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ferdinand

so now we are up to twelve pages on an "unarguable" title. Must be a lot of love being shared since it is not arguable. ;) Eh, even as a Vettel fan I thought the title was stretching it. Unarguably in the OP's mind, probably. Don't ask me who the best is as I won't be able to give the answer. Neith...

ferdinand

It's a fair statement. At the start of the season, I argued the only two driver pairings that could match Hamilton/Rosberg were Vettel/Webber and possibly Alonso/Massa. The latter relied heavily on Massa driving closer to how he finished out 2012, rather than reverting back to his early season form...

ferdinand

Agree.
Alonso is 2 ranks above Massa, Raikkonen is 1.5 ranks above Grossjean, and Vettel is 1 rank above Webber.
Hamilton-Rosberg are almost equal, or maybe Hamilton is only 0.25 rank higher at most.
These are all my opinions only.

ferdinand

Vettel never gets any credit. What do you mean Vettel never gets any credit? everyone rates him as one of the top 3/4 drivers on the grid Vettel never gets any credit. Vettel gets credit, he's recognised as being at worst, in the top 4 drivers on the grid. You're right. But maybe these are what Tur...

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Agree. Most Hammy and Alonso fans are just jealous of Vettel and bad losers. Like I said before, Vettel and RedBull dominance came as a shock for most people and they are still having a hard time coping with reality. Post traumatic stress after the Schumacher era. I can't say I agree with that opin...

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F1Mad wrote:In a car Hamilton has had little time to adjust in, he is comfortably beating Rosberg, who is much better than Massa or Webber.

wooow..... what a fact......

ferdinand

In four 1-2's for RBR during the 2010 season Webber lead one of them taking points off Vettel. In the other three Seb was first so Mark was taking points off Alonso. There were a couple of other races where Mark was a spot or two behind Vettel but still ahead of Fernando, so still taking points off...

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I agree, if he doesn’t prove himself against Vettel by beating him initially then he most likely will become a number 2 once he is realistically out of contention for the title. I just dont think Red Bull will make him a number 2 from the outset , I think they will give him a good enough chance to ...

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RBR pump more money into the sport than any other team so of course they can run two reliable cars. However, it makes no sense for them to do so because the second car will cost the first car the WDC . They are winning the WCC yearly regardless. Let's remember Vettel won 2 of his 3 championships by...

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A lot of people forget Mark was the lead Red Bull driver at the half-way point in 2012 and was only eight points behind exiting the thirteenth round. He'd by no means been blown out of the water by that point and Sebastian only stretched his advantage when Red Bull really locked the car into his li...

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Schumacher broke his leg, Massa had an iron rod hit his head and almost lost his life........ big difference, and hence totally different effect IMO

ferdinand

I saw a thread for rating drivers... but it seemed funny as most here say GP racing is more about the cars, but there didn't seem to be a thread. So opinions on the cars so far... cheers! My ratings: Mercedes - Without going too deep into how's, let me just say that they have the best car out there...

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garagetinkerer wrote:My ratings:

Mercedes - ........ 10..........

RBR - 9

Lotus - 8.5

Ferrari - 8

FI & McLaren - 7

Going to the 2nd half, yes, I agree, but FI should be lower than McLaren.

ferdinand

You'd better keep this thread's URL until Nov 24 and revisit.

ferdinand

Red bull got 33/38 poles in 2010 and 2011. Car was a beast in qualifying. In the hands off Vettel, it isn't that easy that it suits every other driver, look at Lewis in the start of this year Before they changed brakes and had the tires replaced, look at Kimi in 2008 when the Ferrari didn't suit hi...

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Formula1Fan. wrote:As a comparison, I rarely see Lewis held up for that long behind any car.

Monaco 2013 - held up by a slower car until the chequered flag

ferdinand

Only if Vettel retires, there's no way RBR would have him challenge . Expect more fuel bowsers, multi 21s , KERS and loose wheels if Mark looks quicker. Look at the two parts I have underlined. Multi 21 is (or was, as apparently they no longer use multi 21 or multi 12) the team telling Vettel not t...

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So, David Coulthard is joining this thread: "If this continues for that much longer, you have to wonder how much longer Alonso can stay at Ferrari." "He is 32 this year. He has still has five or so years left at the very top level, perhaps a bit more, but if Ferrari cannot get it together soon he i...

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The question is, which team Raikkonen will choose? Lotus is looking stronger than ever and next year all developments will be reset, he's guaranteed as the lead driver by the principal, the team is built around him, he's also paid well. If I were him, I wouldn't leave Lotus.

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Even if Red Bull can't get Raikkonen, Button may not be their target. And why should Button leave his comfort at his team - McLaren? It's only a year off and he knows McLaren is always a title contender.

