In the dry it looks like Mercedes > Ferrari > Red Bull but it's very close (within 0.4 seconds).
In the wet, who knows.
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- Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:21 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2016 Official Canadian Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 112
- Views: 15858
- Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:45 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2016 Canadian Practice Thread
- Replies: 80
- Views: 13080
Re: 2016 Canadian Practice Thread
What tyres did Vettel do his 13.9 on? And what tyres did Lewis do his 14.3 on?
- Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:06 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
About Prost's years in a dominant car: in two of those years he had the best qualifier of all time for a teammate, so of course he wasn't going to get very many poles. In the other two he outqualified his teammates 87% of the time, a greater margin than Hamilton has ever achieved; the best Hamilton...
- Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:21 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
The general consensus is Schumacher was better than Prost, when did people put Michael above Prost? I can't remember when I did this but I am guessing some time around 2003 or maybe around 2001. What does a driver have to do to go ahead of Prost? Who is generally the lowest ranked of the top 5 of a...
- Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:22 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
You are welcome to have your view of Hamilton's skill/rank, it is your right. However, it is also my right to have my viewpoint... based on my experiences. Having followed F1 for nearly 50 years, I have a quite a lot of racing to consider when I form an opinion. While you may summarily dismiss my o...
- Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:11 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
Hamilton may well have a claim to top 10, but personally I don't think so. As Blake said, he's not even unequivocally the best driver out there today, so why would he be a shoe-in for top 10 G.O.A.T? I would put both Alonso and Vettel above Lewis today. I'd put Lewis on a par with Mansell. In fact,...
- Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:20 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
You are kidding me if you don't think that Hamilton is a top 10 great. Hamilton is almost never off the pace, consistently fast around every type of circuit and condition, and equally fast in both one lap and a race distance. These are all qualities which cannot be ascribed to Prost, who's speed was...
- Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:58 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: TV viewership increases 17.9% in Canada
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4128
Re: TV viewership increases 17.9% in Canada
The magic of free-air television.
Here in Canada we get FP2, Qualifying, and the Race for free. TSN comes with cable. This year they have also began to show pre race and post race coverage from Sky, something which may boost the numbers even more.
Here in Canada we get FP2, Qualifying, and the Race for free. TSN comes with cable. This year they have also began to show pre race and post race coverage from Sky, something which may boost the numbers even more.
- Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:32 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
All I will say is that, IMO, Senna was the first ever "modern driver". A driver who began go-karting before he could read, was 100% dedicated to his profession, and was physically extremely fit. That's why he looked like such a freak of nature in the 1980's. Senna's skill was not parallel with the e...
- Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
By proxy, are you suggesting Senna had skill nonpareil in his era, and is an equal of current greats regarding skill. Further, that Prost isn't quite up to modern day standards? I don't think it's what you're suggesting, but supposing it is;. You nailed it, that was exactly what I was about to post...
- Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:51 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
He was that much slower than Senna. Not all his team mates. Any evidence to suggest Senna wouldn't have a similar margin to Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel etc? I don't think we know. We can only really judge drivers on how they fair against their competitors. Not just Senna. He was also slower than Arnou...
- Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:19 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
Today's top drivers begin karting at the age of 5-8, they are physically in excellent shape, and it is a rarity for them to be more than a few tenths off the pace. Prost began karting at the age of 15, he was not physically very fit, and it was not uncommon for him to be 1 second/lap slower than his...
- Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The longest a WDC has stayed in F1 w/out winning another WDC
- Replies: 19
- Views: 4583
Re: The longest a WDC has stayed in F1 w/out winning another
To be honest, I kind of wish that Alonso had retired at the end of 2014. His reputation was sky high at that point after trashing Raikkonen and doing stunning things with the F14T. The past ~25 races have done absolutely nothing for him nor his legacy.
- Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:54 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
Rosberg has been a lot lot closer in 2014 and 2015 to Hamilton than Prost ever was to Senna. It's things like this that make me believe that today's drivers are simply much better than the drivers of 30 years ago. Prost is seen as a legend, whereas Rosberg is seen as just another good driver. Yet, ...
- Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:31 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
Football fans are a lot less fun to chat with or having around you when their favorite team loses. Besides do you ever see F1 fans breaking down stuff when their favorite driver didn't win? Yeah, football fans are comically overemotional. What does that have to do with my initial point? They (footb...
- Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
Tier 1:
Fangio
Ascari
Clark
Stewart
Prost
Senna
Schumacher
Hamilton
Vettel
I really want to put Alonso on here too, but I put a lot of emphasis on statistics, and sadly Fernando has made too many unfortunate moves in his career.
Fangio
Ascari
Clark
Stewart
Prost
Senna
Schumacher
Hamilton
Vettel
I really want to put Alonso on here too, but I put a lot of emphasis on statistics, and sadly Fernando has made too many unfortunate moves in his career.
- Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:58 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Greatest Formula 1 driver
- Replies: 565
- Views: 140013
Re: Greatest Formula 1 driver
I have noticed that Formula 1 fans are usually very conservative when discussing who is the greatest of their sport, by contrast football fans tend to be more liberal (although, I'm not sure if "liberal" is the right word to use). On this thread, the usual five suspects that seemingly everyone puts ...
- Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:28 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Records of consecutive years for a driver winning GPs
- Replies: 30
- Views: 5763
Re: Records of consecutive years for a driver winning GPs
Hamilton - 10 (2007-2016)
Vettel - 6 (2008-2013)
Rosberg - 5 (2012-2016)
Alonso - 4 (2005-2008 & 2010-2013)
Button - 4 (2009-2012)
Raikkonen - 3 (2003-2005 & 2007-2009)
Massa - 3 (2006-2008)
Vettel - 6 (2008-2013)
Rosberg - 5 (2012-2016)
Alonso - 4 (2005-2008 & 2010-2013)
Button - 4 (2009-2012)
Raikkonen - 3 (2003-2005 & 2007-2009)
Massa - 3 (2006-2008)
- Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:16 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Define the strengths and weaknesses of Merc/RB/Ferrari cars
- Replies: 56
- Views: 10547
Re: Define the strengths and weaknesses of Merc/RB/Ferrari c
Red Bull looked pretty bloody fast around Monaco for a car which supposedly doesn't have as much mechanical grip as Mercedes.
I think that if the Mercedes chassis is better than Red Bull at anything, it's getting heat into hard tyres.
I think that if the Mercedes chassis is better than Red Bull at anything, it's getting heat into hard tyres.
- Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:53 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: How many races will Mercedes lose?
- Replies: 59
- Views: 9326
Re: How many races will Mercedes lose?
Hamilton is a Hungary specialist, he lost in 2014 because he had a problem in qualifying and had to start from the pit lane, even then that it took a dodgy strategy from Mercedes and an engine losing power near the end of the race to stop him winning. You don't need to tell me how Hungary 2014 went...
- Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:32 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: How many races will Mercedes lose?
- Replies: 59
- Views: 9326
Re: How many races will Mercedes lose?
I do not know why everyone think they will loose in Hungary. Hamilton really screwed it up last year. Because of several reasons: 1. They lost it in both 2014 and 2015. Hungaroring is the only circuit where they have yet to win in this Turbo era. 2. Their pace advantage around Hungary in the last t...
- Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:26 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: How many races will Mercedes lose?
- Replies: 59
- Views: 9326
Re: How many races will Mercedes lose?
4
Spain (already decided)
Hungary
Singapore
A wet race somewhere else
All of them to Red Bull.
Spain (already decided)
Hungary
Singapore
A wet race somewhere else
All of them to Red Bull.
- Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:41 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Are slicks or grooved tyres better visually?
- Replies: 28
- Views: 6469
Re: Are slicks or grooved tyres better visually?
Have you seen them in person? I agree that on TV they can appear like plastic but in person you can see the rubber texture/grain to them. Yes I have seen them in real life. I've also seen grooved tyres in person. The grooved tyres look infinitely superior to the slicks, especially on TV but also in...
- Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:01 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Are slicks or grooved tyres better visually?
- Replies: 28
- Views: 6469
Re: Are slicks or grooved tyres better visually?
Grooved tyres by far. Slicks look like the are made out of plastic. The Michelin/Bridgestone grooves looked like proper racing tyres.
- Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:59 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Present your ideal scoring system for Formula 1
- Replies: 55
- Views: 12117
Re: Present your ideal scoring system for Formula 1
I preferred it when there were 10 points for the win. 25 points feels too impersonal. I don't know why, but for some reason I can relate to double-digit points hauls more than triple digit ones (sounds stupid I know).
- Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:43 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Will Hülkenberg ever get a podium? - Bumped x2
- Replies: 63
- Views: 16679
Re: Will Hülkenberg ever get a podium? - Bumped
Sauber was solid in Australia, lightning in Malaysia, solid in China, and nowhere in Bahrain. In the European season it was quick in Spain, impossible to judge at Monaco, very quick in Canada, quick in Valencia, quick prior to crash in Silverstone, and lightning in Hockenheim. It was slow in Hungary...
- Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:34 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Rankings by race points system applied to season-end rank
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4804
Re: Rankings by race points system applied to season-end ran
Fangio:
1950: 2nd
1951: 1st
1953: 2nd
1954: 1st
1955: 1st
1956: 1st
1957: 1st
That's 161 points in 7 seasons, averaging 23 points per season.
1950: 2nd
1951: 1st
1953: 2nd
1954: 1st
1955: 1st
1956: 1st
1957: 1st
That's 161 points in 7 seasons, averaging 23 points per season.
- Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:52 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Daniel Screwed out of Two Wins on the Trot
- Replies: 119
- Views: 22137
Re: Daniel Screwed out of Two Wins on the Trot
"I'm 27 very soon and I don't even have anything close to a world title and I believe I should have something like that very soon." http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24239/10300228/daniel-ricciardo-feels-he-should-be-getting-more-rewarded-in-f1-results Interesting that Ric thinks this way. He clearly...
