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- Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:15 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.
- Replies: 571
- Views: 32639
Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Fillipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.
2008 and 2021 are not comparable incidents at all. One involves an error made by an official (which, let's not forget, the team had every opportunity to contest but chose not to, as they perhaps rightly guessed they had no chance of winning that one) whereas the other involves a proven case of chea...
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:56 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.
- Replies: 571
- Views: 32639
Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Fillipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.
The thing with precedent is, that there is a first for everything. I did defend Masi, and continue to do so. But I disagree with many that resolving 2008 opens the door to "resolving" 2021, for the simple reason that the regulations allowed what Masi did. Whether Ecclestone was correct about the an...
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:13 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.
- Replies: 571
- Views: 32639
Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Fillipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.
2008 and 2021 are not comparable incidents at all. One involves an error made by an official (which, let's not forget, the team had every opportunity to contest but chose not to, as they perhaps rightly guessed they had no chance of winning that one) whereas the other involves a proven case of chea...
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:36 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: F1 Is to be Sued.
- Replies: 66
- Views: 4605
Re: F1 Is to be Sued.
Fourth point: the ticket allows entry to the event space (tick), the catering area (tick) and view of the track (tick). I am not saying this is how it should be, but this is how any organiser protects itself against potential legal challenges. Read the details if you can bear to spend the time: htt...
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:09 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Worst Vice-Champion?
- Replies: 53
- Views: 5976
Re: Worst Vice-Champion?
Look at the bit I put in bold. They were far from friends by 2016. I also don't think Hamilton has been the least graceful runner-up in defeat we've ever had. Schumacher, Senna and Max never pretended to be friends. They also rarely met each other - especially Verstappen the other two. ;) Guess who...
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:29 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: F1 Is to be Sued.
- Replies: 66
- Views: 4605
Re: F1 Is to be Sued.
Fourth point: the ticket allows entry to the event space (tick), the catering area (tick) and view of the track (tick). I am not saying this is how it should be, but this is how any organiser protects itself against potential legal challenges. Read the details if you can bear to spend the time: htt...
- Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:19 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Brawn F1 Series
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1951
- Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:04 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Brawn F1 Series
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1951
- Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:55 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Brawn F1 Series
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1951
Re: Brawn F1 Series
This is the way!
- Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:30 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Kanaan/Senna. V12
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2025
Re: Kanaan/Senna. V12
Nice find!
- Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:22 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Worst Vice-Champion?
- Replies: 53
- Views: 5976
Re: Worst Vice-Champion?
Erm.... You might want to check that one. Lewis recently felt the need to describe him as someone who only won one WDC, inferring some status difference. I could elaborate but suffice to say that a true champion is graceful in defeat. Look at the bit I put in bold. They were far from friends by 201...
- Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:33 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: F1 Is to be Sued.
- Replies: 66
- Views: 4605
Re: F1 Is to be Sued.
I'm pretty sure that they have warnings about these things, it's not the first time that they get an issue and the show gets cancelled. I don't see why the spectators had to be removed though, just let them stay there, FP2 was going to happen anyway, albeit a bit later. What would be the issue of le...
- Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:04 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
In terms of groups of drivers I think you have the GOAT contenders - Fangio, Clark, Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton Then you have the next group which are drivers who are definitely all time greats but probably fall short of the GOAT conversation for one reason or another - Ascari, Stewart, Lauda, Pros...
- Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:35 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Unreachable
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1487
Re: Unreachable
Time loop? Maybe your flux capacitor is broken...
- Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:26 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: 2023 Pick 10 Competition
- Replies: 745
- Views: 54198
Re: 2023 Pick 10 Competition
Ok, I'll start.
Las Vegas Grand Prix:
1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Leclerc
4. Perez
5. Alonso
6. Hamilton
7. Sainz
8. Piastri
9. Russell
10. Ricciardo
Las Vegas Grand Prix:
1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Leclerc
4. Perez
5. Alonso
6. Hamilton
7. Sainz
8. Piastri
9. Russell
10. Ricciardo
- Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:08 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
- Topic: 2023 Pick 10 Competition
- Replies: 745
- Views: 54198
Re: 2023 Pick 10 Competition
I think he means that Horner pic... It is banned in the forum, so he really wants to win!
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:04 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
I remember that video from a while back. My own experience in karting offers a few different answers (unsurprisingly, since the effect of weight is no doubt different depending on equipment and track): In electric indoor karting, where theoretically the effect of weight is low because of the electr...
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:00 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
- Replies: 179
- Views: 6172
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
Farina didn’t beat Fangio once on merit in 1950, Fangio won every race he actually finished and still lost the title. I was reading about his title year, he was racing Fangio on merit that year. On some races that Fangio retired, Farina had overtaken him fair and square on track. Farina had his own...
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:55 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
- Replies: 179
- Views: 6172
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
Farina didn’t beat Fangio once on merit in 1950, Fangio won every race he actually finished and still lost the title. On another note I also wonder why Ascari is not rated as highly as Fangio when discussing drivers back in the day. Ascari was certainly an amazing driver with 13 wins in 28 races. B...
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:55 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
- Replies: 179
- Views: 6172
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
Farina didn’t beat Fangio once on merit in 1950, Fangio won every race he actually finished and still lost the title. I was reading about his title year, he was racing Fangio on merit that year. On some races that Fangio retired, Farina had overtaken him fair and square on track. Farina had his own...
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:42 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
That's a very nice and detailed explanation - love these well-thought out contributions to the thread (instead of simple emojis :lol: or sniping as some are wont to do) :thumbup: Unsurprisingly I haven't seen any post counter any of the arguments; only tangential comments which don't address the to...
