Yeah Ricciardo was the better driver but Kvyat gets the points because he finished in front, yet Rosberg is looked as the better driver and gets the points even though he finished behind, strange? :? No, if you actually read it the logic is consistent. The slower driver who made less errors gets th...

I can't read all of that because some of it is rubbish, the poor starts were down to the car not Hamilton as witnessed by the poor starts from Rosberg as well. This year there was the strategy mistake at Monaco a race which he was dominating whilst at Silverstone he just had a dodgy few laps on a w...

Who voted for Kvyat? He had such an average race and was gifted 2nd. Hulk overtook him early and he could get past till hulks front wing went. Bottas got a puncture. Ham crashed and penalty Ric was crashed into 3 times. Rosberg punctured himself Kimi lost half his engine. I didn't see him make one o...

So, Maldonado, side by side, pushes Perez out and gets penalty. Perez looses not much. Dan makes a puncture to Rosberg from behind, and gets none. Rosberg goes from 2 to 8th. Sorry Dreb, I often agree with you but in my eyes Ricciardo was on the edge of the track and Rosberg came over. I'd be inter...

How was it Rosberg's corner when Ric arrived first? If Ric was able to stop himself and take the apex, it was his line to take. Rosberg only was able to come back at him as Ric had run wide with too much speed. You answered it yourself. He ran wide and Rosberg took the racing line. Ric was only abl...

How was it Rosberg's corner when Ric arrived first? If Ric was able to stop himself and take the apex, it was his line to take. Rosberg only was able to come back at him as Ric had run wide with too much speed. Ricciardo might've hit the apex but it was at a tangent that was taking him off the line...

He is not god, but at times he can be good at late breaking. Plus, he could do a bit better than ruining Rosbergs race, no matter how bad was Rosberg today. You must be joking!! At no point was that Ricco's fault. The wooden eyed Nico tried to fight back but we all know his skills(or lack there of)...

He is not god, but at times he can be good at late breaking. Plus, he could do a bit better than ruining Rosbergs race, no matter how bad was Rosberg today. You must be joking!! At no point was that Ricco's fault. The wooden eyed Nico tried to fight back but we all know his skills(or lack there of)...

Yep, I saw it as Rosbergs fault. He let Ricciardo go past to the outside of the track. Rosbergs then had the inside line. He either tried to run Ricciardo off the track or get him to back off his accelerator to avoid the contact. He should have given him more room. The big question has to be, why w...

Yep, I saw it as Rosbergs fault. He let Ricciardo go past to the outside of the track. Rosbergs then had the inside line. He either tried to run Ricciardo off the track or get him to back off his accelerator to avoid the contact. He should have given him more room. The big question has to be, why wa...

Another one was Vettel's move from Toro Rosso to Red Bull. At the time Toro Rosso with Ferrari engines were much faster than Red Bull with Renault. I remember thinking at the end of 2008 that Vettel would be better off staying at Toro Rosso. However the FIA let Renault update their engine to catch u...

That is quite the shopping list of excuses there! You should see the shopping list of excuses forming in the Ricciardo thread this season. :lol: The fact of the matter is, the 'shopping list of excuses' also represents valid reasons if they are true - which is the case for both. I think what initia...

I don't see how. In a lap they can go over the fuel flow rate in one section and lift and coast in another. The point is that they should never exceed a specific limit, so fuel left over is irrelevant[/quote] Sorry if I am not explaining it well. If a car had a tank of fuel that was 20kg, and you c...

But what is left is what you can use to accurately collaborate your fuel flow data. It wouldn't matter if you drove at 10 or 300 kmph, or under safety car etc if the numbers didn't add up for Red Bull, I doubt very much they would have gone to court. No, I don't think it can. A safety car in partic...

Interesting read, however it wasn't Red Bull vs the FIA sensor. It was Red Bull repeatedly disobeying a FIA order during the race to not go over the fuel flow, when they would have been thinking during the race, we are not going over. Based on up to 5 of the sensors failing at one race, I am would ...

Interesting read, however it wasn't Red Bull vs the FIA sensor. It was Red Bull repeatedly disobeying a FIA order during the race to not go over the fuel flow, when they would have been thinking during the race, we are not going over. Based on up to 5 of the sensors failing at one race, I am would ...

I thought that Red Bull had measured the fuel flow and found that the FIA's sensor was not accurate. It had failed and been swapped a few times already that weekend alone. They went off their internal systems which they believed to be far more accurate. What they said was that had they used the dod...

Eg 2nd in Australia - disqualified The DSQ came because the car was running an illegal fuel flow. Had it been running legally, then it wouldn't have come in second. Still in the points, but a good bit down the order. How are you quantifying that? For all we know the fuel flow sensor added very mini...

I remember when refueling was banned. It made it so predictable. 2 drivers fighting, one pits first and comes out on fresh rubber, the other guy goes 1 lap longer losing time on old tyres, and when we pits he comes out behind the other guy. Known as the undercut. Contrast this to with refueling, 2 g...

Kvyat has been very good recently. However it is hard to compare the 2 drivers when the Renault engines are so flaky. Is that much different from last year though? Both Kvyat and Vettel last year had tons of engine issues (and so did the other Renault guys, too) which could have comprimised speed a...

Kvyat has been very good recently. However it is hard to compare the 2 drivers when the Renault engines are so flaky. The last engine Dan got, Renault said it would be 30 days before they knew if it was reliable or not. (That was in Austria) Well we all know it failed in Silverstone. They are waitin...

Vergne was no where near ricciardo. If you state this you weren't really paying attention to their battle. Ricciardo during his time with Vergne was clearly better. I would call Vergne a good F1 driver, absolutely. Again, to claim that Ricciardo was anything but slightly better than JEV is demonstr...

Vergne was no where near ricciardo. If you state this you weren't really paying attention to their battle. Ricciardo during his time with Vergne was clearly better. I would call Vergne a good F1 driver, absolutely. Again, to claim that Ricciardo was anything but slightly better than JEV is demonstr...

Forced hand that turned out to be lucky.
Of course Lewis would say it was the best decision of his career after it happened.
Just prior to the stop Nico was catching him at 1-2 seconds per lap.
If it didn't rain then and stayed dry Nico would have won the race.

I think Dan is the man. The car or to be more exact, the power unit is a dog. They are still not on top of the reliability issues. I remember that at Austria Renault were saying after they replaced Dan's engine, that it would be 30 days or so till they worked out if that engine was reliable, then th...