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Johnston wrote:FLB how long have you been watching F1.

Back to that argument, are we?

I'll make another argument that at least should make some folks laugh:

Have you watched top gun? Do you want your wing mate to outscore you or support you? Just ask Val Kilmer!

freelittlebirds

Johnston, Well,obviously Lewis hasn't benefited from Jenson's expertise the past 3 years, has he? You could make the case he benefited from Alonson in 2007 and even from Heikki in 2008. We know that Jenson has benefited from Lewis this year. We only know because Lewis and Jenson both have said so. ...

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Johnston, Well,obviously Lewis hasn't benefited from Jenson's expertise the past 3 years, has he? You could make the case he benefited from Alonson in 2007 and even from Heikki in 2008. We know that Jenson has benefited from Lewis this year. We only know because Lewis and Jenson both have said so. ...

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Johnston, Well,obviously Lewis hasn't benefited from Jenson's expertise the past 3 years, has he? You could make the case he benefited from Alonson in 2007 and even from Heikki in 2008. We know that Jenson has benefited from Lewis this year. We only know because Lewis and Jenson both have said so. ...

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Johnston, Well,obviously Lewis hasn't benefited from Jenson's expertise the past 3 years, has he? You could make the case he benefited from Alonson in 2007 and even from Heikki in 2008. How on earth could you possibly know that? Seriously how? You're not present in the technical debriefs after each...

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Johnston, Well,obviously Lewis hasn't benefited from Jenson's expertise the past 3 years, has he? You could make the case he benefited from Alonson in 2007 and even from Heikki in 2008. How on earth could you possibly know that? Seriously how? You're not present in the technical debriefs after each...

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If the drivers are allowed to compete fairly at McLaren, then the setup is a huge part of that competition. It affects the race but I'm sure you have some ridiculous canned argument about that. You didn't see Jenson sharing his setup in Australia now did you? McLaren have been sharing Data all year...

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Even Australia was nothing special as he had super pace over Lewis. Let get this right. He beat you favourite driver fair and square. In the race Lewis had no reply to his times . You know the driver you think is the bestest thing since sliced bread but beating him is nothing special. I guess anyon...

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This year, having a Heikki would not likely have made much of a difference to Hamilton as yet, as although he may not have had Button's slump, so possibly taken points away from Hamilton and his rivals, he'd not likely have had the podiums either, so would have given some points back to Hamilton an...

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The last time it was won from pole was in 2007 by Lewis. However Alonso who was on P1 on the grid in 2009 was leading the race when his pit crew screwed him and failed to fit the tire correctly and the tire flew off and perhaps denied him the win. In 2010, Vettel was P1 on the grid and may have won...

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I hear a lot of stuff here about Jenson when this season Jenson has seemed like he doesn't belong in F1. Even Australia was nothing special as he had super pace over Lewis. At the same time, check out how Hamilton qualified: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/category/2012-f1-season/2012-f1-grids/ You seem...

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[quote="chinki"] This year, having a Heikki would not likely have made much of a difference to Hamilton as yet, as although he may not have had Button's slump, so possibly taken points away from Hamilton and his rivals, he'd not likely have had the podiums either, so would have given some points bac...

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IIRC, the Speed commentators said last year that Hungary is one of the toughest tracks to win from pole. Does anyone know how many times, the pole winner has won?

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I only started watching him last year but I've watched the clips from before. There's no doubt he has grown as a person and as a driver. I also respect the way he's been talking about Massa at a time that must be a nightmare for Massa.

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I hear a lot of stuff here about Jenson when this season Jenson has seemed like he doesn't belong in F1. Even Australia was nothing special as he had super pace over Lewis.

At the same time, check out how Hamilton qualified:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/category/201 ... -f1-grids/

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So even if Jenson beats Lewis, McLaren should still favour Lewis. Its clear your motives behind this thread are completely impartial... :o /thread There is no way Jenson can beat Lewis this year. Because Lewis' scores are not inidicative of his performance this year. Lewis has dominated the grid th...

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So, for the sake of the argument. If Jenson pulls it off and finishes ahead Lewis in the WDC this year, should Hamilton surrender and accept his role as #2, having being beaten by Jenson twice in a row? I mean why are you suggesting they throw JB under the bus to make Lewis look better? Is he not g...

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I loved his race against Rene Arnoux - just absolutely incredible!

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The other 9 I'm guessing are: 1. Schumacher 2. Senna 3. Prost 4. Fangio 5. Clark 6. Lauda 7. Jackie Stewart 8. Vettel 9. J acques Villeneuve? Mario Andretti? Kimi Raikonnen?[/quot e] Ascari will be in there. Have we had Moss yet? And Stewart will be ahead of Lauda. Oops, I forgot Moss. I guess that...

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The other 9 I'm guessing are:
1. Schumacher
2. Senna
3. Prost
4. Fangio
5. Clark
6. Lauda
7. Jackie Stewart
8. Vettel
9. Jacques Villeneuve? Mario Andretti? Kimi Raikonnen?

