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by Paolo_Lasardi
Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:58 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

Again, I agree - Verstappen's behaviour was worse and he should have been black-flagged for Saudi imo. Doesn't change the fact that he was the better driver that season - Lewis had shockers in Imola and Monaco and relied on a lot of good fortune to be in title contention. And again, would be nice i...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:55 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

I don't. And neither do I consider crashing someone out of a high-speed corner and celebrating to be good driving or sportsmanship... 8) Now that answers your 2021 questions, please let's get back to topic. A racing incident with one driver at fault vs deliberately driving-off other drivers and, pa...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Junior Series
Replies: 238
Views: 8398

Re: 2024 Junior Series

Moving on, My picks for the title are Martins and Marti. I was surprised that Marti didn't end up in F2 this season already. I really rate Martins. He's got the speed just needs to calm down a bit. Unfortunately I really don't see a route for him to get into F1 unless either Gasly or Ocon decide to...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: So... who replaces Lewis at Mercedes?
Replies: 285
Views: 14774

Re: So... who replaces Lewis at Mercedes?

I still think Verstappen will make a shock move to Mercedes, maybe rather for 2026 than for 2025, though.

And I do think that Alonso will finally retire within the next 2-3 years.
by Paolo_Lasardi
Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:26 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

We seem to be discussing (and conflating) two different variables here - and it often leads to confusion. One variable is age from a basic (non-experiential) musculature and neurologic point of view. The other is learned "muscle memory" from experience gained along the way. Whew both exist, one is ...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

I must admit on the face of it I would have disregarded this theory but when you look at examples you make a hell of a good case for it. On the other hand, most of the named drivers either started karting at a similar age or the one "debuting" better also had the higher "racing age". Verstappen is ...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Junior Series
Replies: 238
Views: 8398

Re: 2024 Junior Series

How could I know? That's kind of the point. And you don't know either. As I said, it's now much harder for drivers to show that they are good enough. There are plenty of drivers who have missed out with the equivalent CV of many established F1 drivers. What we do know is that the quality of drivers...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

I would put forward Button as another example of someone who stepped up massively between 20 and 22/23/24 Rosberg and Hamilton both made their F1 debut after winning GP2, both had unlimited testing, so you’d expect both to start around the same point. But Hamilton 2007 was INFINITELY better than Ro...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

Sebastian Vettel is another interesting case study for the whole “racing age” argument. Vettel was outqualified 4-3 by Liuzzi in 2007, even though Vettel had been testing F1 cars since 2005, in the days of unlimited testing. According to Mario Theissen, he was slower than Heidfeld and Kubica, which...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

The entire argument that Perez isn’t good is based on his record against Verstappen, as his record against anyone else is more than respectable, including Button. It’s circular reasoning. Interestingly enough, Gasly suffered from the same fate, and many “experts” on this forum predicted that Ocon w...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

Regardless of the outcome I would say Verstappen was the better driver that season. The endless harping on about AD or Silverstone is irritating noise to anyone but the ultras (and off-topic for the thread, for the 13638th time). If you include driving other drivers far off the track and brake-test...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Junior Series
Replies: 238
Views: 8398

Re: 2024 Junior Series

I don't understand most of this I'm afraid. There are more drivers which Is why I said drivers not driver.. E.G Ocon. Mazepin didn't do that from GP3 but he did from F2, as did Latifi, Zhou etc. Nowadays we see far fewer talented drivers being given their breaks in F1. The percentage to those with ...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

No more or less so than anything else that caused a 14 point swing at any point in the season. It's more critical at season's end like we see how desperate Verstappen started to become, an official's actions defines one driver as being better than the other apparently, Hamilton had the title won. R...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Car Launch Thread
Replies: 17
Views: 729

Re: 2024 Car Launch Thread

The same as any other season where one team dominated, with the exception of 1988 and 1989. Fair enough for you. For me, the second and third consecutive season of the same dominance further reduces the enjoyment - especially so after such an utter dominance like 2023. There is no enjoyment in domi...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:43 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Car Launch Thread
Replies: 17
Views: 729

