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TheThirdTenor

Track was dry for all of qualifying (I was there).

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FYI mds, I believe webber qualified ahead of Alonso at spa, but I could be wrong.

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He's an excellent qualifier no doubt, but it shows that his qualifying skills are somewhat taken for granted, whilst for example Alonso's qualifying skills always seem to be questioned. I think the last race is a good example, it seems FA often qualifies worse than he finishes. (Am I wrong here?) T...

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f1diablo wrote:I remember 2004 season, Trulli was performing better than Alonso up until he got sacked.

That's not true.

Alonso was, on the whole, performing better from about France onwards.

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No, top speed is not necessary to do overtakes. We saw that for Vettel to in Spa last year. But it certainly helps and at quite a few races we mostly see DRS-assisted top speed overtakes. As for the downforce, I actually went back to see what I exactly said: It is a car that is usually set up to be...

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if he wants to impress other teams, then he would obbey any team orders.

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And the wing is the only deciding factor for downforce? Come on now. Of course not. But clearly you were referring to "higher downforce" being a detriment to straight line speed, which can only mean you were referring to the wing levels. Unless you think the downforce generated through the floor an...

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And we also agree that Vettel's actions were stupid in Barcelona last year?

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Very much this. It's amazing how people who spend a good amount of their time to F1 don't have the insight as to why the RBR is not a car that wins from the back. It is a car that is usually set up to be as good as possible in single-lap and clear air. Short gears, high downforce, low top speed. Th...

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The car is not being designed by Byrne. He's still working in a consulting role.

Having Byrne involved is no guarantee of success (see the F2012).

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Source?

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Most pundits and experts believe Massa has underperformed hugely since 2010 and that I'm afraid has flattered Alonso big time. If he had a slightly stronger team mate and was still getting the results he's had in recent years then fair enough. But we don't know if he could have done that. The same ...

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Ferrari seem to quickly be turning into Team Raikkonen. He's got all his best boys from Lotus there next year now. Hardly. De Beer and Allison have both worked with Alonso too. Seriously you're like the fish who keeps getting caught on the same hook. Stick to the topic Laura. Don't make it personal...

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Ferrari seem to quickly be turning into Team Raikkonen. He's got all his best boys from Lotus there next year now. It is rumored Allison had a big hand in convincing Ferrari to bring back Raikkonen. It does look like Alonso is being given the shaft. If De Beer improves the car's performance, then i...

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Ferrari seem to quickly be turning into Team Raikkonen. He's got all his best boys from Lotus there next year now. Hardly. De Beer and Allison have both worked with Alonso too. Seriously you're like the fish who keeps getting caught on the same hook. Stick to the topic Laura. Don't make it personal.

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The Ferrari is always up there at the front, always fighting for podiums, big points or even wins & more often than not fighting for the WDC. Only in Alonso's hands. Massa has managed just 8 podiums, 0 wins and 0 pole positions since 2010 in the very same car. You always rate the RBR based on the #...

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Will Ferrari struggle to accommodate the new engine formula of V6 Turbo's? What is their racing or commercial history in creating such engines? Commercial history has little bearing. However, Marmorini is heading up the engine departments and his efforts at Toyota were not exactly impressive. Also....

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Laura23 wrote:Ferrari seem to quickly be turning into Team Raikkonen. He's got all his best boys from Lotus there next year now.

Hardly. De Beer and Allison have both worked with Alonso too.

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Seems to me that Ferrari are lacking stability. They have now been through 4 different technical directors since Brawn left, and also been through 3 different chief aerodynamicists since Iley left.

We shall see.

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The Ferrari is always up there at the front, always fighting for podiums, big points or even wins & more often than not fighting for the WDC. Only in Alonso's hands. Massa has managed just 8 podiums, 0 wins and 0 pole positions since 2010 in the very same car. You always rate the RBR based on the #...

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The Ferrari is always up there at the front, always fighting for podiums, big points or even wins & more often than not fighting for the WDC. Only in Alonso's hands. Massa has managed just 8 podiums, 0 wins and 0 pole positions since 2010 in the very same car. Ok....... what does that stat tell us?...

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F310 and F150 Italia were top 3 cars, but i doubt many Ferrari fans will look back on them as "great" cars.

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
The Ferrari is always up there at the front, always fighting for podiums, big points or even wins & more often than not fighting for the WDC.

Only in Alonso's hands. Massa has managed just 8 podiums, 0 wins and 0 pole positions since 2010 in the very same car.

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I imagine LDM was on his knees, begging for forgiveness from Kimi the messiah.

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Statistics need context, especially in F1, where a driver's achievements is heavily influenced by the car he drives. Statistics don't give a damn about such things as "context". They don't need it. It is same for everyone. Don't think that stats will bother to be partial like we, fans are. "Vettel ...

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Statistics need context, especially in F1, where a driver's achievements is heavily influenced by the car he drives.

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I'm sure Vettel will retire with better stats than Alonso. Whether that means he's a better driver is another debate...

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Tell that to Vettel. He was crying over the radio about the penalty he got in Barcelona. Obviously he didn't recognise that ignoring yellows can have serious consequences.

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He'll have to play number 2 if Alonso ends up being the only one in WDC contention (just as he did in 2008, when he had to support Massa's title bid). And vice versa.

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so Vettel ignoring yellow flags in Barcelona last year was sheer stupidity as well?

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When all else fails, that is Vettel fans' go to line

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Laura23 wrote:
TheThirdTenor wrote:I think it was pretty obvious to anyone what Salo did at Hockenheim and Spa to help Irvine.
The double standards you show astound me at times.

No double standards. You really are desperate to take me down a notch.

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In this case though I think Raikkonen is the smart guy for not getting involved with politics. We all know Alonso likes to use them and it doesn't always work for him. With Raikkonen he's going to try and use politics within the team against a guy who doesn't care about them in the first place. It'...

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If Alonso beats Kimi, how long before the Kimbots will start saying that Alonso had number 1 status from the beginning of the season?

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I think you meant 2003? What Alonso did in 2003 was complete stupidity. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O So crashing against a loose wheel he found in the middle of the straight, just after a corner, is his fault and complete stupidity.... It´s absolutely amazing how you mind works when thinking about...

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TBH i didn't really agree completely with any of the options.

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So half the voters think Alonso could have done/be doing a little more. Interesting. Bad cars don't fight for championships. Ferrari have produced one mediocre car since 2009 and that was 2011. The 2010 and 2012 models were very good cars. "Good", "bad" or "mediocre" are note precise definitions. T...

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I think it was pretty obvious to anyone what Salo did at Hockenheim and Spa to help Irvine.

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Perhaps you want to address the points i made rather than resorting to needless sarcasm?

Thanks

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With perhaps the exception of Monaco, the car could have and probably should have won all 6 of those races. So the car can have race winning performance over a prolonged period, and 6 wins in a row by most standards is enough to win a title or is enough to be termed an adequate car. People often li...

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