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- Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:48 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
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Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
That Massa used to be quick over one lap does not mean very much. See the discussion around Leclerc why that is a whole lot less important than you make it out to be. Also, weren't the 2008 regulations that qualifying was with fuel loads for the first stint? You are arguing about races that you ope...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:40 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
What better way to show the team they were getting rid of a world champion? He was already out qualifying Massa before he knew his fate, I daresay if Massa had not got injured it would have been Massa that got let go, that would have been far cheaper for Ferrari. No, from memory, Montezemolo said a...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:38 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
How does those comments on drivers relate to car quality? How can you know the car quality if you don't know the level of the drivers, you look to dismiss Kovalainen as a total scrub with the McLaren being far better than we might imagine. I'm not looking to dismiss Heikki at all; I genuinely wonde...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:49 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 734
- Views: 26279
Re: Silly Season 2025
If true it would indeed be very odd. he doesn’t want to get his butt kicked by his teammate in his last year in F1. not so odd to me I don't imagine him wanting that less than he wants an opportunity to bag a couple of wins after a decade. Nobody will think badly of a 44 year old Alonso getting bea...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:37 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
True, but Massa often achieved better finishing positions. My impression at the time was that the car's potential limited both drivers, but Räikkönen more so, before team attention switched to the driver who was leaving the team. Which is how the performance of the two drivers ebbed and flowed duri...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:32 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Did the Ferrari really turn out to be that much better than the McLaren, or did Heikki Kovalainen fail to bring sufficient points in to win the constructors' championship? The main difference carwise that I recall, is the Ferrari being very poor in the rain. Kovalainen was good enough to beat Fisic...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:15 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
I am happy to see you agree that Hamilton had a relative poor season in 2008 at least. Yes he got involved in to many incidents, it doesn't change all the pole positions that Massa had. That Massa used to be quick over one lap does not mean very much. See the discussion around Leclerc why that is a...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:06 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
I am happy to see you agree that Hamilton had a relative poor season in 2008 at least. Yes he got involved in to many incidents, it doesn't change all the pole positions that Massa had. That Massa used to be quick over one lap does not mean very much. See the discussion around Leclerc why that is a...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:53 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 89
- Views: 2663
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
No, I would not object him to retiring at all. Why would you write that? I would object to Hamilton "phoning it in" for the remainder of the 2024 season unless he had a sniff of a podium. Russell did not have a great race either, but better than Hamilton. I think that is hard to argue against. It w...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:50 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 89
- Views: 2663
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
No, I would not object him to retiring at all. Why would you write that? I would object to Hamilton "phoning it in" for the remainder of the 2024 season unless he had a sniff of a podium. Russell did not have a great race either, but better than Hamilton. I think that is hard to argue against. It w...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:44 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
- Replies: 1530
- Views: 165175
Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Rumour: Renault is considering selling the Alpine team with the condition that the new owner/team uses Renault as their engine supplier till 2029. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alpine-sale-rumours-emerge-amid-key-renault-demand/10597127/ I guess that rules out Andretti then. When was Cadillac/...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:41 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 734
- Views: 26279
Re: Silly Season 2025
With Nando now confirmed, next key piece of jigsaw is Max. Assuming he confirms at RBR , that's Toto's No 1 choice gone and it's musical chair time. Also guessing that Stroll Snr will be sending Newey a pic of an open cheque-book..... With Alonso not waiting I would say it's odds on that Verstappen...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:39 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 734
- Views: 26279
Re: Silly Season 2025
Interesting from AMUS that Alonso has been offered a seat at Red Bull but seemingly Alonso is only interested if Verstappen has left the team, strange that Alonso would have less confidence of going up against Verstappen then Hamilton did. https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/f1-transfermar...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:35 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 734
- Views: 26279
Re: Silly Season 2025
Interesting from AMUS that Alonso has been offered a seat at Red Bull but seemingly Alonso is only interested if Verstappen has left the team, strange that Alonso would have less confidence of going up against Verstappen then Hamilton did. https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/f1-transfermar...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:39 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 734
- Views: 26279
Re: Silly Season 2025
Interesting from AMUS that Alonso has been offered a seat at Red Bull but seemingly Alonso is only interested if Verstappen has left the team, strange that Alonso would have less confidence of going up against Verstappen then Hamilton did. https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/f1-transfermark...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:33 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
How does those comments on drivers relate to car quality? :lol: Glad you are amused, but what is it exactly that you find so funny? I guess because it needs explaining what perhaps is obvious to most, I've explained it myself. The funny part actually, is that he doesn't need it explaining at all. F...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:37 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 89
- Views: 2663
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
No, I would not object him to retiring at all. Why would you write that? I would object to Hamilton "phoning it in" for the remainder of the 2024 season unless he had a sniff of a podium. Russell did not have a great race either, but better than Hamilton. I think that is hard to argue against. It w...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:17 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Did the Ferrari really turn out to be that much better than the McLaren, or did Heikki Kovalainen fail to bring sufficient points in to win the constructors' championship? The main difference carwise that I recall, is the Ferrari being very poor in the rain. Kovalainen was good enough to beat Fisic...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:09 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
I'm not sure how we've got here but I'd certainly say that being the last WDC for McLaren in an inferior car (which it unquestionably was) adds to Hamilton's legacy. Did the Ferrari really turn out to be that much better than the McLaren, or did Heikki Kovalainen fail to bring sufficient points in ...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:04 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Kimi's strong season in 2009 only started after Massa's accident. Kimi was on the way out, and had known for more than a year already that he was on the way out. Which makes his strong showing from Belgium onwards all the more impressive and puzzling. He was out qualifying Massa before his accident...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:00 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
- Replies: 1530
- Views: 165175
Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Rumour: Renault is considering selling the Alpine team with the condition that the new owner/team uses Renault as their engine supplier till 2029. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alpine-sale-rumours-emerge-amid-key-renault-demand/10597127/ I guess that rules out Andretti then. Better not race th...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:11 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
- Replies: 1530
- Views: 165175
Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
I guess that rules out Andretti then.UnlikeUday wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:36 pmRumour:
Renault is considering selling the Alpine team with the condition that the new owner/team uses Renault as their engine supplier till 2029.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alpi ... /10597127/
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:05 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 89
- Views: 2663
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Russell was on the same tyres, was he not? When you write "little stomach" that is the point that people object to, and rightly so. You would object to Hamilton retiring from the sport if all he could find himself in was the 4th/5th fastest car? Russell was on the same wrong tyres that had him fini...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:01 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
I'm not sure how we've got here but I'd certainly say that being the last WDC for McLaren in an inferior car (which it unquestionably was) adds to Hamilton's legacy. Did the Ferrari really turn out to be that much better than the McLaren, or did Heikki Kovalainen fail to bring sufficient points in ...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:43 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Wouldn't you say that Hamilton had a relative poor season in 2008? Similar to 2007 compared to Ferrari and no teammate competition. It has been speculated that Räikkönen took his foot off the gas after securing his WDC in 2007. As you've already been told Kimi started the 2008 season strongly but t...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:43 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Yes, because both Hamilton and Räikkönen had relatively poor seasons. In hindsight, things were not going to get any better for Räikkönen, but very few would have predicted that. See you can just invent whatever you want, Massa having the most pole positions is because Hamilton and Kimi under perfo...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:42 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 98
- Views: 2715
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
There are all kinds of patterns to observe, why are we not passing similar comment about Leclerc? Has Leclerc said he knows exactly what Ferrari needs to do to solve their problems? Bottom line is this is similar to what Hamilton said this time last year. They followed his direction and are now fur...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:40 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 98
- Views: 2715
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
What train? Is sharing observations (very valid imo) now considered jumping on some train? And "back" on it? Wow, some people have serious issues with discussion forums it seems. :uhoh: There are all kinds of patterns to observe, why are we not passing similar comment about Leclerc? Leclerc has com...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:38 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 98
- Views: 2715
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
What train? Is sharing observations (very valid imo) now considered jumping on some train? And "back" on it? Wow, some people have serious issues with discussion forums it seems. :uhoh: There are all kinds of patterns to observe, why are we not passing similar comment about Leclerc? Leclerc has com...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:36 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 98
- Views: 2715
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
The problem Mercedes have is that there simulation facilities (wind tunnel) etc isn't correlating to real life. It's not that their engineers have suddenly become bad it's that what the simulation tells them works doesn't work in real life. But lets not forget they still have the 4th fastest car. T...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:08 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 89
- Views: 2663
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
If Hamilton doesn't want to be in the car, perhaps he should make way for someone who does. This is the kind of excuse that has been going around this forum before about a perceived loss of competitiveness. That's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about him giving Russell a free pass who was ...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:05 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 89
- Views: 2663
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
If Hamilton doesn't want to be in the car, perhaps he should make way for someone who does. This is the kind of excuse that has been going around this forum before about a perceived loss of competitiveness. That's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about him giving Russell a free pass who was ...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:52 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Wouldn't you say that Hamilton had a relative poor season in 2008? Similar to 2007 compared to Ferrari and no teammate competition. It has been speculated that Räikkönen took his foot off the gas after securing his WDC in 2007. As you've already been told Kimi started the 2008 season strongly but t...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:39 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 89
- Views: 2663
Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Well we need to see what happens going forward don't we. I'd certainly say Hamilton did not look like peak Hamilton today. He claimed damage to his car when he let Russell go passed but that being said he seemed to have little fight like we saw from Russell for all of 7th place. He certainly has li...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:23 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
- Replies: 244
- Views: 37440
Re: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
I'm counting Verstappen's seat as the best. You could say joint best if you wanted. Many of the drivers you list weren't blocking one of only two seats that offer a viable championship chance year after year. The only comparison is Bottas who also got 5 seasons. If you go back far enough you'll fin...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:21 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
- Replies: 244
- Views: 37440
Re: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
Why second best seat; the Redbull is the outright best seat at the moment. This is not the first time we are seeing this though; I remember the years of suffering through Barrichello/Kovalainen/Massa/Webber/Bottas when it was clear they had no chance of ever competing for the title against their do...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:18 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
- Replies: 244
- Views: 37440
Re: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
I don't know whether RB thinks like that - but if they did it would be a massive disapointment. Everyone and her daughter would have finished second. But the one time it counted - when Verstappen's car failed - he was nowhere. Seriously, it would be a travesty for the competitiveness of F1, if an o...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:13 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
- Replies: 244
- Views: 37440
Re: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
I hope you're wrong. He's got three 2nd places in 4 races which is what is the most expected from him. On top of this, he's not going to mess around with going another setup route like last year. He getting 2nd in Japan is a big shout out from him for a contract extension. Sainz has to look at 2026...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Yes, because both Hamilton and Räikkönen had relatively poor seasons. In hindsight, things were not going to get any better for Räikkönen, but very few would have predicted that. See you can just invent whatever you want, Massa having the most pole positions is because Hamilton and Kimi under perfo...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:00 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 707
- Views: 44103
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Yes, if those drivers would drive for many teams. The trouble is that few top drivers do. They have teammates who may do however. Yes, but that is quite meaningless in the context of the car itself, doesn't it? For instance, we hear Hamilton complain to no end about the current generation of Merced...