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- Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:07 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
- Replies: 92
- Views: 13693
Re: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
So F1yer to further remove any random lottery factor, should races be cancelled if the weather conditions are changeable or wet? We will see about that... But did you check tge the difference from this SC to Bahrain s. Guess so. If you must know In a fair and ideal world... Yes all SCs are a bit of...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:54 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
- Replies: 92
- Views: 13693
Re: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
One simple change would be to ensure that once the SC flags / notification is out the leader gets first call to pit. Nobody pits until the leader has either gone in or decided not to, by simply passing the pit entry. OK in theory, not sure how easy it would work out in practice. Thank you ! Exactly...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Vettel having a Webber like season?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 5305
Re: Is Vettel having a Webber like season?
I have noticed a lot of the Vettel fans (not only on this forum) sound a lot like Webber fans this year. That's all I'm saying. Its natural for all sets of fans to sympathise with their favorite driver when he`s been affected so much by reliability or bad luck and even make excuses out of it... But...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:50 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
I cant believe anyone in their right mind believes Merc should have left Hamilton out until Nico had pitted under the SC. Thats just for the benefit of hightlighting the stupidity of claims such as "They should never gie undercut to the trailing driver" ... How do you define trailing when strategie...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:48 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Merc "panic" team order drug-induced ?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 5807
Re: Merc "panic" team order drug-induced ?
Rosberg was completely out of line with his attitude. It's NOT Lewis's job, or anyone else's who is fighting for position, to simply yield because a driver feels he should be allowed past, same team or not. It sickens me to hear teams fabricating passes for drivers who should be doing it of their o...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:33 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
- Replies: 92
- Views: 13693
Re: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
But the safety car rules were fine in Bahrain so why all of a sudden do they now need to be fixed?... In Bahrain - no body won the SC Jackpot ....thats why !! SC in Bahrain was a normal occurance. Still a lottery for people at the back - AVG Lottery payout $1M SC at Hungary was a special occurance ...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:22 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
I cant believe anyone in their right mind believes Merc should have left Hamilton out until Nico had pitted under the SC. Thats just for the benefit of hightlighting the stupidity of claims such as "They should never gie undercut to the trailing driver" ... How do you define trailing when strategie...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:12 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Andrew Davies' column: Lewis and Losers of the xxxx GP
- Replies: 94
- Views: 20135
Re: Andrew Davies' column: Lewis and Losers of the xxxx GP
The SC whilst a massive issue still left Nico ahead of Lewis. This is what I struggle to see people failing to understand. So why are their calls of Merc not chosing the right strategy for Lewis? Nico was ahead even after the SCs right and Lewis did not pass Nico but only managed to get the rtack p...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:56 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
They said at Monaco the trailing driver will NEVER get the option of the undercut unless it's to protect then from behind. Nico wasn't in danger from behind. You want Nico to get preferential treatment because you don't believe he is good enough without it. I want equal treatment because I believe ...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:19 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Merc "panic" team order drug-induced ?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 5807
Re: Merc "panic" team order drug-induced ?
the call was a good move on Mercedes part as a team, so I don't think drugs would need to be involved. It's simple maths, and anyone who has the interests of the team in mind, would have made the call. They care about maximum constructor points, not whether it is Nico or Lewis that win. Prime suspe...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:17 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
But why would they change their policies suddenly ? Their policy is to choose the better strategy to the guy who is ahead on 1st corner? Nico was also the guy who was most affected by the SC lottery - why change the strategy because by some turn of fate Lewis is ahead at the time. This way they wil...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:11 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Merc "panic" team order drug-induced ?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 5807
Re: Merc "panic" team order drug-induced ?
the call was a good move on Mercedes part as a team, so I don't think drugs would need to be involved. It's simple maths, and anyone who has the interests of the team in mind, would have made the call. They care about maximum constructor points, not whether it is Nico or Lewis that win. Prime suspe...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
Wolff maintains that, had Hamilton let him through, Rosberg could have won the race. No matter what other strategy calls could or should have been made, and no matter he is right, Wolff's comments are enough for me to consider Hamilton as having acted against the interests of his team. if thats tru...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:04 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Merc "panic" team order drug-induced ?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 5807
Re: Merc "panic" team order drug-induced ?
