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Fiki

This has been happening for a long time and the only fix I see is to either allow development or put BOP in place (balance of power) Until then IMSA and WEC is where the best racing taking place F1 is nothing but WWE Max will be champ till a formula change then the next 4 or 5 year champ will move ...

Fiki

Sainz, Norris and Perez, not necessarily in that order, though I enjoyed Sainz's efforts very much indeed. Care to explain the Perez one? Perez did a very good job, and I found judging others difficult watching only the world feed. I did have the live timing to look at from time to time and he did ...

Fiki

Sainz, Norris and Perez, not necessarily in that order, though I enjoyed Sainz's efforts very much indeed.

Fiki

Marko did say Perez wasn't struggling in the final stint. It was Perez's intent to not push too much & too hard as he had to maintain those softs for 20 laps. He did just enough to maintain about a three second gap so as to not let Sainz come in DRS position & also not push unnecessarily. I'm sure ...

Fiki

The report from the Warren Commission was published in full. That did not stop conspiracy theories and it may well have fuelled them. I agree, the Warren Commission didn't do a good job and was prejudiced by the FBI and the Executive Branch. The conspiracy theories were in response to a transparent...

Fiki

1762795352829161605 Not wanting to blow my own trumpet (OK, that's a lie) but this is basically what I was saying Mercedes attitude should be and why they may only offer Hamilton a year contract. I thought it would be for them to perhaps keep Leclerc or Norris as an option though rather than priori...

Fiki

1762795352829161605 Not wanting to blow my own trumpet (OK, that's a lie) but this is basically what I was saying Mercedes attitude should be and why they may only offer Hamilton a year contract. I thought it would be for them to perhaps keep Leclerc or Norris as an option though rather than priori...

Fiki

Nope... There would have been nothing questionable if Lewis wins behind the SC about fairness as you put it. Rules are clear, all cars must be unlapped, how could you complain that why the RD didnt remove just the cars between Lewis and Max for the sake of fairness, then dont wait until they reach ...

Fiki

No because Mercedes fans can show that how the race was conducted wasnt legal. If the race finished behind SC all you have is that you wanted to see Max win, thats not enough for claiming it is unfair that the regulations werent bended to make him win. Tomato, tomato... Nope... There would have bee...

Fiki

I disagree with your statement that the recent ICA has removed the 15.3 overriding authority as an argument. That case revolved around a mistake made by the GT race director, with her defence trying to explain that away claiming it was covered by the overriding authority. That was unwarranted, but ...

Fiki

Brutknort wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:30 pm
Why is the last lap different from the 6 laps under SC before it ?

Fiki

I disagree with your statement that the recent ICA has removed the 15.3 overriding authority as an argument. That case revolved around a mistake made by the GT race director, with her defence trying to explain that away claiming it was covered by the overriding authority. That was unwarranted, but ...

Fiki

The regulations don't state what you are claiming; there is no necessary end to the matter if that particular message isn't sent, other than to remove the requirement for all lapped cars to overtake, and for the SC to take an additional lap before coming in. Nowhere in that regulation is it stated ...

Fiki

Brutknort wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:00 am
I wowuld bet you were first claiming that any doesnt mean all, or the overriding authority too) which shows you just want to read into the rules that it was legal no matter what.

Be careful when betting, Brutknort.

Fiki

From the driver perspective none. From the RD being the cause of that signal, 48.12 would be the problem because that mechanism was not followed which means the RD did not correctly make use of exception b) in 48.8 and the RD has no ability to control the other exceptions directly. That is to say e...

Fiki

^ Moreover, done in a way that was contrary to the way the rules are written/had ever been interpreted before. Merc made their decision not to pit for fresh tyres based on those rules. I don't think anyone genuinely believes what happened was right or fair. I think those that continue to defend it ...

Fiki

^ Moreover, done in a way that was contrary to the way the rules are written/had ever been interpreted before. Merc made their decision not to pit for fresh tyres based on those rules. I don't think anyone genuinely believes what happened was right or fair. I think those that continue to defend it ...

Fiki

Writing on phone so it is considerably harder to format neatly. 48.8 imposes the restriction since it points directly to article 48.12 if you want to allow cars to pass the safety car to unlap in exception B. The only allowed mechanism to unlap cars during a SC is via 48.12, there is no other allow...

Fiki

^ Moreover, done in a way that was contrary to the way the rules are written/had ever been interpreted before. Merc made their decision not to pit for fresh tyres based on those rules. I don't think anyone genuinely believes what happened was right or fair. I think those that continue to defend it ...

Fiki

Unfortunately while that means the drivers who overtook were not in breach of 48.8 under exclusion a) it does not absolve Masi of the same because the only way for Masi to inform the drivers to overtake is via exclusion b) "b) Under Articles 41.1c), 48.12, 51.6 and 51.12 below.". This means to acti...

Fiki

Of course I think it was fair to restart the race after the SC, and especially so in this case; there was a race win and a championship to be decided, and it was correctly left to the drivers to decide it. Really? Why is it fair for Max to have the cars between him and Lewis removed so he can race ...

