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BMWSauber84 wrote:A tough scenario to predict. How hungry would Rosberg have been for it? He would likely have been more competitive than Bottas but beyind that, who knows?

Given he retired the answer is 'not very'

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How does rewriting the engine regulations so that Mercedes, Renault, Honda and Ferrari have to spend millions designing yet another new generation of engines help towards cutting costs in the slightest?

There's nothing wrong with the current engines, fix everything else wrong with Formula 1 first.

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I've just seen what Grosjean was penalised for. He's turned into an absolute joke of a driver this season. In my opinion, his penalty is a joke. Drivers nowadays have the habit to squeeze the overtaken car out of the track, which is ridiculous. Alonso hits the apex perfectly and takes the racing li...

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I've just seen what Grosjean was penalised for.

He's turned into an absolute joke of a driver this season.

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Pretty disappointed they're getting rid of the MGU-H. Seems pushing tech comes second to 'DA NOIZE!!!!11!'

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It's terribly unlucky for Daniel of late but I think Max went through this in the first half of the season so it evens out a bit within the team and becomes more representative in terms of the points. Ricciardo's now had worse luck with reliability than Verstappen. 3 engine failures and 1 brake fai...

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It's terribly unlucky for Daniel of late but I think Max went through this in the first half of the season so it evens out a bit within the team and becomes more representative in terms of the points. Ricciardo's now had worse luck with reliability than Verstappen. 3 engine failures and 1 brake fai...

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People are seriously underestimating Ricciardo in this thread.

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Don't know whether its already been mentioned; but watching the replay on C4 they were pointing out that on a number of occasions Hamilton didn't deploying DRS down the main straight when it was available. It wasn't available, Hamilton was frequently dropping back over a second at times. Ben Edward...

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It's not just those two. I've heard comments from Button, Ricciardo, Verstappen and others. I think people who are directly involved in F1 mostly see Vettel as behind the Hamiltons and Alonsos of the world in terms of ability. They think of him as someone who has always been in the right place at t...

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Hamilton and Alonso have both done the hard yards in F1 - it's ridiculous that a driver of Alonso's talent has only won 2 titles, whereas only Graham Hill has waited as long as Hamilton did for his 2nd title. Whereas Vettel just showed up in the right car at the right time and won races and titles ...

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Greenman wrote:.

Did Vettel ever hand that place back to Massa, I didn't hear anything ?

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Why would he?

Vettel only ended up off the track because Massa shoved him off.

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Anyone not voting Verstappen is at it.

Is that the biggest winning margin of the season?

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Ferrari have a driver problem. One has excellent speed but the habit of messing it up. And no second driver to jump in. They should have won a lot more races this year. Vettel faded pretty bad this year and Kimi faded many many years ago. So yes, Ferrari do indeed have a driver problem. For 2019 I ...

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Interestingly when we're looking at potential for next year, in the half lap after Hamilton passed Alonso, Alonso seriously came back at him. With more grunt behind him he would have been in with a serious shout of re-passing him into turn 1.

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Watching the helicopter shot Vettel should never have hit Hamilton. I'm not surprised that Hamilton asked over the radio whether it was deliberate, it was a shocking bit of driving from Vettel. The FIA ignored investigating this incidence all because of the championship points situation. It's truly...

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pokerman wrote:When you hit someone's car it means you didn't leave enough room, bodywork flew off Hamilton's car.

I thought the bodywork was Alonso's.

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Lewis raced that with a damaged diffuser. Puts his struggles into perspective.

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Watching the helicopter shot Vettel should never have hit Hamilton. I'm not surprised that Hamilton asked over the radio whether it was deliberate, it was a shocking bit of driving from Vettel.

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In a strange way it was an exciting race even though really we all assumed the title race was long over. Well perhaps I'm only speaking for myself. Anyway, hugely impressive from Max Verstappen. Red Bull are genuinely competitive with Mercedes and Ferrari. I don't think they'll quite be this strong...