- Tue May 31, 2016 4:53 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Define the strengths and weaknesses of Merc/RB/Ferrari cars
- Replies: 56
- Views: 10547
Re: Define the strengths and weaknesses of Merc/RB/Ferrari c
I often feel that Mercedes is sensitive to temperatures and tyre pressures, more so than Red Bull. Singapore 2015 was an extreme case of this, but I can think of some other (not so obvious) cases. That is the only weakness I can think of this car. Red Bull's only visible weakness is lack of engine p...
- Tue May 31, 2016 12:20 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Has Raikkonen equalled Vettel so far this year?(2016Austria)
- Replies: 89
- Views: 15748
Re: Has Raikkonen equalled Vettel so far this year?(2016 Mon
Vettel should have won in Australia if not for strategy and Raikkonen should've finished that race third, as that's where he was before his car failed. Vettel never had a chance to compete in Bahrain. A racing incident in China cost Kimi some points. Vettel got a gearbox penalty and was subsequently...
- Mon May 30, 2016 3:43 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Rosberg' wet weather driving
- Replies: 63
- Views: 15631
Re: Rosberg' wet weather driving
I'm still furious and haven't got over Webber taking him out at Korea 2010 yet. In his first 1.5 laps in that race, he overtook Hamilton, pulled away from Hamilton, and was catching Alonso. That race had all the potential to be something really special but Webber just ruined it.
- Mon May 30, 2016 1:49 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hulk vs. Perez 2016
- Replies: 69
- Views: 15626
Re: Hulk vs. Perez 2016
6 podiums is no longer luck or merely a coincidence. Perez is just really good at picking up the pieces in chaotic races. It should have been 7 podiums as he was running 2nd in Canada 2014 before his brake problems. Hulkenberg by contrast just lacks that little bit extra. I don't know whether it is ...
- Mon May 30, 2016 12:13 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Daniel Screwed out of Two Wins on the Trot
- Replies: 119
- Views: 22137
Re: Daniel Screwed out of Two Wins on the Trot
Danny Ric will win races this season for sure. He's such an entertaining to watch yet terrifyingly fast driver. On the podium today, Lewis said that Ricciardo is one of the best drivers he's ever raced against. Alonso has also said something of similar lines. They know just how good he is, in this t...
- Mon May 30, 2016 12:08 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Rosberg' wet weather driving
- Replies: 63
- Views: 15631
Re: Rosberg' wet weather driving
Nah, I've seen him excel in the wet plenty of times. Malaysia 2010, China 2010, Belgium 2010, Korea 2010, Belgium 2013, Brazil 2013, Hungary 2014 (opening stint), Belgium 2014, Silverstone 2015 and USA 2015 are all examples of that. Today he was shocking though, for one reason or another; easily his...
- Sun May 29, 2016 9:03 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2016 Monaco GP Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 178
- Views: 28982
Re: 2016 Monaco GP Qualifying Thread
Hamiltons tyres went by the middle sector, his S2 and S3 were slower than the lap he did in Q2. Hamiltons strong sectors are S2 and S3 compared to Nico, in 2013 and 2014 Nico was faster in S1 only and got pole from that. Hamilton was poor going into turn 1. Today he was 0.150 up on Nico in S1. Fals...
- Sun May 29, 2016 6:58 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: McLaren Chassis
- Replies: 403
- Views: 68518
Re: McLaren Chassis
Autosport ranks the best chassis http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124354/ranking-the-f1-chassis-after-barcelona 1. Red Bull RB12 2. Mercedes W07 3. Ferrari SF16-H 4. McLaren MP4-31 5. Toro Rosso STR11 6. Williams FW38 7. Force India VJM09 8. Renault RS16 9. Haas VF-16 10. Sauber C35 11. ...
- Sun May 29, 2016 6:24 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is most of the top talent tied up in Mercedes and Red Bull?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3275
Re: Is most of the top talent tied up in Mercedes and Red Bu
Newey's been the top guy for more than 2 decades, if my math is correct. He was a top designer when he was 20 years younger than he is today. But I can't think of another name today who's that age and is anywhere near as good as him. People are underestimating just how much of an impact Paddy Lowe ...
- Sat May 28, 2016 3:04 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2016 Monaco GP Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 178
- Views: 28982
Re: 2016 Monaco GP Qualifying Thread
Hamilton's tyres were sub optimal by the time he really pushed. All of Hamilton's laps prior to his hot lap were banker laps where he was merely pacing himself. Likewise everyone has been commenting about how well the Ultra Soft tyres last around here. I highly doubt that he took anything more than...
- Sat May 28, 2016 3:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Monaco, tyre strategy and Ricciardo
- Replies: 36
- Views: 7614
Re: Monaco, tyre strategy and Ricciardo
Does Ricciardo not have one set of softs available? Could he not use that as his prime stint tyre to cover off the Mercedes guys, or has he already used that set in practice?
- Sat May 28, 2016 2:05 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2016 Monaco GP Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 178
- Views: 28982
Re: 2016 Monaco GP Qualifying Thread
Just like Rosberg was faster than Hamilton all weekend in Spain.kleefton wrote: he was faster than Rosberg all weekend
As for your argument about tyres, see above.