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JN23

Verstappen allowed to do that?

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JN23 wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:00 pm
So Hamilton has to run long now and pit with about 15-20 to go I guess?

Ok maybe not. Can’t say I understand that strategy from Merc, but that’s not unusual

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So Hamilton has to run long now and pit with about 15-20 to go I guess?

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Early by Verstappen!

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They’re going to crash aren’t they?

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Hopefully Hamilton quicker than Verstappen now with equal tyres that haven’t been in traffic.

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F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:31 pm

JN23 wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:31 pm

F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:29 pm
Perez showing Bottas how to do it.
Bottas might be about to show Perez how to do it though
I wish he would show Max how to do it. Merc need to box Bottas first tbh.

Yeah would be good for them to go aggressive but they won’t want him stuck in the midfield

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F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:29 pm
Perez showing Bottas how to do it.

Bottas might be about to show Perez how to do it though

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Has the button to end the VSC broke?

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Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:13 pm
So, if Bottas drops about 4 seconds behind Lewis behind the safety car, Lewis could pit for tyres as they come through the pits and stay in third!

Would you trust Mercedes to get the tyre change right

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Yeboah24 wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:12 pm

JN23 wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:10 pm
This first six laps has gone perfectly for Hamilton. Up to third and a safety car to close the gap
Well, perfect would have been bottas leading but i take your point.

Yep fair point!

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This first six laps has gone perfectly for Hamilton. Up to third and a safety car to close the gap

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The plan for Bottas would be to maintain lead & control the race to back Max till the time Hamilton closes in. The weather is hotter so I wonder if Mercedes would struggle. Came here to see if anyone had commented on the temperature. There was talk that cooler temps helped Merc so perhaps Red Bull ...

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It’s two from Hamilton, Bottas and Sainz for me. I’d probably go Hamilton and Sainz - I felt both had to do a bit more to get their position than Bottas (who still did a great job, he just didn’t have to do much to keep Verstappen behind)

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Enjoyed this interaction between Vettel and his engineer

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What a move on Norris from Hamilton!

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TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:58 pm
Hamilton really is impressive here. No help along the way, other than kimi spinning.

Both Merc’s have done good job’s so far. Good damage limitation by the team.

*hopefully neither bin it on the last lap

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Wonder if Mercedes would consider changing more parts on Hamilton's car? Won't make a big difference to his miserable weekend so far. It would make his car powerful & stealthy for the next 3 races though. If he finishes outside the top 10 in the sprint (outside top 16 for race), its a no brainer to...

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Here’s the decision document for those interested: https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... %20DRS.pdf

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Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:40 pm
50,000 fine for Max

Possibly more importantly the stewards said ‘no direct harm was caused’ by his actions. That sounds like bad news for Hamilton

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So, the FIA have the Merc rear wing and haven't given it back to Merc to use in FP3. They have given them permission to fit another one though! I love the FIA! Is that permission purely for FP2 or for the other sprint and race too I wonder? As of now for FP. It has to be the same wing under Parc Fe...

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So, the FIA have the Merc rear wing and haven't given it back to Merc to use in FP3. They have given them permission to fit another one though! I love the FIA! Is that permission purely for FP2 or for the other sprint and race too I wonder? I don't know. If the original wing is illegal then they ha...

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Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:36 pm
So, the FIA have the Merc rear wing and haven't given it back to Merc to use in FP3. They have given them permission to fit another one though!

I love the FIA!

Is that permission purely for FP2 or for the other sprint and race too I wonder?

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Max touching the Merc is probably the only thing holding this up. It's a pretty simple test to measure the gap in the rear wing so it's easy to prove, one way or another. The fact Max touched it, no matter how lightly, is probably a saving grace for Merc as nobody can prove that Max touching it did...

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Max touching the Merc is probably the only thing holding this up. It's a pretty simple test to measure the gap in the rear wing so it's easy to prove, one way or another. The fact Max touched it, no matter how lightly, is probably a saving grace for Merc as nobody can prove that Max touching it did...

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Presumably Mercedes need to adjust the opening of Hamilton’s rear wing flap to comply with the regulations in the sprint and the race.

Does anyone know if doing that would breach parc ferme regulations?

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Assume any penalty for Verstappen will be non-sporting but I’m guessing Mercedes are using that to try and avoid any penalty for Hamilton.

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No decision until the morning.

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Verstappen’s rear wing very wide open here too when using DRS:

https://twitter.com/f1talks/status/1459 ... 54246?s=21

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if his dsq then what would be the point to participate in the sprint qualy if his going to start last there and his still going get 5 place grid drop for the race. Because if he can get to about 10th then he’d start 15th instead of 20th on Sunday. He’d probably be able to get higher than 10th too.

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Video of Verstappen having a look at Hamilton’s rear wing after qualifying…

https://twitter.com/frd182/status/14592 ... 11814?s=21

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F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:33 pm

JN23 wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:27 pm

F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:21 pm
Redbull had already reported it before qualifying.
How did they know, from images? Might be why Red bull seemed I bothered by being outpaced in qualifying?
Not sure but according to reports Newey went to see the FIA before quali.

Cheers.

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F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:21 pm
Redbull had already reported it before qualifying.

How did they know, from images? Might be why Red bull seemed I bothered by being outpaced in qualifying?

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Surely an open and shut case... As annoying as it is. Would the penalty be applied for the sprint or the proper race? F1 journalists on twitter seem to think the sprint. And then he’d still have the five places for the main race on Sunday. Which seems harsh, as if it was a normal weekend the five p...

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Did Hamilton think his five place penalty was for tomorrow? He said tomorrow when referencing it in his post-qualy interview but I assumed he just misspoke but his Instagram post also says tomorrow.

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Surely an open and shut case... As annoying as it is. Would the penalty be applied for the sprint or the proper race? F1 journalists on twitter seem to think the sprint. And then he’d still have the five places for the main race on Sunday. Which seems harsh, as if it was a normal weekend the five p...

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Delphic wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:26 pm

Yeboah24 wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:03 pm
Bottas done a perez there.

Would be interesting to know how much of that time came from s3 which i guess the new engine would give the advantage
Why didn't Bottas get P2? Did he run off the track or had a lock up?

It’s Bottas.

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I guess Mercedes know they have to take the new ICE at some point and the next two tracks could throw some curveballs because they’re new, so best not to do it there and they won’t want to do it in Abu Dhabi. Also, if they’re at the point where the last engine wasn’t going to make it through the wee...

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Didn’t expect that coming into the weekend. Apparently Shovlin said before the weekend that if it was cooler then it would help Mercedes against Red Bull and it is pretty cool right now.

Anyway a sprint weekend usually means a Hamilton and Verstappen crash and they share the front row tomorrow…

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Latifi outqualifies Russell!

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