In a pre-race interview Toto Wolff divulged that he was taking 'powerful painkillers' following injuries acquired in a cycling accident .... Whilst Niki Lauda has condemned the incident as a "panic" reaction & has praised Lewis' actions ... Toto is briefing the media with opposite statements & spec...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:58 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Vettel having a Webber like season?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 5305
Re: Is Vettel having a Webber like season?
It is true. I can now understand the pain of fellow Webber supporters.
Little things go a long way in final results.... Respect Wibbah
Little things go a long way in final results.... Respect Wibbah
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:56 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
Wolff maintains that, had Hamilton let him through, Rosberg could have won the race. No matter what other strategy calls could or should have been made, and no matter he is right, Wolff's comments are enough for me to consider Hamilton as having acted against the interests of his team. if thats tru...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
So you stand by it Flyer? Just so I am clear, in your view whoever leads going through turn 1 on lap 1 deserves to win the race? Why do we even bother with pit stops, strategy, safety cars, fuel loads, gear ratios or even race laps? Again what I think is irrelevant. But thats the Merc Policy.. isnt...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:38 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: How would YOU manage team-orders
- Replies: 47
- Views: 6837
Re: How would YOU manage team-orders
Let them race, no team orders during the race. Up until qualifying make both sides of the garage share all data, and both drivers receive absolutely equal resources and machinery. But once qualifying begins, each side of the garage are now distinct and competing against each other. If both drivers ...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:33 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: How would YOU manage team-orders
- Replies: 47
- Views: 6837
Re: How would YOU manage team-orders
Race clean is the only rule. Pit strategies are called by the drivers themselves - both will have been given information on the ideal pit time/ traffic issue. Both are free to call for strat changes during race. No sharing data other than car setup for balance - none of that stuff that says were x ...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:32 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Your best 3 drivers for the first half of the year
- Replies: 80
- Views: 14848
Re: Your best 3 drivers for the first half of the year
Dan, Ros and HAm
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:28 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: How would YOU manage team-orders
- Replies: 47
- Views: 6837
Re: How would YOU manage team-orders
So you're the boss of a team that has clearly the best car and 2 drivers with equal ability to get the job done. From the outset it's clear the WDC is going to be between them and the discussion turns to team orders. Rules says you can, heart says you don't want to (probably) but the situation will...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:05 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Ricciardo Salary/Contract for 2015
- Replies: 51
- Views: 10431
Re: Ricciardo Salary/Contract for 2015
Mercedes were quick to resign Rosberg with a massive paybump after his stellar driving this year with a 55 million euro 3 year contract as his contract expired this year. Ricciardo supposedly only had a 1 year contract for 2014 with redbull for 2 million a year I have read. Vettel is supposedly on ...
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:02 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
- Replies: 92
- Views: 13693
Re: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
Make sure its rainbowlbennie wrote:Come on man.
The safety car lottery is the reason we got one of the races of the decade, and you want to 'fix' it?
I want to slap you through the internet with a cold wet trout OP.
BTW - I m happy too as long as my driver gets the rub of the green.
- Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:53 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Andrew Davies' column: Lewis and Losers of the xxxx GP
- Replies: 94
- Views: 20135
Re: Andrew Davies' column: Lewis and Losers of the xxxx GP
Where is the article?
And please tell me that their is commenting facility on that.
And please tell me that their is commenting facility on that.
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:13 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
There is no point having a fast car to drive if you are shackled relative to your teammate, Mercedes are controlling who wins the races Both are shackled so its very fair. Pole starter / Leader after 1st corner gets to win is a fair system until one of the driver breaks the system to gain an advant...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
shoot999 wrote:F1yer is the gift that keeps on giving. But speak as you find; he never gets nasty and does make me smile.Ahwooga wrote:Clarky wrote:F1yer you still going... good lad...!
I m in a good mood today. Much better than yesterday !
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:05 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
There is no point having a fast car to drive if you are shackled relative to your teammate, Mercedes are controlling who wins the races Both are shackled so its very fair. Pole starter / Leader after 1st corner gets to win is a fair system until one of the driver breaks the system to gain an advant...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:00 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Would Mercedes Intentionally Disadvantage Hamilton?
