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Beleriand_K

Verstappen currently lacks a head to head with a WDC/GOAT/top-rated teammate. Until he's been tested in that aspect, then i put him firmly behind Senna and Stewart. I'm not sure we can really say that about Stewart, either. He had Graham Hill as a teammate in his first two years, and lost to him bo...

Beleriand_K

Done. First one of these I have personally created - so give it a go. It works perfectly fine :-) Here is how I voted in the poll: 1 Verstappen 2 Stewart 3 Senna 4 Lauda 5 Brabham 6 Piquet I rank the first four pretty much the same, but with Verstappen slightly in the lead.

Beleriand_K

Verstappen Senna - Stewart - Lauda Brabham - Piquet Verstappen fits into the magnificent group of Senna, Stewart and Lauda, but the perfection he is showing after having matured as a Formula 1 driver puts him slightly ahead of them all. Senna, Stewart and Lauda all come close, and it's difficult to ...

Beleriand_K

If Perez is just coming out to serve his penalty, then there is a loophole in the system. And crofty is speaking nonsense saying he is doing it to avoid getting a penalty for the next race. When does that ever happen? I don't understand the reasoning about not carrying the 5 seconds with him to the...

Beleriand_K

I think the decision was made a while ago but Lawson is doing better than expected. He was pretty good in first half and but probably some 0.3secs slower per lap in second half on hard tyres. How would Ricciardo promoted to Red Bull 2024 to secure a pair of experienced and reliable hands, Lawson si...

Beleriand_K

He's not mentally strong enough. Everyone *thinks* they are good until they actually have to step up and show the world. I'd never thought Checo had a weaker mind than Bottas. Maybe Marko had a point about Checo having a Latin temperament (although it's a very lazy stereotype). Bottas didn't have a...

Beleriand_K

Isn't Mexico in North America? Apparently not all agree on that because a geographical line crosses through Mexico. That is if I understand the explanation correct: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/how-many-countries-are-there-in-north-america.html "Although Mexico is generally included as part ...

Beleriand_K

Personally I think it's time for the Hulkenberg/Magnussen/Perez/Bottas generation of drivers to start being eased out. I can sympathize with that. They are drivers with a vast experience and still capable of putting in a performance once in a while. But none of them will ever be WDC-candidates. Hül...

Beleriand_K

I'm against the DRS in general, so I voted Abandon. Yes, that would make some races very dull, but then it's the FIA's job to correct that by changing whatever it is, that prevents true racing taking place. DRS is an artificial remedy in line with adding extra weight to cars topping the WCC. Or star...

Beleriand_K

Thank you

Beleriand_K

Note: I wrote this in the first deleted box, but now it is placed at the bottom. Sometimes modern technology is just too much for my old brain. I promise not to touch the keyboard again until a mod has saved the day by cleaning up my mess.

Beleriand_K

If you are evaluating the outright speed of the car, then surely it is best to take the fastest time? No, I don't think so. In the perfect world from a statistically point of view every car should be tested by all 20 drivers, and then the average time would be the true answer to how fast this car i...

Beleriand_K

If you are evaluating the outright speed of the car, then surely it is best to take the fastest time? No, I don't think so. In the perfect world from a statistically point of view every car should be tested by all 20 drivers, and then the average time would be the true answer to how fast this car i...

Beleriand_K

Out of interest, are you using both drivers' times to create your average, or just the fastest in each qually? I'm using both drivers times. For most teams it doesn't make a big difference, but for some teams it does. An example of this is Aston Martin, where there is a big difference between the t...

Beleriand_K

Hamilton raced better teammates and was beaten much more frequently by those teammates. If Hamilton had made Rosberg, Button and Russell look as bad as Verstappen made Albon, Gasly and Perez I'd agree with you. If Rosberg, Button, and Russell are better than Albon, Gasly, and Perez, then your argum...

Beleriand_K

Yes, tire management sounds like a plausible explanation.

At the other end of the table that also goes a long way explaning Haas being just about as fast as Williams, AlphaTauri and Alfa Romeo during qualifying, but then going tumbling down the list during the race.

Beleriand_K

In the current WCC Red Bull is the run-away leader with 583 points, while Ferrari is only third with 228 points. So Adrian Newey has once again created something magic. Something way better than everybody else. Including Ferrari. Or has he? If we look at the qualifying times this year there isn't re...

Beleriand_K

Has anyone contemplated Hulk at Red Bull in '25? He's an excellent qualifier, gets along well with Max & is a good team player as well. The above scenario would only become a reality if Red Bull don't find Ricciardo lucrative enough for a return. I think Tsunoda is not in the picture as it's a hidd...

Beleriand_K

Here is how I voted in the poll: 1 Alonso 2 Rosberg 3 Bottas 4 Ricciardo 5 Button 6 Sainz 7 Perez 8 Russell 9 Gasly 10 Albon 11 Kovalainen Voters: 29 EPROM-score 1.091 Request: Is it possible to add information about different levels of EPROM-levels to the scoresheet? I can't remember what numbers s...

Beleriand_K

I think Verstappen may very well be the best driver this season. He's been absolutely peerless. However it is hard to evaluate him when he doesn't face the same challenges as anyone else. That's a problem with Formula 1, that will never go away. Even though we as fans don't like to hear it, Formula...

