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^^ Yeah but what about Nico's points loss. Had they known that Lewis was not going to budge, they wouldnt have let Nico fall behind Lewis at all? Thats what I have a problem with - its not just about two wrongs or even an eye for an eye !! MAke up for his points loss and I am cool I guess the probl...

F1yer

Puzzled by this remark, why not? A 3 stopper always requires a driver to do some overtaking on-track, what's wrong with having to overtake your teammate like any other car? Not in Hungary ... NOT at Merc ... NOT when you are using different strategies - you are definitely NOT supposed to overtake y...

F1yer

It's been repetitively explained to you what happened that day. You choose to ignore the facts and just bring up rubbish in yet another thread. Merc should leave team orders alone . They've tried to impose them once this season and seen that they can't even get that right. Merc didn't cost Rosberg ...

F1yer

It's been repetitively explained to you what happened that day. You choose to ignore the facts and just bring up rubbish in yet another thread. Merc should leave team orders alone . They've tried to impose them once this season and seen that they can't even get that right. Merc didn't cost Rosberg ...

F1yer

^^ When one runs out of arguments - they often resort to such response!

Totally cool !

F1yer

You pretty much lost the argument with the suggestion that Lewis chooses his own strategy. Your slapping analogy doesnt work. As we have seen from Wolff, Lauda and now Zetsche the circumstances of Hungary should not have triggered a TO. And Lewis was deemed by the team to be correct in ignoring it....

F1yer

^^ Yeah but what about Nico's points loss.
Had they known that Lewis was not going to budge, they wouldnt have let Nico fall behind Lewis at all?

Thats what I have a problem with - its not just about two wrongs or even an eye for an eye !!

MAke up for his points loss and I am cool

F1yer

Oh thats so sweet. After Lewis disobeys the TO and causes Rosberg to lose points - now the TOs will be allowed and adhered to. Is Rosberg a total fool and going along with the ride Merc built for him. How about making good the 6 points difference and then adopt the policy of equality. This way it l...

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Hopefully this stays rather mature and not degrade into a Vettel bashing I think it depends on the car. Vettel was very very good with the previous style of car. If they were teammates in the Red Bulls of the previous four years. I think Vettel would have beaten him. In 2011 and 2013 certainly, tho...

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Someone mentioned the McLaren was better at Austin than the RBR in 2012. That isn't the case. That drive of Hamiltons is my second favourite from him. He was just on absolute song. 2012 was Hamiltons strongest year I still think he was on a par with Alonso that season and both better than Vettel an...

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WHy does the site has debug output at the top (and fairly odd output as if deliberately copy pasted).

F1yer

Oh thats so sweet. After Lewis disobeys the TO and causes Rosberg to lose points - now the TOs will be allowed and adhered to. Is Rosberg a total fool and going along with the ride Merc built for him. How about making good the 6 points difference and then adopt the policy of equality. This way it lo...

F1yer

I would say YES ..
I m 99% sure that Ferrari will come up with a much better car next year with Kimi's input!

Shame that he would be gone by then

F1yer

Supply and demand. There is one Adrian Newey or maybe 3/4 designers in the entire world of that level. Prices go sky high. Bankers, there are thousands in each country, completely incomparable. A better example would be football, the top 5-10 players in the world earn millions per year. Drop down o...

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He "blew" Canada quali? Qualifying second, less than a tenth from pole. No he did not blow it. The same people will tell you that Rosberg is more than a match for Lewis. You can't have it both ways if you bash Lewis when Rosberg beats him by less than a tenth. He blew Austria qualifying, more than ...

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your comparing newey to a banker who's job requires simply book smarts and experience. any chief designers job is to be a creative thinker and problem solver these traits are much harder to come by. Well you can argue. I gave Newey a lot of Bonus Potential - more than any Banker would hope to bag -...

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Top Banking brains do not get more than £1M in base Sal. I would put Newey around £700k + Performance bonus of £5K for each point scored. your comparing newey to a banker who's job requires simply book smarts and experience. any chief designers job is to be a creative thinker and problem solver the...

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And the prime minister only gets around 130k. You can't really compare salaries between industries. Why not? See the economics work the same way as any other - demand and supply. (except in politics where NOT everyone in the labor pool are available for PM - they need to be elected) The top brains ...

F1yer

Top Banking brains do not get more than £1M in base Sal.
I would put Newey around £700k + Performance bonus of £5K for each point scored.

F1yer

pokerman wrote: You have to remember that Rosberg had track position before his pitstop, however i don't think that Mercedes thought Hamilton would get the overcut, they didn't expect him to pass both Vettel and Vergne.

Good to see that rationale Ham fans arent extinct

F1yer

infi24r wrote: Vettel has lost no more points this year, if anything he's lost less.