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Alonso hits Hamiltons car and then asks about track limits, the only driver that played it clean was Hamilton. Was a lovely little duel there though. Apart from Alonso asking about a legal pass He only asked in hope and his voice was resigned, because usually he'd be screaming about an illegal move...

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Bit disappointing that everyone's just jumped out of Vettel's way.

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That sucks for Ocon. I'd ban pitting under the VSC.

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The OP is about FIA/FOM helping Ferrari through the technical regulations ... which isn't happening. Not anymore that we know of, but Bernie is clearly insinuating that this was happening on Moseley's watch, and there certainly were some 'interesting' calls on the legality of certain items on cars ...

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love that 99% of the voters feel it was illegal yet we still have 4 pages of discussion. I think the clue is in the fact that 1 in every 4 voters think no penalty was needed. Perhaps I should reread the thread, because I don't understand how they say it is illegal, yet the result should stand... 8O...

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Hamilton is in a really interesting position as his fourth title is entirely dependent on the racing gods. Does he try to win this race for the kudos and the cherry on top at the risk of straining his machinery? Or run a conservative engine mode and ensure he finishes fifth? I'd imagine it would be...

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Hamilton and Alonso have both done the hard yards in F1 - it's ridiculous that a driver of Alonso's talent has only won 2 titles, whereas only Graham Hill has waited as long as Hamilton did for his 2nd title. Whereas Vettel just showed up in the right car at the right time and won races and titles g...

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Alonso must be fuming at his engine penalty this weekend. Surely he must be very much used to these penalties by now. Starting at the back row is pretty common for any Honda powered car. He'll be used to it but this is probably the one circuit where Honda's power deficit is masked. And judging by h...

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Let's hope that Renault don't take a step backward or even stand still over the winter with their PU. With a near equal PU in the McLaren and RB cars next year could be a hell of a season. If Renault can pull a good engine for next year (they're far too good to continually get it wrong) then 2018 w...

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If the pass had been allowed to stand then Raikkonen would have been robbed having given a masterclass in defensive driving throughout the 3rd sector. I don't really agree - he had the good fortune of having been able to draw DRS off Vettel to not get passed on the straight, then he had the good fo...

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Alonso must be fuming at his engine penalty this weekend.

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Interesting that Alonso at the moment is purple through sector 2.

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Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:Grosjean ran out of talent again?
didn't his tyre delaminate? How's that talent-related?

His tyre delaminated because he binned it out of the final turn.

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Herb Tarlik wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:You couldn't make it up with Honda right now. Stoff's new unit has gone and is being replaced with yet another new unit.
A Honda engine can't last a single session and yet people continue to state that McLaren should have stuck with Honda.

Inexplicable.

Yeah but works support

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Covalent wrote:
Clarky wrote:What stands out here is how aggressive Mercedes have gone with their tyres.
They have almost bang on the average amount of softs, supersofts and ultrasofts.

Not compared to Ferrari and Red Bull.

What Sauber or Haas have done isn't really relevant to the point made.

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Apparently Lauda and Andretti have backed the Verstappens. So they are not alone. Of course their defence was along the lines "a driver should be racing, you are destroying the sport like that". Max himself said more or less that others have done this and the fans got robbed by him not being on the...

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Verstappen33 wrote:Kimi was not passing but of course gains an advantage in staying in front of Max by this way of driving.

In the 2nd picture Kimi is taking the normal racing line through the corner. Literally every driver leaves the circuit at that turn.

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Like I said I'm a bit disappointed that Verstappen is going down that route especially after saying that he would do just as well in either the Mercedes or Ferrari, fighting talk. Then later he says I will give that a miss because the goal is to win multiple titles and not test myself against the b...

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Every 'I'm quicker than Esteban' whine should be met with 'remember Canada.' Where Perez defended as if his life depended on it against Ocon, ignored team orders, cost his team a podium yet rolled out the red carpet for the Ferraris.

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