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:40 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
That you are merely guessing, anyway are we looking to argue that Prost was not several Kgs lighter than Senna? Mansell being significantly heavier than Senna was mostly down to him and not to anything beyond his control. We are all guessing to some extent, but so far I have been the only one here ...
- Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:07 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
I've just shown a disparity with Mansell only being 1 inch taller than Senna but also being much heavier. Yes, what does that prove? That you are merely guessing, anyway are we looking to argue that Prost was not several Kgs lighter than Senna? Mansell being significantly heavier than Senna was mos...
- Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:41 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024
- Replies: 22
- Views: 1742
Re: 2024
I think F1 would benefit greatly from a championship fight between McLaren and Ferrari next season. It's time to add a few new main characters. Agreed, would be great to see them in the mix; but I have next to no faith in Ferrari. Agreed. If they could get over the tyre degradation they would be ri...
- Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:09 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
- Replies: 179
- Views: 6172
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
Farina didn’t beat Fangio once on merit in 1950, Fangio won every race he actually finished and still lost the title. I was reading about his title year, he was racing Fangio on merit that year. On some races that Fangio retired, Farina had overtaken him fair and square on track. Farina had his own...
- Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:32 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024
- Replies: 22
- Views: 1742
Re: 2024
I think F1 would benefit greatly from a championship fight between McLaren and Ferrari next season. It's time to add a few new main characters. Agreed, would be great to see them in the mix; but I have next to no faith in Ferrari. Agreed. If they could get over the tyre degradation they would be ri...
- Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:00 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Question for mods. Las Vegas GP cancelled due to industrial action???
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1173
Re: Question for mods. Las Vegas GP cancelled due to industrial action???
- Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:50 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Question for mods. Las Vegas GP cancelled due to industrial action???
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1173
- Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:26 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Question for mods. Las Vegas GP cancelled due to industrial action???
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1173
Re: Question for mods. Las Vegas GP cancelled due to industrial action???
To be fair. I've also just seen an article on gpfans who have the same story. https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/1007465/las-vegas-grand-prix-f1-hospitality-workers-strike/ A Google search also brings up the the following results. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:15 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
Re: basketball - I am genuinely confused why you are accusing me of moving the goalposts. Webb was a talented player, sure, but he was not considered on the same level as Michael Jordan by anyone. MJ was brought up by mikeyg123 to which I responded, to which you responded with the example of Webb. ...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
My example with that race was in reply to your sentence "all things being equal". It was as equal as you could get, his weight advantage wasn't that critical in that race. And he was 15th as he was shunted by Senna and De Angelis, not because he was slow. Basketball example was clear, don't shift t...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:48 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
You have one example of Prost against a rookie Senna to prove the argument that it wasn't a weight advantage? In a race won by a then unknown rookie driver called Senna? In a race where he was merely 2 tenths ahead of Reutemann over a 2+ min lap and ended up finishing 15th. Sorry but that race is n...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
It counters the false equivalence you made between basketball and motorsports; if you had almost every child from a young age being able to competitively and regularly take part in motorsport (the way they do with basketball in the US), you can pretty much guarantee that the top athletes will almos...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:58 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
Firstly, it is not as easy to quantify the advantages in basketball as it is in motorsport. Secondly, basketball has a much lower barrier to entry as compared to motorsport; if motorsport were as accessible as basketball and the rules were the same as they were, I will bet my house that the competi...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:29 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
If it becomes a huge competitive advantage then sure we do; take boxing as an example. Most age-group based competitions also exist to negate the obvious advantage physical development provides. Prost is imo one of the weakest multiple WDCs out there - the rules gave him at least a 3 tenths advanta...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:16 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
I never really understanding detracting a drivers standing because of a weight advantage. We don't do that with any other physical advantage in any other sport. If it becomes a huge competitive advantage then sure we do; take boxing as an example. Most age-group based competitions also exist to neg...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:54 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2023 Brazilian Grand Prix FP & Qualy/Sprint Thread
- Replies: 138
- Views: 5076
Re: 2023 Brazilian Grand Prix FP & Qualy/Sprint Thread
So not the Red Bull but definitely the Mercedes but lets not bring up 2021 again specifically, that year could have been been one of the best years for F1 ever, until it wasn't. I am sorry, I am not following your argument. You mentioned that cars don't get equal unless there are big rule changes. ...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:50 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
I never really understanding detracting a drivers standing because of a weight advantage. We don't do that with any other physical advantage in any other sport. If it becomes a huge competitive advantage then sure we do; take boxing as an example. Most age-group based competitions also exist to neg...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:37 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Alain Prost, and the historical effect of weight in F1
- Replies: 423
- Views: 9938
Re: Who do you rank at the bottom of the list of F1 WDCs?
I never really understanding detracting a drivers standing because of a weight advantage. We don't do that with any other physical advantage in any other sport. In which other sport would it be relevant? If it was not a advantage, why did they change the rules to include driver weight? Would you ha...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:19 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2023 Brazilian Grand Prix FP & Qualy/Sprint Thread
- Replies: 138
- Views: 5076
Re: 2023 Brazilian Grand Prix FP & Qualy/Sprint Thread
I'm assuming he means the changes to the floors; not a new design altogether but nevertheless pretty significant. Yeah, but it wasn't a huge or radical change really. It just hurt the cars with lower rakes So not the Red Bull but definitely the Mercedes but lets not bring up 2021 again specifically...