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JN23

It’s two from Hamilton, Bottas and Sainz for me. I’d probably go Hamilton and Sainz - I felt both had to do a bit more to get their position than Bottas (who still did a great job, he just didn’t have to do much to keep Verstappen behind)

JN23

Enjoyed this interaction between Vettel and his engineer

JN23

What a move on Norris from Hamilton!

JN23

TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:58 pm
Hamilton really is impressive here. No help along the way, other than kimi spinning.

Both Merc’s have done good job’s so far. Good damage limitation by the team.

*hopefully neither bin it on the last lap

JN23

Wonder if Mercedes would consider changing more parts on Hamilton's car? Won't make a big difference to his miserable weekend so far. It would make his car powerful & stealthy for the next 3 races though. If he finishes outside the top 10 in the sprint (outside top 16 for race), its a no brainer to...

JN23

Here’s the decision document for those interested: https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... %20DRS.pdf

JN23

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:40 pm
50,000 fine for Max

Possibly more importantly the stewards said ‘no direct harm was caused’ by his actions. That sounds like bad news for Hamilton

JN23

So, the FIA have the Merc rear wing and haven't given it back to Merc to use in FP3. They have given them permission to fit another one though! I love the FIA! Is that permission purely for FP2 or for the other sprint and race too I wonder? As of now for FP. It has to be the same wing under Parc Fe...

JN23

So, the FIA have the Merc rear wing and haven't given it back to Merc to use in FP3. They have given them permission to fit another one though! I love the FIA! Is that permission purely for FP2 or for the other sprint and race too I wonder? I don't know. If the original wing is illegal then they ha...

JN23

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:36 pm
So, the FIA have the Merc rear wing and haven't given it back to Merc to use in FP3. They have given them permission to fit another one though!

I love the FIA!

Is that permission purely for FP2 or for the other sprint and race too I wonder?

JN23

Max touching the Merc is probably the only thing holding this up. It's a pretty simple test to measure the gap in the rear wing so it's easy to prove, one way or another. The fact Max touched it, no matter how lightly, is probably a saving grace for Merc as nobody can prove that Max touching it did...

JN23

Max touching the Merc is probably the only thing holding this up. It's a pretty simple test to measure the gap in the rear wing so it's easy to prove, one way or another. The fact Max touched it, no matter how lightly, is probably a saving grace for Merc as nobody can prove that Max touching it did...

JN23

Presumably Mercedes need to adjust the opening of Hamilton’s rear wing flap to comply with the regulations in the sprint and the race.

Does anyone know if doing that would breach parc ferme regulations?

JN23

Assume any penalty for Verstappen will be non-sporting but I’m guessing Mercedes are using that to try and avoid any penalty for Hamilton.

JN23

No decision until the morning.

JN23

Verstappen’s rear wing very wide open here too when using DRS:

https://twitter.com/f1talks/status/1459 ... 54246?s=21

JN23

if his dsq then what would be the point to participate in the sprint qualy if his going to start last there and his still going get 5 place grid drop for the race. Because if he can get to about 10th then he’d start 15th instead of 20th on Sunday. He’d probably be able to get higher than 10th too.

JN23

Video of Verstappen having a look at Hamilton’s rear wing after qualifying…

https://twitter.com/frd182/status/14592 ... 11814?s=21

JN23

F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:33 pm

JN23 wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:27 pm

F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:21 pm
Redbull had already reported it before qualifying.
How did they know, from images? Might be why Red bull seemed I bothered by being outpaced in qualifying?
Not sure but according to reports Newey went to see the FIA before quali.

Cheers.

JN23

F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:21 pm
Redbull had already reported it before qualifying.

How did they know, from images? Might be why Red bull seemed I bothered by being outpaced in qualifying?

JN23

Surely an open and shut case... As annoying as it is. Would the penalty be applied for the sprint or the proper race? F1 journalists on twitter seem to think the sprint. And then he’d still have the five places for the main race on Sunday. Which seems harsh, as if it was a normal weekend the five p...