Re: 2024 Car Launch Thread

It's about the only way I would get any enjoyment out of another Verstappen cruise to the title. And how many races would that enjoyment last ... ? The same as any other season where one team dominated, with the exception of 1988 and 1989. Fair enough for you. For me, the second and third consecuti...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:08 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Car Launch Thread
Replies: 17
Views: 729

Re: 2024 Car Launch Thread

Would be hilarious if this proves to be a winner; the whole grid converges towards the RB19 design and RBR moves to a zero-pod-esque design. I know, as much as I don’t want to see Verstappen walk another title it would be funny :lol: It's about the only way I would get any enjoyment out of another ...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:05 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Car Launch Thread
Replies: 17
Views: 729

Re: 2024 Car Launch Thread

Would be hilarious if this proves to be a winner; the whole grid converges towards the RB19 design and RBR moves to a zero-pod-esque design. I know, as much as I don’t want to see Verstappen walk another title it would be funny :lol: It's about the only way I would get any enjoyment out of another ...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:55 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Car Launch Thread
Replies: 17
Views: 729

Re: 2024 Car Launch Thread

The Red Bull seems to have sidepod openings??? Would be hilarious if this proves to be a winner; the whole grid converges towards the RB19 design and RBR moves to a zero-pod-esque design. I know, as much as I don’t want to see Verstappen walk another title it would be funny :lol: It's about the onl...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:49 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

There was an exception to that - some teenager, no less. Well there were two exceptions really, but i'm comfortable my statement stands despite those anomalies. There's a plethora of evidence available to indicate RB seem to be a team who are unable, or probably more accurately, unwilling, to give ...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:25 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Michael Masi. 1 Year on.
Replies: 2029
Views: 136123

Re: Michael Masi. 1 Year on.

I disagree with your statement that the recent ICA has removed the 15.3 overriding authority as an argument. That case revolved around a mistake made by the GT race director, with her defence trying to explain that away claiming it was covered by the overriding authority. That was unwarranted, but ...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:21 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

That 2nd RB seat has had a certain stigma attached to it going back a decade now & it hasn't got that stigma for no reason. There was an exception to that - some teenager, no less. Well there were two exceptions really, but i'm comfortable my statement stands despite those anomalies. Which is exact...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:11 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

That 2nd RB seat has had a certain stigma attached to it going back a decade now & it hasn't got that stigma for no reason. There was an exception to that - some teenager, no less. Well there were two exceptions really, but i'm comfortable my statement stands despite those anomalies. There's a plet...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:09 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

I don't think that anyhone is ignoring what happened in Abu Dhabi. There again, we're not all pretending that it's the only thing that happened in 2021. It defined who won the title for another person to say that Verstappen beat Hamilton and thus was better, I see a follow up post about Verstappen ...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:07 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

The last paragraph is irrelevant as Bottas >> Perez_2023. The entire argument that Perez isn’t good is based on his record against Verstappen, as his record against anyone else is more than respectable, including Button. It’s circular reasoning. Interestingly enough, Gasly suffered from the same fa...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: PF1 Forum TMW 2024 prediction thread 4: Ferrari and McLaren
Replies: 21
Views: 1596

Re: PF1 Forum TMW 2024 prediction thread 4: Ferrari and McLaren

If that's true I'd argue it highlights a problem for Norris given that he must've made mistakes in 6 out of the last 11 qualifying's of the season (not including sprint qualifying). That's a horrendous record. Did Norris messing up qualifying not become a thing, the pole positions he might have had...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:16 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: PF1 Forum TMW 2024 prediction thread 4: Ferrari and McLaren
Replies: 21
Views: 1596

Re: PF1 Forum TMW 2024 prediction thread 4: Ferrari and McLaren

Stats tell us that Leclerc is faster both in qualifying and the race however WDC points don't always reflect that, Sainz was very close to going 2-1 against Leclerc, a point perhaps relevant to another discussion on the board, however you always have to favour the faster driver and that's Leclerc. ...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