- Replies: 182
- Views: 29337
Re: Would Mercedes Intentionally Disadvantage Hamilton?
The biggest mistake they made was putting Lewis on hards for his final stop. if they had put him on softs, Nico wouldn't have caught him, the "team orders" would not have been required, and Merc would have probably gotten a 1-2 either way. Maybe they didn't force him to pull over as they knew he wa...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:56 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
- Replies: 92
- Views: 13693
Re: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
This all seems a bit reactionary. The SC procedure is fine how it is. To the OP, it's clear you feel a little scorned by what happened in Hungary (and to a point I can understand) but I'm sure the drivers who lost out this time around have long since gotten over it. I dont discount that maybe the O...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:51 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Your verdict after the half of the season
- Replies: 27
- Views: 5751
Re: Your verdict after the half of the season
Winners: Us. More power than grip means we've had some of the best racing in years. I can't remember the last time you could see such difference in driver quality just by watching them go through an unspectacular corner. Where is the evidence of that? The overtakes are merely a matter of engine rev...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:41 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Your verdict after the half of the season
- Replies: 27
- Views: 5751
Re: Your verdict after the half of the season
Winners: Losers: Vettel - The current car properties do not suit him Yes... that's his problem... the car doesn't suit him. It's not like he's just simply overrated, a four time fraud, and slower than his teammate. Same with Raikkonen right? It's the car... Losers: Rosberg - For being obviously slo...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:36 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who would you hire?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 8038
Re: Who would you hire?
Hey - You will come around buddyEnnis wrote:This is the first and most likely the last time I'll ever say this... I agree with F1yer.F1yer wrote:Dan and Bottas
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:34 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel v Ricciardo 2014 watch
- Replies: 671
- Views: 144623
Re: Vettel v Ricciardo 2014 watch
Vettel screwed up his own race yesterday by doing that 360 spin that could have been even worse. Without that he was still ahead of Ricciardo on track and could have went on to win the race. Did I miss something? When Vettel did the mighty spin - he was well behind Dan with equal number of stops done
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who would you hire?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 8038
Re: Who would you hire?
Dan and Bottas
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:23 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
Mercedes will know that they were wrong...! The computers told them otherwise. The likelihood is had Nico been allowed through he could have finished second at best. But the only person Mercedes would have hurt by doing that was their own driver so that's why the call was silly. If Nico was battlin...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:15 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: with all the bitching and whinging can I just say..Ricciardo
- Replies: 53
- Views: 11218
Re: with all the bitching and whinging can I just say..Ricci
Hear Hear.
My new favorite - now dont all me a glory hunter
I always liked the kid. Polar opposite of the grumpy fella he replaced.
My new favorite - now dont all me a glory hunter
I always liked the kid. Polar opposite of the grumpy fella he replaced.
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:14 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
Agreed poor strategy call from Mercedes. Not sure why they gave Rosberg the better strategy when Hamilton earned track position. Rosberg also has to use 'used' super softs in the end where Hamilton still had fresh super softs so would have has at leas a lap or two extra pace in them. Hamilton made ...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right call?
- Replies: 350
- Views: 46902
Re: Hungary Merc Team Orders: Did Hamilton make the right ca
Didn't Herbert say that if they put Hamilton on the soft tyre he would have won the race? He said "If I was Hamilton asking about the team orders wouldn't be the first thing I would do it would be to ask why I wasn't given the softer tyre best strategy and offered the chance of winning the race and...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:00 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
- Replies: 92
- Views: 13693
Re: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
I have never seen such a lottery as the SC at Hungary 14. Race was completely reversed on its head. It may be entertaining to see a bloke driving the fastest car from the pitlane come up the grid but this was just ridiculous. No other SC lottery has altered the results as much at this one? The whol...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:23 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
- Replies: 92
- Views: 13693
Re: Safety Car Lottery... Idea to fix
Hamilton stole that first pitstop advantage (even bigger advantage under SC) but when Nico was trying to make good that disadvantage by doing an alternate strategy - he blocked that. SO its for Merc to implement a strcit first guy pits first rule. This thread however is about the more generally the ...