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If they are doing sprint races they need to come up with a sprint compound of tyre I think and something else to make them different from a normal race - I seriously dont see the point the way this is My thoughts exactly watching this. If they are set on sprint races this makes so much sense. Bette...

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So now with the sprint sessions having no influence on the actual GP, if I were the RB drivers, & maybe even Alonso, i'd be inclined to not even bother pushing it in the sprint sessions & instead use them as a chance to gather data or just run at the back of the field to aviod any chance of a colli...

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If you put the slowest driver on pole position then that's rewarding poor performance, in F2 and F3 we see slower drivers being able to win races because faster drivers have been basically handicapped, they then get feted as race winners, that's not sport it's just entertainment, yes it can be view...

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Reverse grids you either like them or not, I always view sport as a meritocracy thus don't believe anyone should be rewarded for poor performance, I believe most feel the same. I find it hard to distinguish reverse grid races from Hollywood red flags dash for the cash finishes (NASCAR term), both p...

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The other option that seems really quite obvious, but perhaps there are good reasons for not going with it, would be to have qualy on Friday set the grid for Sunday, and use reverse order for the sprint race.

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With shorter qualifying sessions they should introduce some form of penalty for bringing out yellow /red flags. Would be a good opportunity to trial things like that for actual qualifying. Would like to see drivers penalized for interrupting sessions.

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Just stick the the normal rules. Races are fine to finish under the SC. Worked perfectly fine until they decided to amend it for the 2021 title decider. This is really where you would hope the discussion should end for the vast majority on this forum. I disagree. The SC is an incredibly artificial ...

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IDFD wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:01 am
Just stick the the normal rules. Races are fine to finish under the SC. Worked perfectly fine until they decided to amend it for the 2021 title decider.

This is really where you would hope the discussion should end for the vast majority on this forum.

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My ideal is that when there is a red flag that the cars are released back into the track at their previous gap, but there’s no chance of that happening. I want them to get rid of the grid start at least but that’s not happening either unless there’s a driver revolt. This isn’t my ideal as I don’t s...

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It does make you wonder what they actually reviewed and agreed following AD2021. Clearly nothing meaningful in terms of a plan going forward. Against standing starts generally (other than the actual start) but at a minimum the rules should rule them out in the latter stages. They should be restricte...

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Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:47 am
In the photo he's clearly along way forwards. I don't know what constitutes out of position though.
Is this on the re-start or the re-re-start?
I think whichever one was the last standing start.
The one that didn't count but you can still get penalties from?

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Thanks mate. 4 DRS zones apparently, sigh... I agree, I think if the cars are so much better for racing now we need to be doing away with DRS not having 4 zones :uhoh: It saddens me that were in this situation now where we won't see racing without DRS anymore and almost every pass is gonna be a DRS...

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2020 was the most uncompetitive season of F1 I have watched for a while. Anything will be better than that, at least the qualifyng is a lot of fun right now At least, 2020 was much shorter than this season will be ... Maybe Aston will use that to climb a bit closer to the top Given how RB is outdev...

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Surely it is an ongoing process – just like development of the cars. The teams don’t stop developing – sure mainly in terms of pace, but they explore every avenue and making it harder for cars to follow will always be a part of that. So, I suspect development of the rules/regs to try and find the ri...

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Some interesting comments from Sainz today: https://the-race.com/formula-1/deliberate-crashes-more-common-in-f1-than-you-think-sainz/ - he refused to comment on whether Perez in Monaco was deliberate, but suggested that deliberate crashes happen more often than you think. - all drivers want some so...

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I think quite the opposite. Max and Red Bull are currently perfectly compatible.

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I’m a little bit behind with the viewing. “Yeah I think it was a good … was good move to try and go around the outside. But then I saw that he had no intention to give me space so. And I had no intention to back out so.” Some major twisting of words going around, but not surprising really. What twi...

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Final thought, by excluding the financial penalty that automatically creates more disparity between the wealthy teams and those that are not. A team with an actual budget below the cap, has no option to exclude the fine from their budget...because that it all the money they have to spend. I actually...

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So it begs the question, what happens if Red Bull overspend again next season? Do they get a harsher penalty? What happens if Merc or Ferrari respond and overspend this year? What happens if all three overspend? At what point do they come down harder? It just becomes a bit like a reality tv show or ...

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Guess it's a slap on the wrist then.

