successfully brought the " flexible rear wing issue " to the attention of the FIA who will install onboard cameras to check for rear wing movement even if the wings pass the current flexibility tests.
No teams mentioned by name of course!

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All this talk of a wingman seems to me to be a bit of an irrelevance. In interview at the weekend Hamilton was like an 18yer old kid. He seems to thrive on the competition be it with Verstappen externally or Russell internally. Verstappen is fast but Hamilton is tactical, his instinct is to get ove...

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All his talk a wingman seems to me to be a bit of an irrelevance. In interview at the weekend Hamilton was like an 18yer old kid. He seems to thrive on the competition be it with Verstappen externally or Russell internally. Verstappen is fast but Hamilton is tactical, his instinct is to get over the...

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This. Whist it's so close, small mistakes can make all the difference. Hamilton can count himself fortunate that his one big mistake (Imola) did not cost him 18 (or 19, considering that he nagged FL as well) points. What I do like is that both protagonists seem to be reveling in the fight. Let's be...

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UnlikeUday wrote: ↑
Sun May 09, 2021 9:17 am
Pit stop strategies as predicted by pirelli. The fastest way around is a 2 stopper.

Source - Imgur

Its only fast if you get no obstructions in front of you. Track position is going to be king isn't it?

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Verstappen had a broken front wing in FP1 and another in FP2. Failing to set a time in second practice after going off. He does seem to struggle with staying on the track doesn't he. That's two off track overtakes he has had to give back and several 'lost laps' in practice as well as the lost faste...

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Ok, thanks. Even from the youtube image it looks like the white lines are on the inside of the kerbs, between them and the track. But I am not sure, that's why I am asking! They defined in the pre-race notes at which corners the white lines or the red/white curbs would govern, and apparently this w...

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Christian Horner said at the weekend that he found the track limits issue to be inconsistent, my feeling is that he really shouldn't be surprised that the fastest lap required drivers to stay within track limits as its basically a quality lap in the race. I really like the fact that track limits are...

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I would disregard the track limits, as everyone (or in this case both) does it. It only became a matter because Max lost the fastest lap, but I wouldn't count it as a separate mistake And pole position. Perhaps the race as well since the whole Red Bull race set both strategy and craws based on Max ...

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If Pirelli is right (hah-hah, yeah right), a lot of the grid have got themselves on the wrong foot by qualifying on mediums despite there being no real advantage. This Pirelli thing is massively affecting the sport now and its annoying! We are going to bigger wheels because they can't build a safe ...

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"Formula 1 drivers are joining this weekend’s boycott of social media, in protest at online abuse. Some - for example Lewis Hamilton, Charles Leclerc, Daniel Ricciardo and several others - have been explicit about it." Quote from the BBC Seems that others Carlos Sainz, Valtteri Bottas have been clea...

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Looks like I'm in the minority, I'm actually looking forward to this - it's not artificial, and should add an extra element of excitement to the weekend. The current qualifying format has become a bit dry. Being in the minority doesn't mean you are wrong! It might be the rest of us that are wrong o...

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How's putting an extra 100km burden on the engines (plus more first lap incidents) are going to work with the engine lives and the budget cap? Something's not adding up Good point, suddenly engine longevity and reliability play an increasing part, how much extra wear and tear is a race over qualify...

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So why would Ben Hodgkinson head of mechanical engineering at Mercedes High Performance Powertrains, leave Mercedes to become technical director at Red Bull's equivalent department then?rl]https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/56863348[/url] Maybe because they pay more? That is obvious! From Pokerma...

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Two sets of tyres for a grand prix? Wasn’t the consensus that everyone managing tyres and one stopping was boring? The other issue is with only two sets of tyres for race day what happens if you get a puncture early on in the race? You wouldn't have a tyre to finish the race on safely. Perhaps you ...

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