Beleriand_K

Here's the ranking based on the publicized scores only. I used median as suggested by EPROM, but it wouldn't really have made a difference if I had used the ordinary average or the little less ordinary geomean. There isn't any major outliers to compensate for. https://i.ibb.co/s6YhvtS/Screenshot-202...

Beleriand_K

I am not a statistician by any stretch of the imagination, but wouldn’t it be better to remove outliers? I wouldn’t know whether to do this for the outlier itself or for the entire vote. But perhaps easier said than done. No, it's actually very simple. You just use either the median as EPROM sugges...

Beleriand_K

I think we covered this the last time we had such a controversy, but using an average is most susceptible to intentional pollution. I believe that the best and easiest way (least sensitive) is to use the median rank from the votes for each driver. I would think that this should be relatively easy i...

Beleriand_K

Perez has been laughably bad imo. How do you perform that badly in such a dominant car I do not know. Even though Perez has disappointed during the second quarter of the season "laughably bad" isn't exactly the words I would use to describe a driver, who has won two races against a Red Bull/Max Ver...

Beleriand_K

On a general note, does anyone have a good datasource of qualifying and race data that has some sort of general access (i.e. not paid)? I would like to do some analysis, but having to retrieve data from all sorts of places in various formats and stitching this data together seems a fair bit of work...

Beleriand_K

Anyone got any really big differences between their vote and the average? The average has Leclerc 5th and I had him 9th. The rest of mine are within two of the average. (after 15 votes) I have two names with difference of four positions against the average: 1) I rank Perez 9 against the average 13....

Beleriand_K

Massa has officially opened legal proceedings - https://www.planetf1.com/news/felipe-massa-legal-proceedings-2008-title/ This is the official news source, which includes a comment from Ecclestone saying he doesn't remember the interview :lol: : https://www.reuters.com/sports/motor-sports/motor-raci...

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1 Verstappen 2 Alonso 3 Albon 4 Hamilton 5 Piastri 6 Norris 7 Sainz 8 Leclerc 9 Perez 10 Russell 11 Gasly 12 Tsunoda 13 Ocon 14 Hulkenberg 15 Zhou 16 Bottas 17 de Vries 18 Stroll 19 Magnussen 20 Sargeant 21 Ricciardo Ricciardo is only placed last in the list because of his limited number of races.

Beleriand_K

If not, then go back to the 70's rules and allow teams to build their cars around a select few parameters like wheel base and wheel width and let the teams design whatever contraption they feel is the best and quickest, and may the better team win. Well, that did produce some interesting cars in a ...

Beleriand_K

Who will loose their seat this season? My guess is Kevin Magnussen, with Logan Sargeant hanging on the edge, and as a long shot Bottas. Here is why: By the end of last season my beloved spreadsheet came up with a result as it would have been, if all drivers had shared the same car on the same track...

Beleriand_K

How is this close? Have you looked at the stats you posted? It was 11-1 before this weekend in qualifying. 8-3 in races. 60-27 in points? Which is the close part that means you can't work out whose the faster driver? Yes, Norris is clearly ahead in all scores, but only by small margins when it come...

Beleriand_K

Is Lando Norris or Oscar Piasti the fastest driver for McLaren? I quite honestly haven't got a clue. Being a rookie Piastri have performed exceptionally well compared with his more experienced teammate. It looks like Piastri have hit the ground running and almost was able to keep up with Norris from...

Beleriand_K

Everything we've seen to date from Norris leads me to believe he's extremely good . Piastri has had a great junior career and thus there is no reason to think he is anything but extremely good as well if he does start matching Norris. Isn't been extremely good almost per definition the case for all...

Beleriand_K

Fair enough - my view on Alonso is that in his first career he’d have been more comfortably ahead of Ocon, hence the 1.5. I also think he’s being flattered by Stroll. Regarding Alonso it should be remembered, that he doesn't care about his finishing position if it's not about a win. Or at least a p...

Beleriand_K

I voted "Harsh but fair" even though fairness doesn't really have a place in this multi million dollar sport. de Vries were given the chance a lot of people felt he deserved, but also didn't think he would ever get. He got it, but wasn't able to capitalize on it. Marko said de Vries had so much expe...

Beleriand_K

2026 engine discussions are more and more sounding like 'wishful merc news' similar to their car development news/comments since last year. Lots of hopes and than nothing but broken dreams. Everyone ignores Ferrari's top guy's comments mostly agreeing with RB, but jumps on bogus rumors like RB behi...

Beleriand_K

I don't think Leclerc is toxic at all but he gives the impression of a man who has washed his hands of his current situation and just wants to get through it without taking any blame. His current MO seems to be to do whatever Ferrari want him to do and then get passive aggressive when it doesn't wo...

Beleriand_K

So it's been said Red Bull are keen to either get Leclerc or Norris within the team in '25 or '26 as they feel both of these drivers would add a new dynamic to the team. This also implies max to max, Checo will be with Red Bull till the end of '24 season. Source? Prompted by your post... https://ww...

Beleriand_K

So it's been said Red Bull are keen to either get Leclerc or Norris within the team in '25 or '26 as they feel both of these drivers would add a new dynamic to the team. This also implies max to max, Checo will be with Red Bull till the end of '24 season. Source? Prompted by your post... https://ww...

Beleriand_K

Oh, I have never heard this trivia before, is that included in Brawn's book? I know that Jos complained in recent years that he was sure that MSC was somehow cheating as Jos had beat him at gokarts when they were younger, ergo he is a better driver ( x( ) and MSC is definitely cheating, but never h...

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