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F1Oz

And Daniel has had more
Failures where RBR was likely to score better points- even in Mexico he’d have likely got 3rd or perhaps 2nd -and 3rd at the US - whereas fewer retirements for Max lost him big points (but some obviously)

F1Oz

Not as simple as that ReservoirD - if McLaren have Renault engines for 2019, and RBR have Honda (as they won't have Renault, Mercedes or Ferrari apparently) - then it depends on how Honda develop through TR next year - who knows, perhaps it will be a TR world champ in 2018 and RBR with Honda the pla...

F1Oz

Wow - I can vaguely remember a Shadow driven by Alan Jones - but really got into F1 when he was in Williams

Almost went to Monza in 1982 - but for some reason it fell through (in Italy as an exchange) - so never got to a live F1 race till 2004 Melbourne - with a few former members here as well

F1Oz

I just say to those arguing at the track limits rules - SANDTRAPS (many of these drivers would be OUT - multiple times a race) - and the comment about Austin - if it was grass, would Max have been there - err, absolutely no - or he'd have crashed into KR and either put both out or been penalised mor...

F1Oz

like a number of seasons - a few 'bad results' can change the season - just like Webber (or Alonso) could have won 2010 - the former with just one better result (which would have been deserved - but we also have some teams where we know that the equipment wasn't equal, the 'better engine' (the one t...

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Agree with Zoue - the contact was more likely against Max - but he got lucky - just a few cm bad luck

F1Oz

I think Nico would be doing better than Bottas (more reliable for one thing) but it wouldn't have changed much - I would have expected LH to still win but Nico to have provided more competition - but also more competition against Ferrari

F1Oz

So wish Dan had gone race distance - think he'd have got podium seeing he was pushing Kimi hard and probably had pace to pull away 'if' he'd managed to overtake. But we'll never know and 5 laps is too short to give him any votes (well from me anyway)

F1Oz

I think it would be fair to say that he could be the best. 'Could be" is the key part of that statement. The way hype builds around drivers is incredible and often fickle. Daniel Ricciardo was being branded the best driver on the grid by many in 2014. Now in the wake of Verstappen, the honey badger...

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Thanks for the info - but are those retirements just down to 'mechanical' retirements? I think that accidents or errors shouldn't count in reliability

F1Oz

Even as a Dan fan - he was competitive at the end of the Japanese GP - hard to fault that

F1Oz

fake impeding - I've heard it all now lol

F1Oz

Sorry for your loss

F1Oz

whoever gets Dan will get a great driver

F1Oz

Exactly - had Ocon not illegally defended - Dan would have been seriously closer and who knows

F1Oz

Ricciardo will need a change of underpants after that near miss He needs to figure out how to beat his teammate. jeez, max is blowing him away again. Unlucky to be on the outside for turn 1 on the 'supposed' better line - unlike last race where it was a major advantage to be on 1-3-5-etc due to the...

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Ricciardo will need a change of underpants after that near miss He needs to figure out how to beat his teammate. jeez, max is blowing him away again. Unlucky to be on the outside for turn 1 on the 'supposed' better line - unlike last race where it was a major advantage to be on 1-3-5-etc due to the...

F1Oz

Got to be illegal blocking from Ocon - moved 4 or more times to block Ricciardo

F1Oz

Channel 10 has decided (without notice) to just drop the last two GP it was to show live this year in Australia after Singapore - sigh - channel 10, home of anti-motor sport it seems

F1Oz

Zoue wrote:I'm just grateful no-one chose to be Mod DarkGoldenRod

I'll get my coat...

Lol - is that you C3PO?

F1Oz

Zoue wrote:I'm just grateful no-one chose to be Mod DarkGoldenRod

I'll get my coat...

Lol - is that you C3PO?

F1Oz

The interesting difference is if a RBR (or both) can get good starts and get ahead - I don't think they can easily defend against the Merc in terms of straight line speed but it would be interesting. Hopefully it's Dan

F1Oz

With Red Bull desperate for an engine for 2019 there could be ways for Mercedes to persuade Red Bull to relinquish their claim on Verstappen. I like this thinking I was thinking about something along similar lines, maybe tied to Aston Martin?. A nice re-badged Mercedes unit with all the trimmings f...

F1Oz

With Red Bull desperate for an engine for 2019 there could be ways for Mercedes to persuade Red Bull to relinquish their claim on Verstappen. I like this thinking I was thinking about something along similar lines, maybe tied to Aston Martin?. A nice re-badged Mercedes unit with all the trimmings f...

F1Oz

Look, I'm not the greatest Vettel fan here - I've even put my 2 cents into the collision being mainly Seb's fault (based on the video from Stroll's car) - but after the race has finished, when the car has to be craned (and can be safely without concern about racing vehicles) - honestly, I have to vo...

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I'd guess Lewis and Valterie are comfortable with the aero package at the moment - but as others have said - this isn't about the topic and surely you can address this discussion in another thread? (Mods?)

F1Oz

Zoue - but Stroll was going slowly and 'slowly' changing line - whereas Vettel changed line like he was racing on an open track without anyone there - that's the issue - even if Stroll had moved to the extreme left, they'd still probably have connected - despite more than half a track clear for Vett...

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Great effort KingVoid - could you do it for Merc / Ferrari / RB?

F1Oz

Stroll was keeping more or less to the left and on steering wheel, CLEARLY didn't change his line - until right at the end when he realised Vettel was there and he turned away from Vettel Others have posted video link there was more than half the track for Seb to have driven around Stroll without co...

F1Oz

I think the definition of dominating needs defining - Max has generally beaten Dan by .1 of a second or less - or maybe .1 sec on ave (and the other way when it happens as well) I'd have thought that was pretty damn even - dominating for me is .3-.5 secs

What do others think?

F1Oz

I don't really see evidence that Ricciardo would have probably overtaken Hamilton. He did lose a lot of time after his pitstop given how long he was kept out but he never got close to Hamilton, who also likely had pace in hand to defend against a real charge, albeit less pace in hand than Max. Inva...

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mds - but Stroll CLEARLY didn't change line - Vettel did. The one who cut across was Vettel.

and Stroll had little option to move - whereas Vettel did - it's not racing, it's coming to the finish - why get all racy?

F1Oz

I think Lotus has put the qualifying well into perspective - when there is .1 or less of a second difference - it's pretty much even. If we look at Malaysia - others have done the analysis - but on the wet side of the track (without illegal drying) - that makes it significantly more difficult for Da...

F1Oz

From limited vision at time of race - seemed to be Stroll's fault - but with new vision - it seems Vettell's - why did he cut across Stroll - who could do little other than perhaps take the tightest of lines - but on an in lap - why did he need to - and why didn't Seb just go a bit wider? Still bizz...

F1Oz

It would have been interesting if Dan had got ahead of Bottas at start and been on Max's tail

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How does Hamilton end up 18 secs ahead of Dan when they were previously 4 secs apart?

F1Oz

Vettel clearly

F1Oz

Dan, Max and Kimi still in hunt for pole

F1Oz

For me? Alonso . He's just relentless, consistently one of the best starters on the grid, one of the best wheel-to-wheel racers, best hard-chargers, best attackers, best defenders. He's the complete package. Aside from his 2007 shenanigans, I always saw this in him and admired him, but his 2012 sea...

F1Oz

Lewis is a great driver - but not IMO the greatest - that accolade is still with others. He's benefitted from having dominant cars, couldn't beat Nico last year (and while there was some bad luck for him, I just don't rate NR as highly as others who've driven over the last 20 years) While I have iss...

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