I'm not making up the rules, WDC points are the master. In the context of this discussion how much does Verstappen losing to Ricciardo as a teenager hold him back in your opinion? How many spots higher would be be in your list if that hadn't happened. KingVoid set the parameter of the discussion bu...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

The last paragraph is irrelevant as Bottas >> Perez_2023. The entire argument that Perez isn’t good is based on his record against Verstappen, as his record against anyone else is more than respectable, including Button. It’s circular reasoning. Interestingly enough, Gasly suffered from the same fa...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:50 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

That's fair so I will rephrase; Lewis is guaranteed to be giving up 5+ wins to other drivers, including his teammate. Even with the utterly dominant cars guaranteed to qualify on the front row that he's had over a few seasons he has never managed to stitch together a season as consistent as Verstap...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:48 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

That's fair so I will rephrase; Lewis is guaranteed to be giving up 5+ wins to other drivers, including his teammate. Even with the utterly dominant cars guaranteed to qualify on the front row that he's had over a few seasons he has never managed to stitch together a season as consistent as Verstap...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:43 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: PF1 Forum TMW 2024 prediction thread 4: Ferrari and McLaren
Replies: 21
Views: 1596

Re: PF1 Forum TMW 2024 prediction thread 4: Ferrari and McLaren

I think Norris vs Piastri will be very even with luck being the decisive factor for who is going to win the TMW.
by Paolo_Lasardi
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

Lewis indeed has a great legacy - 7x WDC will do that - but I don't find the argument to put him as the GOAT very convincing. His greatest seasons have been 2007 as a rookie and then 2018 beating Vettel (who we now know was never in the top tier as a driver - Leclerc's arrival at Ferrari quickly sh...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:22 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Junior Series
Replies: 238
Views: 8398

Re: 2024 Junior Series

The present F3 hasn't existed that long just 5 years, so we have 4 champions that have competed in F2, I would say certainly Piastri and Martins showed well, I would say Shwartzman also did well, Hauger is the only one that failed. Thanks but I also mean the predecessor of F3 - Piastri has obviousl...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:48 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

The biggest thing that holds Hamilton back in the list is that throughout his career he has almost always conceded too many higher race finishes or higher grid starts away to his teammates. It might have taken luck for Rosberg and Russell (but not Button) to outscore him but it wasn't luck that all...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:32 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

The biggest thing that holds Hamilton back in the list is that throughout his career he has almost always conceded too many higher race finishes or higher grid starts away to his teammates. It might have taken luck for Rosberg and Russell (but not Button) to outscore him but it wasn't luck that all...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:03 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

The biggest thing that holds Hamilton back in the list is that throughout his career he has almost always conceded too many higher race finishes or higher grid starts away to his teammates. It might have taken luck for Rosberg and Russell (but not Button) to outscore him but it wasn't luck that all...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:00 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

The biggest thing that holds Hamilton back in the list is that throughout his career he has almost always conceded too many higher race finishes or higher grid starts away to his teammates. It might have taken luck for Rosberg and Russell (but not Button) to outscore him but it wasn't luck that all...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

The biggest thing that holds Hamilton back in the list is that throughout his career he has almost always conceded too many higher race finishes or higher grid starts away to his teammates. It might have taken luck for Rosberg and Russell (but not Button) to outscore him but it wasn't luck that all...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Michael Masi. 1 Year on.
Replies: 2029
Views: 136123

Re: Michael Masi. 1 Year on.

^ Moreover, done in a way that was contrary to the way the rules are written/had ever been interpreted before. Merc made their decision not to pit for fresh tyres based on those rules. I don't think anyone genuinely believes what happened was right or fair. I think those that continue to defend it ...
by Paolo_Lasardi
Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:29 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
Replies: 336
Views: 30078

Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)

The problem is that almost every GOAT contender has at least one serious bullet-hole in their legacy. Schumacher: Jerez 1997, no competitive teammate Senna: Suzuka 1990, probably a ban worthy action. Clark: lost to Moss when he had factory support Hamilton: lost to Button, Rosberg and Russell, none...