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Apologies if I've missed it but does anyone know whether fines are identified in the financial requirements as an exclusion or not? Presumably if it isn't stated, the assumption would have to be that any fines count against the teams budget for that year? Quite an important little detail either way.

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See that Red Bull have claimed the disputed amount is 1-200k. The FIA might not want to publicly announce details, but they should surely make a clear statement whether that is true or not now that Red Bull have put it out there. The more transparency the better at this point.

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And they'd be absolutely right to. Fans would deserve transparency as well. I'm not sure I agree with this statement under the specific circumstances of the FIA agreeing with Red Bull's arguments and issuing a compliance certificate. Certificates can't be disputed per the regulations. If Red Bull i...

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Those examples are all of technical rules within a race or qualifying session, which have clearly outlined rules and penalties which are disqualification. The person you quoted is discussing instances of things that happened off track ( other than crashgate ) and influenced car development, exactly...

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So the last big "cheating" scandal in my eyes was Spygate. Let's use that as a guide and do the same punishment. $150 million (updated from $100 million USD in 2007) and thrown out of the constructor championship (which is also a loss of money, no?) And in addition a loss of double the amount they ...

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In your opinion is there any penalty that does not effect the drivers championship that would be suitable? Well certainly not a financial penalty that can be eaten up by Red Bull like scooby snacks, I mean did anyone have this idea that you could win any title while being outside the budget cap? Wh...

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I've got to say I'm not shocked at how many people are happy with blatant cheating and defending it. It's become the norm around here. Breaking the cost cap is cheating and defending it is acknowledging you're happy with cheating . It's fairly black and white that we now know Red Bull cheated last ...

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That is all very well but we are led to believe that Red Bull and the FIA have been in discussion on the budget for some time now. I would think it is fair to assume that the FIA have given Red Bull ample opportunity to defend their interpretation, and presumably wouldn't have given themselves this ...

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Not thinking directly about last year, but wouldn't points deduction from both WCC AND WDC relative to the magnitude of overspend make the most sense. That way if a small overspend helps a team achieve a higher position in either then they will have a meaningful penalty. If they comfortably outscor...

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Not thinking directly about last year, but wouldn't points deduction from both WCC AND WDC relative to the magnitude of overspend make the most sense. That way if a small overspend helps a team achieve a higher position in either then they will have a meaningful penalty. If they comfortably outscore...

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Reading this thread with some bemusement... It seems like it will be a real riot here when whatever is announced is so announced. Bring out the popcorn. My real question is: how can any team that's part of an automobile manufacturer not be significantly advantaged (for free) by that parent's knowle...

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Or is it simply to stop teams from bringing cars out of the garage, and 'parking' them in the 'pit stop position' temporarily prior to entering the track. Not even sure what benefit that would provide.

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thinking this through...my best guess is that it is perhaps to prevent practice starts at the end of the pit lane?

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Fiki, so how does any of this fit in with you saying it's safer to stop at the side of the track rather than just stopping in the pitlane? I really don't understand your argument here. My argument isn't that it is safer to stop at the side of the track, rather than in the pitlane. Rather that there...

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There is no but. Aggregate time was removed but that is irrelevant to inaccurate the point you made. But the guy in 10th hasn't been lapped by the guy in 9th. Why should the guy in 10th be penalised an entire lap to the guy in 9th? That destroys the integrity of the race far more than keeping lappe...

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Love how so much of the focus is towards Mercedes who aren’t even really in contention at this point. I’d be much more interested in what people think this would mean for those actually contending for race wins. My guess is that measured limits on porposing/vertical acceleration would be a big set ...

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Love how so much of the focus is towards Mercedes who aren’t even really in contention at this point. I’d be much more interested in what people think this would mean for those actually contending for race wins. My guess is that measured limits on porposing/vertical acceleration would be a big set b...

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Looks like FIFA/UEFA have banned Russia, and Russian clubs, from footballing competitions, but presumably Russian players would still be eligible to play for other teams clubs? Not actually read anything specific on this so perhaps I am wrong? F1 I guess is a bit of a hybrid, as you represent the te...

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Drivers have been reporting early indications that the ability to follow cars has been improved....so that's sounding positive.

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Porpoising as seen on Charles today. https://twitter.com/i/status/1496888665431326726 Looks pretty severe to my eyes, and they not really going at racing speeds yet. Hope all the teams find a quick solution to it. Yikes, that is bad! Apparently they can fix it easily, but the trick is fixing it wit...

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