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by mikeyg123
Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:53 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

In 1995 Barrichello got overlooked by Ferrari when they signed his teammate Eddie Irvine, I'm not sure what we are looking to invent. Are we now saying that Irvine was better than Barrichello? Well, that was something I never expected to see on this forum. Do you disagree that Ferrari hired Irvine ...
by mikeyg123
Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:05 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 8632

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

No, I don't think a driver should take his eyes off the track for more than a split second when closely fighting and trying to overtake another driver. Perhaps this demonstrates a limitation in Russell's armour and it further fuels doubts about his ability overall. They make numerous switch changes...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 8632

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

I thought this comment from Russell was very telling. Caught napping in other words. "Obviously a bit of a strange situation that happened last week. Totally caught by surprise. I was actually looking at the steering wheel, making a switch change in the straight, which, you know, we all do across t...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:10 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Bottas was comprehensively beating Massa before he joined Mercedes. Whom did Barrichello beat that was so much more impressive? Just checked on Wikipedia (it is a very long time ago), Barrichello beat all of his teammates from his debut in 1994 to his switch to Ferrari at the back end of 1999. Now ...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:43 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Ofcourse, but it's about as good as you're going to get. Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas sometimes matching and even outperforming Hamilton is something that potentially weighs ag...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

3 races makes a season now plus Hamilton would make mincemeat out of Perez. That is not what I meant of course. Which is why I wrote 2025 and 2056. Hamilton may still surprise us this year, but it looks like far less likely than what could expected based on the pre-season comments that either he or...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:29 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 8632

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

Why do you always hit me with some laborious admin work just to reveal that it was actually 100m before the braking zone not 200m as if it makes any difference to the point about braking unpredictably early or excessively for a high speed corner It may be something else in the report Fiki is referr...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:57 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 8632

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

Indeed, caught napping by someone slowing massively 200m before the normal braking zone . Maybe we will see someone catch a closely following driver napping slowing down to 4th gear on the entry to copse at Silverstone I take it you didn't bother to read the stewards' report on the matter? Why do y...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:55 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 89
Views: 2548

Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

What was this about mikey? I completely missed it x( From the start of the season Sauber have basically not been able to do pitstops properly. They have a new wheel gun design that keeps cross threading wheel nuts. For some reason this is unfixable. At the moment it's barely worth Sauber doing race...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:08 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 89
Views: 2548

Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

RE the Sauber pitstops.... How on earth can that be allowed to happen. How do you turn up at race 1 not aware of this problem and then how can it take you months to solve something so fundamental. What was this about mikey? I completely missed it x( From the start of the season Sauber have basicall...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:51 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 89
Views: 2548

Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

RE the Sauber pitstops.... How on earth can that be allowed to happen. How do you turn up at race 1 not aware of this problem and then how can it take you months to solve something so fundamental. What was this about mikey? I completely missed it x( From the start of the season Sauber have basicall...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:55 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 89
Views: 2548

Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

RE the Sauber pitstops.... How on earth can that be allowed to happen. How do you turn up at race 1 not aware of this problem and then how can it take you months to solve something so fundamental.
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:31 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 89
Views: 2548

Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

rbirules wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:00 pm
Strider wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:07 pm
Strider wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:43 am
Do we have any news about the rumoured zero-pod updates on the RB?
^^^ bump!
There are updates (new inlets, reshaped inlets, floor upgrade) but it's not a zero-pod design.
It's somewhat of a zero pod concept but not an actual zero pod design.
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:30 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Races Verstappen has lost in the ground effect era Australia 2024 - car failure Singapore 2023 - car nowhere near quick enough Baku 2023 - leading until the safety car gave Perez a free pit stop Jeddah 2023 - quickest in Q1 by half a second but car fails in Q2 Brazil 2022 - car not quick enough as ...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

It's a circular argument anyway. Bottas was closer to Hamilton than Perez is to Verstappen. We don't know if that's due to Bottas doing better than Perez or if it's to Verstappen doing better than Hamilton. I suppose it could be both. Personally I think Bottas skill set makes him more effective in a...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
Replies: 452
Views: 27855

Re: Christian Horner Allegations Thread

Just FYI when a source is cited as "A friend" it's almost always the person themselves.
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 8632

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

It's certainly interesting to see how split the drivers seem to be on this.
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:28 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

A combination of both driver being better and team being better operationally so I don't look to give Verstappen full credit for the percentages provided. You do realize there's a pretty substantial difference between a ~60% winning percentage and a 76-82% winning percentage, correct? Just how much...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:50 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

The 2019 and 2020 seasons are comparable to the 2022 and 2023 seasons but for some reason you don't include all of the 2022 season, including all would make 10 races that he lost. I've no doubt that Verstappen did better but it's very much a black and white comparison you make, Red Bull operational...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:51 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

