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Well, Vettel's win this weekend was fortunate. What do you expect people to say? I don't think you can blame the British media. Vettel tends to get less appreciation from within the paddock generally. Personally I rate them very closely with Hamilton having a slight edge. That's not to say a good c...

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Glad to see Kimi perform and get the first pitstop, Ferrari tactics worked out, it doesn't happen very often.
Merc will probably not cruise so much from now on..

To me Alonso and Ricciardo, IMO Red Bull looks very promising with tension and 2 very good drivers.

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All of this driver A in season B beat driver C is all an assumption that nothing changes which is IMO wrong. Kimi and Ferrari where the fastest in the second half off 2007. In 2008 none of them had a very good season IMO. Some of these drivers have changed teams multiple Times. Why is it so hard to...

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Another myth, the McLaren of 2007 and 2008 Was voted Car of the year and even the driver Said it Was the best car. Why this urge to talk down Lewis cars? That's because back then it was assumed that both Kimi and Massa were top line drivers, it's also strange considering that Ferrari won the most r...

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Another myth, the McLaren of 2007 and 2008 Was voted Car of the year and even the driver Said it Was the best car. Why this urge to talk down Lewis cars? That's because back then it was assumed that both Kimi and Massa were top line drivers, it's also strange considering that Ferrari won the most r...

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All of this driver A in season B beat driver C is all an assumption that nothing changes which is IMO wrong. Kimi and Ferrari where the fastest in the second half off 2007. In 2008 none of them had a very good season IMO. Some of these drivers have changed teams multiple Times. Why is it so hard to ...

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In 2007 McLaren Threw away a Huge lead in the second half and Was outperformed by Kimi in the end, in 2008 I wouldn’t say that neither McLaren nor Ferrari where smoothe operating. It’s still so that McLaren Was voted the car of the year.

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Another myth, the McLaren of 2007 and 2008 Was voted Car of the year and even the driver Said it Was the best car. Why this urge to talk down Lewis cars?

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By all facts there is Merc Was the car to have in 2017.

To claim that Vettel is unproven is ridiculous by now.

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I don't understand your last sentence that just confirms what I said, and let's just get things straight that last year was not a dominant car. By what measure? Reliability? Poles? Wins? Off course it was dominant, not like earlier but I'll bet there isn't a driver who would have choosen any other ...

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I don't understand your last sentence that just confirms what I said, and let's just get things straight that last year was not a dominant car. By what measure? Reliability? Poles? Wins? Off course it was dominant, not like earlier but I'll bet there isn't a driver who would have choosen any other ...

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Haas would have been cool, something new and fresh

1. Haas
2. Williams
4. Toro Rosso
5. Renault
6. Force India
7. Sauber
8. Ferrari
9. Red Bull
10. Mercedes

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Anyway my point being would a better teammate for Hamilton make everything alright, I'm guessing probably not? Well if Vettel or Alonso or even Max would be in the second Merc I think that could secure my attention yes. Well the Ferrari being dominant scenario isn't any better. Imagine if Ferrari a...

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If all the pre season guessing comes true and once again Merc have a huge PU advantage it's not a difficult question, Vettel would need a miracle to split the Merc drivers once again and try to grab a win or two. Very impressed by the german perfectionists putting the Merc together, but sorry IMO it...

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Don't see it much different then the last 4 years, probably no active suspension or anything else to have removed from Merc to even it out in the beginning as in 2017

1. Merc

2. Red Bull/Ferrari
4. Renault
5. Toro Rosso
6. Haas
7. Force India
8. McLaren
9. Williams
10. Sauber

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Ferrari hadn’t exploited oil burning to the extent Mercedes were able to in 2017 so therefore finally be able to match the grunt, hopefully Renault will do the same. So, with the best chassi and best drivers Red Bull will dominate again with Ferrari a close second. Mercedes finally after four years ...

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Drivers; Alonso and Verstappen, no comments needed
Principal; Horner
Colors; Black on black
Engine; Mercedes
Engineer; Smedley

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Going on this title thread, I agree that Hamilton only wants to drive for 2 more seasons, but who knows with Lewis. Believe he's got another title in the bag, hoping more fans will warm up to him over this period.. Seems to me, F1 viewers have split opions of him, despite his genuine honesty on tra...

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No he didn't throw a tantrum but i'm intrigued what you mean about him having problems? I think he was very open that after dominating the regulations and winning 4 titles in a row he didn't adjust to the change in regulations. <https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/116015/vettel-says-2014-car-doesnt-s...