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Besides, I don't recall anyone clinching the WDC in the last lap of the season through superb skill... Here's some salt for his wounds... "Last corner of the last lap of the last race." That, in the fastest car of the year... Now, i really do think that Lewis is good, but certainly he isn't the "be...

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@BenMC, I never said that it's impossible for Hamilton to win WITHOUT a #2 driver. I just don't think it makes any sense to have to do that. I have also explained how that can happen in the locked topic. Some here have suggested that in 2009, Jenson and Rubens were equal or close. That might be true...

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Surely you would have no argument if that was the case? One exception does not disprove a theory. You don't even have one exception to support it. I believe we've exhausted the knowledge and information that we can extract from this topic. There's no way I'll change some people's minds here and tha...

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Has any team principal referred to a driver ever as a #2 driver? Seriously, you expect Brawn to come out and say that? It's one thing for the public to believe that a driver is a #2 driver but to come out and make it official would be really unconscionable of them and extremely denigrating to the d...

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Well, Lewis is in his sixth year in F1 and has only one title. For a man hailed as the best racing driver ever by a lot of people this is clearly not good enough. I can't really say who could help him to a title....except maybe himself. Is there something in him he needs to change? Probably. He nee...

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JB signed for McLaren to test himself agains the best (Lewis) he's done really well and given him a run for his money, also JB was not the number 1 driver at Brawn - they had equal status (Brawn said he couldn't do it to RB again after having him move aside for MS in the Ferrari years) I disagree p...

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Well, Lewis is in his sixth year in F1 and has only one title. For a man hailed as the best racing driver ever by a lot of people this is clearly not good enough. I can't really say who could help him to a title....except maybe himself. Is there something in him he needs to change? Probably. He nee...

freelittlebirds

Well, Lewis is in his sixth year in F1 and has only one title. For a man hailed as the best racing driver ever by a lot of people this is clearly not good enough. I can't really say who could help him to a title....except maybe himself. Is there something in him he needs to change? Probably. He nee...

freelittlebirds

Well, Lewis is in his sixth year in F1 and has only one title. For a man hailed as the best racing driver ever by a lot of people this is clearly not good enough. I can't really say who could help him to a title....except maybe himself. Is there something in him he needs to change? Probably. He nee...

freelittlebirds

Well, Lewis is in his sixth year in F1 and has only one title. For a man hailed as the best racing driver ever by a lot of people this is clearly not good enough. I can't really say who could help him to a title....except maybe himself. Is there something in him he needs to change? Probably. He nee...

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Good news! According to the article, Martin Whitmarsh is convinced that ... both Hamilton and Button can challenge for the title this season. "We're at the halfway point, we've a lot of racing ahead of us, and they can both do it," Whitmarsh said. http://www.planetf1.com/driver/12433/7929775/Button-...

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Statistically speaking since 2000 (I follow F1 since around then), when was the WDC last won without #1 status? The answer is zero. And that is why even the best driver out there needs a #1 status in his team coz being #1 in a team has massive advantages which cannot be ignored. Erm... Schumacher r...

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Almost 7 out 10 people believe that Button is not the optimal teammate for Hamilton. I'm pretty sure that a healthy percentage of the 30% that voted that Button is the optimal teammate are Button's fans who of course feel he deserves his spot at McLaren. Believe it or not, I would agree with that a...

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Almost 7 out 10 people believe that Button is not the optimal teammate for Hamilton. I'm pretty sure that a healthy percentage of the 30% that voted that Button is the optimal teammate are Button's fans who of course feel he deserves his spot at McLaren. Believe it or not, I would agree with that as...

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Seanie wrote:I wonder how many more accounts FLB is going to open

You have to admit that the OP is hilarious. It comes straight from the heart and it does pack a healthy dose of truth.

You tell them Jimmy! Nobody messes with the Alonso or the Zohan, nobody!!!

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Button is "out of time and space"...Really who takes seriously Jason's Statements???? 1) At the Beggining he said that he didn't count Fernando as contender of WC :lol:(you don't tell this ..He is the AlONSO and FERRARI ..some respect please) 2)He had and has the fastest car and he is 86 points beh...

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I really want Hamilton to go to Ferrari. Just to see that FLB will be posting the same uniformed BS as he is now in 12 months. Infact you could probably find and replace Button with Alonso. At the end of the day. F1, regardless of whether your name is Hamilton, is a team sport. McLaren give their d...

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Just a question FLB, if you don't mind me asking. how old are you and how long have you been watching F1. Not judging or anything, but from your comments you sound like you are very very young (single minded, driven, talk more than listen) and have been in F1 sine 2-3 seasons. I just want to know. ...

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Johnston wrote:
But anyway I'll leave you and FLB to have your The world revolves around Lewis love in .

Thanks Johnston, at least our world is not flat like most Buttons...

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Okay Argentum, How do you thrash Button? You outqualify him? You outscore him? You make the most passes per year? You almost outscore him while driving through the pits in almost every race? You just do like Button and try to bank points to beat your teammate instead of trying to win the race? You ...

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