JN23

Did Hamilton think his five place penalty was for tomorrow? He said tomorrow when referencing it in his post-qualy interview but I assumed he just misspoke but his Instagram post also says tomorrow.

JN23

Surely an open and shut case... As annoying as it is. Would the penalty be applied for the sprint or the proper race? F1 journalists on twitter seem to think the sprint. And then he’d still have the five places for the main race on Sunday. Which seems harsh, as if it was a normal weekend the five p...

JN23

Delphic wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:26 pm

Yeboah24 wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:03 pm
Bottas done a perez there.

Would be interesting to know how much of that time came from s3 which i guess the new engine would give the advantage
Why didn't Bottas get P2? Did he run off the track or had a lock up?

It’s Bottas.

JN23

I guess Mercedes know they have to take the new ICE at some point and the next two tracks could throw some curveballs because they’re new, so best not to do it there and they won’t want to do it in Abu Dhabi. Also, if they’re at the point where the last engine wasn’t going to make it through the wee...

JN23

Didn’t expect that coming into the weekend. Apparently Shovlin said before the weekend that if it was cooler then it would help Mercedes against Red Bull and it is pretty cool right now.

Anyway a sprint weekend usually means a Hamilton and Verstappen crash and they share the front row tomorrow…

JN23

Latifi outqualifies Russell!

JN23

JN23 wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:11 am
Brazil

Verstappen
Hamilton
Perez

Amending to

Verstappen
Perez
Hamilton

JN23

Bentrovato wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:34 pm
Are we allowed to change our picks before qualifying? Sorry if it’s been asked before but I’m not sure if the rules change for sprint weekends.

Yep you can change your picks any time before qualifying on sprint weekends. Please make a new post rather than editing your old one.

JN23

Hamilton five place penalty for a new ICe confirmed.

JN23

One of F1’s justifications for the sprint race is that it gives Friday more interest because qualifying is then. They fail to mention that they have then generally made saturday a non-event. On a more positive note (sorry for the off topic): it seems they’re getting rid of the Q2 tyre rule for 2022,...

JN23

Brazil

Red Bull 1 P
Mercedes P 6 FL
Ferrari 6 6
AlphaTauri 10 14
McLaren 10 10
Alpine 10 NF
Aston Martin 14 14
Alfa Romeo 14 NF
Williams F NF
Haas F NF

JN23

Brazil

1. Verstappen
2. Hamilton
3. Perez
4. Bottas
5. Leclerc
6. Sainz
7. Gasly
8. Alonso
9. Norris
10. Ricciardo

JN23

Brazil

Q1
20. Mazepin
19. Schumacher
18. Latifi
17. Raikkonen
16. Stroll

Q2
15. Russell
14. Giovinazzi
13. Ocon
12. Vettel
11. Alonso

Q3
10. Tsunoda
9. Ricciardo
8. Norris
7. Sainz
6. Gasly
5. Leclerc
4. Perez
3. Bottas
2. Hamilton
1. Verstappen

JN23

Brazil

Verstappen
Hamilton
Perez

JN23

A reminder that the Brazilian GP this weekend has a sprint qualifying race on the Saturday and therefore the deadline for predictions is the start of the Friday qualifying session.

That's 19.00 UK time, 16.00 Sao Paolo time.

JN23

Red Bull tried to ‘fix’ a race, but Vettel didn’t listen. Multi 21.

JN23

Some great shouts from Schumacherforever (Norris to outscore Ricciardo), Invade (best season in years) and Exediron (Leclerc to score multiple poles but not win a race*). F1 Tyrant’s shout on Sainz almost matching Leclerc was very good too.

*still time for that to change.

JN23

To get the ball rolling: Mazepin to score more points than Schumacher Ocon to be pretty even with Alonso McLaren to go backwards due to lack of testing time with new car/engine combo and drop back in the champiosnhip Well it’s looking like I might be right on the McLaren one but they’ve been a lot ...

JN23

Yea it has been a change, but if you look at the points over the last few races (back to russia for example), Perez has only scored 3 more points than Bottas. Perez has been consistently solid, but overall, not exactly better than bottas even over these few races i mention, so I don't see how anyon...

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