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- Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:50 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What would you like to see happen in 2013 and/or beyond? ...
- Replies: 40
- Views: 8333
- Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:45 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Sebastian Vettel to McLaren in 2015?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 17659
Re: Sebastian Vettel to McLaren in 2015?
No. Why not? I'm sure McLaren would love Vettel! Surely they would, Whitmarsh has openly said they tried to sign him at the end of 2008, and they will be trying again when he will be moving away from Red Bull. This, any team would bend over backwards to sign a proven multiple WDC, this guy brings h...
- Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:28 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilton
- Replies: 337
- Views: 68002
Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto
I agree. Outright speed isn't everything, it's how you use it. I personally think Vettel utilises his talents better than Hamilton. That's why one has a single World Title and the other three. fully agree. imo vettel is the best driver in f1 right now. you don't win 3 consecutive world titles by lu...
- Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:26 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilton
- Replies: 337
- Views: 68002
Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto
Luca's gone way up in my estimation 8) Well said, although to be fair it does go without saying, Vettel's a proven winner, whereas Hamiltons inconsistency see's him struggle against the likes of Vettel & Alonso, I believe if McLaren had either of those drivers in their team they'd have won the titl...
- Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:55 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilton
- Replies: 337
- Views: 68002
Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto
Luca's gone way up in my estimation 8) Well said, although to be fair it does go without saying, Vettel's a proven winner, whereas Hamiltons inconsistency see's him struggle against the likes of Vettel & Alonso, I believe if McLaren had either of those drivers in their team they'd have won the title...
- Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:34 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
- Replies: 109
- Views: 20290
Re: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
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- Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton playing guitar.
- Replies: 62
- Views: 10923
Re: Hamilton playing guitar.
Very good. Shame usually basher had to come in to bash. Did I bash? Nope I just pointed something out. His timing goes out every time the other guy accompanies him. In my book that means his playing isn't "quite good" . In fact if you are playing with other people it's bloody useless. Timing is kin...
- Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:19 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
- Replies: 109
- Views: 20290
Re: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
stuff I love your blustering return to the topic 10 mins later for a second bite of the cherry, "And another thing!!!" :lol: :lol: This remarkable certainty that Hulkenberg would have won, McLaren finish exactly second and third, Ferrari exactly fourth an.... zzzzz is all baseless speculation to su...
- Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:39 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
- Replies: 109
- Views: 20290
Re: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
They haven't really though. None of the "big 3" are squarely faster than their teammates all the time. They either both achieve similar times at some point throughout the weekend, or trade off on weekends when one has a couple of tenths up on the other. The only time you see the real difference is ...
- Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:34 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
- Replies: 109
- Views: 20290
Re: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
They haven't really though. None of the "big 3" are squarely faster than their teammates all the time. They either both achieve similar times at some point throughout the weekend, or trade off on weekends when one has a couple of tenths up on the other. The only time you see the real difference is ...
- Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:03 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
- Replies: 109
- Views: 20290
Re: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
They haven't really though. None of the "big 3" are squarely faster than their teammates all the time. They either both achieve similar times at some point throughout the weekend, or trade off on weekends when one has a couple of tenths up on the other. The only time you see the real difference is ...
- Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:51 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
- Replies: 109
- Views: 20290
- Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:58 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
- Replies: 109
- Views: 20290
Re: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
You've said the same as the other chap, less the little tirade, I know, it reeked of sour grapes, I said as much in another reply, you've quoted the wrong post I think. Still, thanks for posting the link, sour grapes text in full taken from the video : "..incredible how Sebastian came up from the pi...
- Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:06 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Upcoming TV F1 shows
- Replies: 226
- Views: 373724
Re: Upcoming TV F1 shows
Not an F1 show as such, group B rallying, unfortunately just starting now on BBC4.. (12.00AM 14th December) Should be on iPlayer though for anyone interested : From the producer of Grand Prix: The Killer Years and the Grierson-nominated Deadliest Crash: The 1955 Le Mans Disaster. In the 1980s rallyi...
- Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:36 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso dominates "Driver of the Year" voting by Team Bosses
- Replies: 77
- Views: 13940
Re: Alonso dominates "Driver of the Year" voting by Team Bos
sorry j man.... any ranking on this forum is going to be somewhat out of balance. Hamilton is, has been, and most likely continue to be a forum favorite... hence the difference. That is just the way it is. This poll was of the Team Bosses, not fan based. Team bosses are fans, too. Team bosses don't...
- Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:31 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alonso dominates "Driver of the Year" voting by Team Bosses
- Replies: 77
- Views: 13940
Re: Alonso dominates "Driver of the Year" voting by Team Bos
Spot on.Blake wrote:sorry j man.... any ranking on this forum is going to be somewhat out of balance. Hamilton is, has been, and most likely continue to be a forum favorite... hence the difference. That is just the way it is.
This poll was of the Team Bosses, not fan based.
- Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:20 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who is your motorsport hero?
- Replies: 78
- Views: 12412
Re: Who is your motorsport hero?
John McGuinness, 130MPH average lap speed around the island, mind boggling. Also Joey Dunlop, Phil McCallen and all the TT nutcases to be fair! Saw McCallen clean up in 1996, what a bonkers weekend. Rallying, Juha Kankkunen in the group B Peugeot 205, watched him come through Sutton Park in 1986 as ...
- Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:22 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel not a great yet
- Replies: 100
- Views: 15608
Re: Vettel not a great yet
Newey is great, Red Bull team is great, Vettel is not. Stewart is absolutely right. Vettel since 2009 had dominant cars in, I would say, 80-90 % of races. There are many reports cars were 15-20 kph quicker than the rest in corners, that's unimaginable advantage. It's baffling how he lost in 2009 ha...
- Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:09 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
- Replies: 109
- Views: 20290
Re: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
I believe it was in reference to the Abu Dhabi GP itself, not him being the luckiest driver of the season/in total. I'm not surprised by the way you read into this considering your blind hate for Hamilton. I don't think you can deal with anything related to Hamilton civilly and to be quite honest y...
- Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:36 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
- Replies: 109
- Views: 20290
Re: So now even Lewis has backed Vettel for WDC 2013..
The luckiest driver in F1?? I suppose he'll claim he's the "unluckiest" next.. :uhoh: Reeks of sour grapes, Vettel's one of the best out there and is proving it time and time again with actual results, not excuses, not whining, but actual quantifiable results and it's starting to look like Lewis can...
- Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel not a great yet
- Replies: 100
- Views: 15608
Re: Vettel not a great yet
Poor Mark :lol: Always the biggest loser in bitter anti-Vettel rants It's always the same 3-4 members going on and on with the anti-Vettel rants, you would think they would get tired of it already. ;) I think it's hilarious and currently the best part of the forum. Watching zealots get wound up by ...
- Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:49 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Interesting fact: Sebastian Vettel Top Overtaker in 2012
- Replies: 85
- Views: 18254
Re: Interesting fact: Sebastian Vettel Top Overtaker in 2012
He's been the best overtaker this season and the stats don't lie, anyone saying otherwise is ignoring facts or is bitter (Webber fans usually, the ones who give good Webber fans a bad name) :thumbup: Well said, the 2012 champ kicked proverbial donkey, nasal whining from the naysayers is funny thoug...
- Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:37 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Mclaren Driver PR work..
- Replies: 241
- Views: 52380
Re: Mclaren Driver PR work..
The fact they didn't bow down before almighty Lewis is proof enough that they had a choice... they exercised it. Whether what came out of exercising that choice is something they like/ love is entirely different. I seriously think there's no need to read too much into what happened... as Blake said...
- Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:48 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Quick question: What the heck is this on the Formula 3 car?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 3963
Re: Quick question: What the heck is this on the Formula 3
^^ I was about to query why the intake aperture appeared so small.
- Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:44 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The Official Kimi Räikkonen thread
- Replies: 17474
- Views: 3801863
Re: The Official Kimi Räikkonen thread
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- Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:38 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Mclaren Driver PR work..
- Replies: 241
- Views: 52380
Re: Mclaren Driver PR work..
The fact they didn't bow down before almighty Lewis is proof enough that they had a choice... they exercised it. Whether what came out of exercising that choice is something they like/ love is entirely different. I seriously think there's no need to read too much into what happened... as Blake said...
- Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:37 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Mclaren Driver PR work..
- Replies: 241
- Views: 52380
Re: Mclaren Driver PR work..
The fact they didn't bow down before almighty Lewis is proof enough that they had a choice... they exercised it. Whether what came out of exercising that choice is something they like/ love is entirely different. I seriously think there's no need to read too much into what happened... as Blake said...
- Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:56 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Interesting fact: Sebastian Vettel Top Overtaker in 2012
- Replies: 85
- Views: 18254
Re: Interesting fact: Sebastian Vettel Top Overtaker in 2012
Vettel does not seem to have any flaws. He is the best qualifier I have ever seen, you can always count on him to not make any mistakes in qualifying. He excels when he is under pressure (second half of the 2010 and 2012 season being prime examples). He is an amazing wet weather driver. He can take...
- Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:53 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
- Replies: 163
- Views: 24913
Re: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
Fat Albert wrote: There’s another really important statistic missing, cost, reputedly, over the three years Button cost McLaren Mercedes $30m while Hamilton cost $70m! So Hamilton cost $40m more and scored 15pts less! Anyone with even the minimum understanding of business can understand that the nu...
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:19 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
- Replies: 163
- Views: 24913
Re: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
Bitter and jealous card, ouchMoore wrote: Just ignore him he clearly has a deluded agenda when it comes to anything Lewis Hamilton... He's bitter and more than likely jealous because Lewis Hamilton is a somebody and he is a nobody with a hate filled opinion.
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:17 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
- Replies: 163
- Views: 24913
Re: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
Fat Albert wrote: There’s another really important statistic missing, cost, reputedly, over the three years Button cost McLaren Mercedes $30m while Hamilton cost $70m! So Hamilton cost $40m more and scored 15pts less! Anyone with even the minimum understanding of business can understand that the nu...
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:01 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
- Replies: 163
- Views: 24913
Re: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
Fat Albert wrote: There’s another really important statistic missing, cost, reputedly, over the three years Button cost McLaren Mercedes $30m while Hamilton cost $70m! So Hamilton cost $40m more and scored 15pts less! Anyone with even the minimum understanding of business can understand that the nu...
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:22 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
- Replies: 163
- Views: 24913
Re: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
2011 Button beat Hamilton fairly, as Hamilton made a number of silly mistakes and Button was flawless. 2012 Hamilton has completely thrashed Button and if it wasn't for all the mech problems, and other problems he's had with incidents (Far more than Button) He would be miles ahead of Button and pot...
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:21 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
- Replies: 163
- Views: 24913
Re: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
There’s another really important statistic missing, cost, reputedly, over the three years Button cost McLaren Mercedes $30m while Hamilton cost $70m! So Hamilton cost $40m more and scored 15pts less! Anyone with even the minimum understanding of business can understand that the numbers don’t add up...
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:13 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
- Replies: 163
- Views: 24913
Re: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
LOOOL at all the button fans clinging to the points over 3 seasons. Unless you win the championship, points mean nothing. At the end of the day Lewis beat Jenson in 2 out of 3 seasons, won more races(which according to Ron is more important than finishing 2nd in the contructors) Lewis knows, Jenson...
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:25 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
- Replies: 163
- Views: 24913
Re: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
Hamilton 2 / Button 1 Hamilton Wins. Championship : Overall points: Senna2 657 / No-Grip 672.. :lol: :lol: Ad those 3 dnf where lewis was P1 and leading the race together with Catalunya being disq from Pole position and even then ending up ahead of No grip. Thats about 95 undebateble points this ye...
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:18 pm
- Forum: Hall of Fame
- Topic: Rank The Drivers 2012
- Replies: 248
- Views: 57102
Re: Rate The Drivers 2012
<snip> I started to type something like "sorry if I offended you somehow" but I stopped for the simple reason that it would be total bullshit. I'm not sorry, I don't really know your problem is with this thread, and frankly I don't give a crap. So you know what? Over to you. Do it in a "useful" way...
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:53 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
- Replies: 163
- Views: 24913
Re: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
Championship :Jomox wrote:Hamilton 2 / Button 1
Hamilton Wins.
Overall points: Senna2 657 / No-Grip 672..
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:42 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
- Replies: 163
- Views: 24913
Re: James Allen - Button & Hamilton Head to Head Analysis
This thread could go on for a while. At the end of the day, they're both evenly matched. You could say Hamilton should be 50-75 points higher, with much better stats if his McLaren hadn't given up, been underfuelled etc. But Button had problems too and would've had a podium at Monza, and some other...
- Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:36 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Ferrari Brazil Appeal Uberthread
- Replies: 555
- Views: 132898
Re: Seems like Vettel did pass someone under flashing yellow
Mod should change this topic's headline, to somehow indicate, that this was a false accusation.. Otherwise people will only read the OP, and just right into the last page and be missinformed. ^^THIS... please? Agreed, suggest, "Seems like Vettel didn't pass someone under flashing yellows.." (.. and...