Fiki

The argument made was Article 13.4 of the 2023 GT Open International sporting regs is exactly the same as Article 15.3 of the 2021 F1 sporting regs. The ICA disagreed It means the 'overriding authority' of article 15.3 of the 2021 F1 Sporting Regs cannot be used to do something outside of the rules...

Fiki

"To my mind, getting all the lapped cars to unlap for no other purpose than to make a final racing lap impossible, is hard to pass off as falling under the category of sporting fairness." Your mind is very interesting because you think sporting fairness would be to remove Hamilton's 10+ seconds adv...

Fiki

The argument made was Article 13.4 of the 2023 GT Open International sporting regs is exactly the same as Article 15.3 of the 2021 F1 sporting regs. The ICA disagreed It means the 'overriding authority' of article 15.3 of the 2021 F1 Sporting Regs cannot be used to do something outside of the rules...

Fiki

It certainly puts pay to the idea that the "overriding authority" allowed Masi to do what he did as Fiki would argue. Perhaps this is why it Masi was removed from the role after all rather than any kind of Mercedes appeasement plan That remains to be seen. If the defence of the race cirector in the...

Fiki

It certainly puts pay to the idea that the "overriding authority" allowed Masi to do what he did as Fiki would argue. Perhaps this is why it Masi was removed from the role after all rather than any kind of Mercedes appeasement plan That remains to be seen. If the defence of the race cirector in the...

Fiki

An end to futilities. I'd like you to see this: "On this point, the Court rejects the Appellant’s submissions according to which the Race Director did not commit a breach of the Regulations and the Code, but simply used her “overriding authority” to apply the rules on the Safety Car according to th...

Fiki

Certainly! It appears our conversational compass has led us to the crossroads of diverse perspectives. Let's amicably acknowledge the divergence and part ways, akin to two wayward tumbleweeds embarking on their independent journeys through the vast expanse of discourse. An end to futilities. I'd li...

Fiki

An end to futilities. I'd like you to see this: "On this point, the Court rejects the Appellant’s submissions according to which the Race Director did not commit a breach of the Regulations and the Code, but simply used her “overriding authority” to apply the rules on the Safety Car according to th...

Fiki

Your are welcome at any time to use my very own expressions of course. Perhaps now would be a good time to agree to disagree since our discussion has become akin to stump speeches at some godforsaken place in the middle of nowhere. Certainly! It appears our conversational compass has led us to the ...

Fiki

That isn't the argument I'm making. I've already stated that, in the context of the unlapping cars portion of the (2021) regulations, my personal interpretation of 'any' would be 'all' - but others (and that might include a court) may interpret it differently. I'm arguing that 'any' vs 'all' is not...

Fiki

'Any' and 'all' are not akin to 'black' and 'white.' Replace 'any' with 'none' and you have a genuine comparison. https://www.michbar.org/file/generalinfo/plainenglish/pdfs/91_oct.pdf In a later case, the Michigan Supreme Court again held that the use of "any" in an agency contract meant "all ." In...

Fiki

you are making the strawman fallacy. this is what is stated by me: "no, I am using the fact that you happily disregard what stewards has to say if you dont like it." I am also stating you're not denying it prooves it is true. I didn't study the regulations, after the FIA report, because I liked wha...

Fiki

the fact you dont deny it speaks for itself. I see no need to react to such tactics; It's common enough knowledge I don't have a favourite driver. you are making the strawman fallacy. this is what is stated by me: "no, I am using the fact that you happily disregard what stewards has to say if you d...

Fiki

ChapmanBaxter wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:39 pm
Jesus Christ you lot are boring Still harping on about 2021.

Wait till we re-open the discussion on Silverstone!

Fiki

no, I am using the fact that you happily disregard what stewards has to say if you dont like it. By assuming an imaginary favourite driver of mine would make me view things differently... Brutknort it's not even a nice try the fact you dont deny it speaks for itself. I see no need to react to such ...

Fiki

edit: I might add I saw others telling you if your favourite driver was on the shorter end of the stick you happily claimed the stewards wrong. I think I could surely find you arguing against a stewards decision on this forum, so which one it is Fiki? Stewards are always right, or they are only rig...

Fiki

edit: I might add I saw others telling you if your favourite driver was on the shorter end of the stick you happily claimed the stewards wrong. I think I could surely find you arguing against a stewards decision on this forum, so which one it is Fiki? Stewards are always right, or they are only rig...

Fiki

edit: I might add I saw others telling you if your favourite driver was on the shorter end of the stick you happily claimed the stewards wrong. I think I could surely find you arguing against a stewards decision on this forum, so which one it is Fiki? Stewards are always right, or they are only rig...

Fiki

"Supreme authority means that only the interpretation given by the stewards is valid in a dispute" Britannica Dictionary definition of AUTHORITY. 1. [noncount] : the power to give orders or make decisions : the power or right to direct or control someone or something. I propose lets not mix authori...

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