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You mean when they both had the same car, Ric was winning a few races and essentially best of the rest behind Merc.. while Vettel threw a tantrum and quit RBR. I find comments like this ridiculous and short sighted. Ric proved him self against Vettel - if his fans like it or not. We will never know...

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pokerman wrote: He went off the track once avoiding Alonso's car which had brake tested him.

He locked up his brakes and lost control after a bad start where he fell to 4:th place

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2007-2011 Hamilton isn't much different to 2011-2017 Hamilton in my book. Its more circumstantial. Look at his first year in 2007, he had no incidents and made 1 driver error all year under a special scenario where the team left him out on inters that had worn down to the canvas something that hasn...

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mikeyg123 wrote:Schumacher didn't have anything to mach Hamilton in this department TBF. And Hamilton only had a dominant car for half this period. He didn't crash in the years when he didn't either.

No he never had such cars that's true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Wcch5nR-g

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Indeed and Rosberg never actually lost a title to Hamilton based on having more bad luck. With the double points in 2015 that is a highly arguable claim, switch the "bad luck" and Rosberg has 2 titles. Hamilton had more bad luck than Rosberg in 2015. I agree if Hamilton had endured even worse luck ...

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But no one has had such cars that he has had so it's hard to compare with a driver fighting in the midfield. It helps for sure but he also drives in the age of grid penalties so he actually has to do a fair bit of racing through the pack. Drivers of yesteryear never or at least very rarely started ...

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But no one has had such cars that he has had so it's hard to compare with a driver fighting in the midfield.

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pokerman wrote: Indeed and Rosberg never actually lost a title to Hamilton based on having more bad luck.

With the double points in 2015 that is a highly arguable claim, switch the "bad luck" and Rosberg has 2 titles.

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It's bad luck. He had the same package as someone else who didn't retire . I think it's pretty fair to call that unlucky in that instance. I think even if you say Hamilton is fortune to have the best car at the start of the race you have to accept it's unfortunate when that breaks down and is there...

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Interesting that you mention the year 2017 in the same sentence to Hamilton having the best material in the history of the sport and perhaps not unsurprising? Most driver can only dream off a car capable off a title challenge, your driver have had around eight? yes, but to be fair when talking abou...

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Interesting that you mention the year 2017 in the same sentence to Hamilton having the best material in the history of the sport and perhaps not unsurprising? Most driver can only dream off a car capable off a title challenge, your driver have had around eight? yes, but to be fair when talking abou...

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pokerman wrote:
Interesting that you mention the year 2017 in the same sentence to Hamilton having the best material in the history of the sport and perhaps not unsurprising?

Most driver can only dream off a car capable off a title challenge, your driver have had around eight?

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As a hamilton fan every year is a roller coaster of emotion, I cant remember any other driver where i've felt as anxious at every single race start and every lap afterwards. I have watched so many races where he's just going round and all of a sudden his engine goes, or his tyre deflates. The guy i...

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Are we talking about the driver who took 4 back to back WDC in a lot less dominant car than the Merc of 2014 - 2017?

Good point : ) It's christmans time for wishes..

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I'd be more interested in how much easier it is to drive a Merc in 2017 then a Sauber as an example?

To judge different regulations is probably impossible, but a belive that it gets easier and easier is perhaps a probability?

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Have to agree with the huge majority here that the Mercedes was simply to fast this year also.

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Monza, Montreal, Baku and Silverstone are all low downforce circuits and Ferrari wasn’t near Mercedes in any of them. Ultimately, it’s unlikely that a car that takes pole in 15 out of 20 races and is more reliable than its opponent is somehow inferior or even equal. I think that Vettel/Ferrari left...

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This Merc 4 year domination is lowering the income of the F1 owners, off course it's a conflict of interest.

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It's a product of both. There's a reason to why Red Bull feel disadvantaged by their less powerful engine. Of course it is, the point people are making is you have no idea how much of both in any single instance. How many times did we see Manor top the speed charts? How often did we see Williams hi...

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Just like Hamilton can hardly blame the team for Bahrain/Russia/Monaco/Brazil, but he's won the WDC regardless because of better reliability and a better car in qualifying. And because he has made less mistakes. You tend to do that when you have a much faster car. Agreed but completely irrelevant i...

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mikeyg123 wrote:
KingVoid wrote:Just like Hamilton can hardly blame the team for Bahrain/Russia/Monaco/Brazil, but he's won the WDC regardless because of better reliability and a better car in qualifying.
And because he has made less mistakes.

You tend to do that when you have a much faster car.

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