There in lies the similarity

F1yer

The marshals don't have to start clearing the track until all the cars are controlled behind the safety car. There is no reason why there would be extra risk. the whole point of the safety car is to allow t hose marshals access to the track to clear something that is in a hazardous position so now ...

F1yer

The whole point of the races is that we chose a worthy winner. You might as well have a roullette chosing the WDC / WCC and not risk anything at all (marshalls or drivers) which is what this farce is akin to. funny I thought we found a worthy winner you see it's not the why who leads the race into ...

F1yer

The marshals don't have to start clearing the track until all the cars are controlled behind the safety car. There is no reason why there would be extra risk. the whole point of the safety car is to allow t hose marshals access to the track to clear something that is in a hazardous position so now ...

F1yer

How would others have felt if the roles were reversed and Rosberg was expected to effectively gift Hamilton 6 points in the championship fight. Th is is what they were asking. Though probably more like 9 points based on how quickly Riciardo got pass on fresh tyres. It was not a gift at the time bec...

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Ryu28 wrote:
slide wrote:they should have ok'd it with nico first
Yes it does appear the race director simply deployed the SC without any consideration on how it would affect Rosberg's race.

And that is the wrong way to do it.

They need to ensure that the SC causes the least amount of distortion.

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Lap From To Message 47 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton OK Lewis. Gap to Nico one second. He’s on the [soft] tyre. He has one more stop, so don’t hold him up. 48 Lewis Hamilton Peter Bonnington I can’t imagine these tyres lasting another 20 laps. 48 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton So the softs did a...

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Enjoy the moment. He is liked because he is new. If he starts fighting for a title and thus become threat to drivers with established fanbase, people will find a reason to hate him. Look what happened to Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel and now even Rosberg. I like him a lot, but I am reminded of how much ...

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I m pleasantly surprised that people are rating the guy as the best find and a potential top driver & WDC My cynical self would have imagined - the traditional fanbases rubbishing his acheivements by saying that he is an average joe in a car that is "NOT BAD" in order to further peddle the story of ...

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Here you go. Argue amongst yourselves. :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cnobJzTfsk Thanks. SO basically he is saying is that the SC did pick him up but was driving slow. I can only speculate - but I think that the SC deltas are managed in such a way that the leaders do not lose position. And tha...

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Finally - someone speaks up. I guess the F1 bosses know how much it can turn into a farce if deployed incorrectly. Hopefully its the job of the race director to ensure that SC deployments are such that leaders do not lose position due to others pitting before them. Someone screwed up I don't get wh...

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I think he just means the safety car was brought out at tgewrong/unlucky/bad time for him. That's what I figured. His English is usually sufficiently good enough to convey clarity and then he goes on to say "and that is not supposed to be the case" perhaps referring to the speed of the safety car? ...

F1yer

Does anyone here feel cheated out of the possibility of seeing the first ever drive from the pitlane to the top step of the podium? Had Mercedes put Lewis on option tires for two final stints instead of one 32 lap stint on the far slower prime tire, there was a distinct chance that he could have wo...

F1yer

Finally - someone speaks up. I guess the F1 bosses know how much it can turn into a farce if deployed incorrectly. Hopefully its the job of the race director to ensure that SC deployments are such that leaders do not lose position due to others pitting before them. Someone screwed up I don't get wh...

F1yer

Pedrosa_4_Ever wrote:What goes around, comes around. He got lucky with an SC in Bahrain (and then failed to capitalise on it), lost out on Sunday.

Did the leader lose his track position at Bahrain? Nico went from 1st to 7th or so

F1yer

Finally - someone speaks up.

I guess the F1 bosses know how much it can turn into a farce if deployed incorrectly.
Hopefully its the job of the race director to ensure that SC deployments are such that leaders do not lose position due to others pitting before them.

Someone screwed up

F1yer

See the problem is very simple. People do not read what is written, rather argue on what they think the poster has written. Anyway - I did watch the race albeit on a jerky stream but enough to follow the strategies and change of positions. If you guys want to debate the issue with an open mind - I ...

F1yer

Answer me one question. What would have been best for Merc. Hamilton moving out of the way. Rosberg winning. Merc getting a 1-4 Pitting both of them Hamilton winning. Merc getting a 1-2. In my opinion Merc made the wrong call because the later would have benefitted them more. This is tangential. I ...

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But the safety car rules were fine in Bahrain so why all of a sudden do they now need to be fixed?... In Bahrain - no body won the SC Jackpot ....thats why !! SC in Bahrain was a normal occurance. Still a lottery for people at the back - AVG Lottery payout $1M SC at Hungary was a special occurance ...

F1yer

See the problem is very simple. People do not read what is written, rather argue on what they think the poster has written. Anyway - I did watch the race albeit on a jerky stream but enough to follow the strategies and change of positions. If you guys want to debate the issue with an open mind - I a...

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