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Formula1Fan. wrote:
ferdinand wrote:If I started alongside Webber and never got a good start flying past him, does it mean my clutch is sabotaged?
If you started alongside Webber and never got a good start flying past him I'd say you were in reverse gear!

ferdinand

Seeing how he drove yesterday, I agree. But overall since 2012, no (or maybe not yet)

ferdinand

Monaco, May 26, 2013 Keeping my tin foil hat on, unlike the other tracks giving Webber a bad start at Monaco could cause a catastrophic incident. The advantages of Webber getting a poor start for RBR? he blocks whoever is behind him holding up the entire field for Vettel to get away (particularly A...

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He qualified alongside Vettel, that's what happened. :nod: It is a coincidence whenever he qualifies alongside Vettel he has a poor start & at Malaysia when he was 8th or so he was 3rd by turn 3 which must have scared Horner He should realise, any time he is in line with Vettel he will have a bad s...

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Ferrari did a Pirelli test with the tyres and they are doing badly now. So doing a test with Pirelli makes you slower? You do know that Mercedez tested using their current car with their current drivers, right? And you do know Ferrari tested using 2011 car and another driver, right? What is it that...

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Thanks for the analysis, Patrick. However, I read this from your article: "Compared to Brawn-Mercedes’s other driver, Barichello’s two wins in the last half of the season, confirms the Red Bull-Renault car’s superiority..........." Do you mean Brawn's superiority? I agree it was the overall best and...

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Crash gate of course...... putting someone's life in danger of high-speed accident is absolutely unacceptable, a thing only exists in briatore's head

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Schumacher did 7 installation laps and almost smashed the lap record. First time ever driving F1 car. Till today and maybe ever in the history of F1 . I doubt any driver will do 7 installation laps first time in an F1 car and almost break the lap record. I think this record could stand for at least...

ferdinand

A better reasoning for Red Bull using TC would be that Webber's starts haven't been absolutely diabolical in the last handful of races, not skidmarks being left from a driver exiting a tight corner off-line. Ha! How true. Mark has had two excellent starts in a row. Unprecedented? That will always h...

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Can we have your ratings on Massa before and after head injury? Thanks

ferdinand

Vettel has beaten Webber. Doesn't matter if you think Webber is a hack or if you think he's hard done by, the fact is Vettel has so far only proven he is better than Webber. Nothing more. Until he gets a few more internal victories over more varied competition he simply cannot be mentioned in the s...

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How can we possibly measure it? The only way is to sit in the grandstand and count the time lapsed between the live race and the race we see on TV, especially when a car is passing the start/finish line.

ferdinand

Thats very subjective. We have no data to back up that the RB has been the out and out best car for the last 3 years. I dont think anyone will deny the 2011 one was but at the begining of last year they were struggling just as Ferrari were. I think the claim of having the best car shifted around in...

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The last car/team that were clearly superior to the RB were... BRAWN! And they were only superior for half a year. No, the last car better than RBR was 2012 McLaren... A car that has problems in 50% of the races is hardly any competition 50% is an exageration maybe? Red Bull also had problems altho...

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Well, I didnt have a clue about that American slavery thing, Im from Europe. lol Alonso moved from a WCC winning team to the team that finished third the past year, in my book this is moving to a worse team . He didnt do it intentionally, but it doesnt matter because it happened. When I say win the...

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No, he's not. It's the same 2009 world champion JB that we're seeing.

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Vettel: 2008=-1.2; 2009= +0.1; 2010= +0.2; 2011= =0.1; 2012=0.0. Schumacher: 1992=-0.2; 1993=-0.3; 1994=+0.1; 1995=-0.2; 1996=-0.8; 1997=-0.5; 1998=-0.3; 1999=-0.2; 2000=0.0; 2001=-0.1; 2002=+0.2; 2003=-0.1; 2004=-0.1 ; 2005=-1.5 for F2004 and -0.7 for F2005; 2006=0.0; 2010=-0.4; 2011=-1.2; 2012=-0...

ferdinand

Pretty average weekend for MW. He simply has to qualify better, starting 5th when your teammate is on pole doesn't cut it. Blue flags or not I also think he should stop trying to overtake drivers on the apex , the Vergne incident was almost identical to the Van der Garde incident. On the plus side,...

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Right or wrong, it would be naive to expect that Vettel will not be booed on more occasions this year, and at Australia 2014 (if he achieves a podium). As for unsportsmanlike behaviour, Multi-21 is still quite fresh in peoples' minds. The thing is, like other posts say, he was booed not because of ...

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My prediction: Bottas would never get the 3rd grid with his Williams if it was dry yesterday. If the race today is dry, he will disappear very quickly. Don't be surprised if he loses 5 or 6 places in the 1st lap only. Vettel is the same, he wouldn't have got the pole if it wasn't raining, it should'...

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