I think I have emphasized the large amount of off-days of his teammate quite frequently. Him winning vice-wdc in his arguably weakest season is manifest of the previously unseen superiority and dominance of RB. Of course, Verstappen won races when he didn't have the best car. Some of his performanc...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Factored into what? I made clear why I wrote 5 (because it shows the underlying "logic"), you want to downtalk it, okay, but you don't change the overa Factored in to the logic you're applying. If Verstappen can have off days so can everyone else. This means on days where Verstappen's car has looke...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Well, at the same time you defend KV's list hard and attack Poker's ... ;) Your first sentence confirms what I wrote: Assumption: Verstappen cannot be worse than any rival at any given day Conclusion: there must be another reason why he didn't win (car not quick enough, teammate cheated, you name i...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:22 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Still, it follows the same reasoning: wasn't on course to winning = car not quick enough. In the post I commented, everything is judged based on the assumption that Verstappen is always and everywhere fastest. ;) I have seen no evidence that Perez cheated. For it claimed to be a fact, hard evidence...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

5 Plus no evidence that Perez cheated in Monaco plus Baku 2023 Perez was quicker anyway. It is a one-sided view as much as you can take it, tbh. It is literally just 3.... There are 2 others were it's mentioned among other factors which meant he couldn't win the GP anyway. Perez wasn't faster in Ba...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

The underlying logic here seems to be: whenever Verstappen doesn't win, his car was not quick enough. That's the a priori assumption. ;) That's literally just 3 of the 12.... 5 Plus no evidence that Perez cheated in Monaco plus Baku 2023 Perez was quicker anyway. It is a one-sided view as much as y...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Races Verstappen has lost in the ground effect era Australia 2024 - car failure Singapore 2023 - car nowhere near quick enough Baku 2023 - leading until the safety car gave Perez a free pit stop Jeddah 2023 - quickest in Q1 by half a second but car fails in Q2 Brazil 2022 - car not quick enough as ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Races Verstappen has lost in the ground effect era Australia 2024 - car failure Singapore 2023 - car nowhere near quick enough Baku 2023 - leading until the safety car gave Perez a free pit stop Jeddah 2023 - quickest in Q1 by half a second but car fails in Q2 Brazil 2022 - car not quick enough as ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

It's not a mystery. I set out my parameters. I'm taking it from the point where Verstappen had a dominant car. That's from Belgium 2022. Before that his car wasn't dominant and nobody regarded it as such. I'm only looking at 2019 and 2020 for Hamilton for the same reason. He won the championship in...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 8632

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

We know some more things. We know that despite refuting the penalty Aston Martin have not backed up the throttle problem claim. This would be extremely odd if there was indeed one as a throttle problem would be the biggest defence. We know that there was no sign of this throttle problem before the ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

The 2019 and 2020 seasons are comparable to the 2022 and 2023 seasons but for some reason you don't include all of the 2022 season, including all would make 10 races that he lost. I've no doubt that Verstappen did better but it's very much a black and white comparison you make, Red Bull operational...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2025
Replies: 666
Views: 24826

Re: Silly Season 2025

Neither should he if the other options are Sainz and Alonso.
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

The 2019 and 2020 seasons are comparable to the 2022 and 2023 seasons but for some reason you don't include all of the 2022 season, including all would make 10 races that he lost. I've no doubt that Verstappen did better but it's very much a black and white comparison you make, Red Bull operational...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Unlike you JN23 I can't be bothered to read back through this whole thread to check if this has already been mentioned but one thing I will say that Hamilton's legacy will continue beyond his time in the seat, not sure I feel the same will ever be said about Verstappen. I agree that Hamilton is the...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:50 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 8632

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

The fact that it's not on the report somehow proves you're right, surely you have to prove that it really happened, meanwhile it seems somewhat widespread that he was blipping his throttle trying to create a throttle problem as an attempted cover story, it seems that got quickly ditched. The fact t...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 8632

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

It didn't disappear quietly, it's just that we have no indication any technical problems were taken into account, or were investigated by the stewards. What we do know is that none of that made it into their extensive report. It is not sure it was Alonso who was blipping his throttle, that is an as...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:03 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Depends on what you value in a driver. Broadly speaking, you can categorize driver performance in 3 separate scenarios. 1. How they perform in dominant conditions 2. How they perform in equal best car 3. How they perform in an inferior car I also put more emphasis on 2 and 3 than 1, but I think tha...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:57 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Some may think that while others will realise that Red Bull are a far better team and Verstappen has a dominant car with no competition. So the same as Hamilton in 2019 and 2020? Verstappen has had a dominant car since Belgium 2022. That's 34 races. Verstappen has won 28 of them. He's failed to win...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:21 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

There’s a difference between ruining a legacy and weakening a GOAT case, I think they should be separated. Verstappen doing things that Hamilton was never able to do, not even at the height of Mercedes dominance with Bottas as a teammate, won’t rule Hamilton out of the GOAT conversation, but it doe...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:11 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 693
Views: 43386

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Unlike you JN23 I can't be bothered to read back through this whole thread to check if this has already been mentioned but one thing I will say that Hamilton's legacy will continue beyond his time in the seat, not sure I feel the same will ever be said about Verstappen. I agree that Hamilton is the...